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HEADLINE: Despite apology, Sir Clive Lloyd proceeding with libel suit against Guyana Chronicle
CaribbeanCricket.com
Apr 15, 2021, 8:24:34 AM
Former West Indies captain Sir Clive Lloyd is taking the Guyana Chronicle to court, his lawyer Ralph Thorne confirmed Tuesday night.
Lloyd claims that the newspaper attributed to him, disparaging comments made about all-rounder Jason Holder, himself now a former West Indies captain. However, the man who is also known as the 'Big Cat' insists that he did not speak to the reporter employed by the Guyanese media house.
The offending story published on March 13, was headlined ‘Holder has outlived his usefulness in the position, says Lloyd’ over the byline of Rajiv Bisnauth, who has subsequently been suspended. The newspaper has also apologized for their publication of the story.
However, Thorne revealed on the Mason & Guest talk show in Barbados last night that they were proceeding with legal action against the newspaper.
“I am representing Sir Clive Lloyd in association with Guyanese counsel and if the Chronicle or anybody at the Chronicle is hearing let them understand that we are pressing ahead with the case on behalf of one of the great West Indians of the last 100 years,” Ralph Thorne.
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Norm
Apr 15, 2021, 10:29:52 AM
The Chronicle apologized and retracted their story. Lloyd will not win anything.
When it comes to money, Lloyd goes nuts.
Narper
Apr 15, 2021, 10:40:40 AM
In reply to Norm
Sir Big PU-C needs the money
Holder has outlived his usefulness in the position"
Tons of people have said this...If Big PU-C had said this then he would have been correct....for once
Norm
Apr 15, 2021, 11:11:35 AM
In reply to Narper
Lloyd is saying that he never had an interview the Chronicle reporter, veteran Avenesh Ramzan. Ramzan has been a good reporter for over a decade.
We will see where this goes.
Cricket_101
Apr 15, 2021, 11:22:06 AM
In reply to Norm
When it comes to money, Lloyd goes nuts.
After public apology that's the only reason, i can see him suing the media company...
He probably in need of a few greenbacks...
WestDem
Apr 15, 2021, 12:09:18 PM
In reply to Narper
When that India pullout fiasco, I was told by no one but himself that Big Bravo, and Pollard would never wear the Maroon again over the phone by the big Pu-C all thanks to Jaip (RIP) was that a lie too?
Wally-1
Apr 15, 2021, 12:59:28 PM
Your reactions is an indication of the low standards and unprofessionalism of the region.
That is not journalism it is a straight and deliberate lie that people with honor and dignity should abhor, instead you guys are attacking the victim.
I mean what was he thinking, didnt he expect Lloyd to read the article or someone to at least bring it to his attention?
Cricket_101
Apr 15, 2021, 1:06:44 PM
In reply to Wally-1
That is not journalism it is a straight and deliberate lie that people with honor and dignity should abhor, instead you guys are attacking the victim.
After Chronicle publicly acknowledged they were wrong and apologized, do you think suing is the right resolution? In many cases once statements are retracted,a good handshake usually suffices...
Norm
Apr 15, 2021, 1:08:53 PM
In reply to Wally-1
it is a straight and deliberate lie
Lloyd's apparent grievance is not the statement about JHo's captaincy, but that he never said such things to the Chronicle reporter.
instead you guys are attacking the victim.
After the newspaper apologized, retracted the article and fired the veteran reporter?
If Lloyd persists, he will have to prove his case (probably easy) and provide a basis for damages. The latter will be quite interesting, given the actions already taken by the newspaper.
Cameron
Apr 15, 2021, 2:15:53 PM
You cannot un-hear or un-read what has already been said or written. A paper can cynically publish a falsehood and then apologize, knowing that the words, once published cannot truly be recalled. That is why there is such a great burden for responsible media to be scrupulous about the truth. An apology does not wipe out the effect of a libel. A wronged person can, of course, choose to be gracious and withdraw a complaint, but they are not obligated to.
Norm
Apr 15, 2021, 3:23:09 PM
In reply to Cameron
An apology does not wipe out the effect of a libel.
We await Lloyd's claims regarding said "effect".
WestDem
Apr 15, 2021, 4:07:00 PM
In reply to Cameron
Should Sanasie go ahead with his lawsuit against the recent commentary team? They retracted their comments on air numerous times...asking an answer?
Barry
Apr 15, 2021, 4:46:56 PM
An apology does not wipe out the effect of a libel.
Some do not believe in reputations
Kay
Apr 15, 2021, 5:03:54 PM
In reply to Norm
The Chronicle apologized and retracted their story. Lloyd will not win anything.
Have to agree. It's not easy to prove "actual malice" in these cases when there is an apology and retraction of the offending statement.
sudden
Apr 15, 2021, 5:51:12 PM
In reply to Kay
If you injure a man and apologize, does that mean that the matter is ended?
Star
Apr 16, 2021, 7:08:52 AM
In reply to Kay
You are wrong. The harm is already done. An apology does not erase the harm done to a person's goodwill and reputation.
This is not a difficult case at all for Sir Clive to win and most likely will be settled out of court.
Curtis
Apr 16, 2021, 1:48:52 PM
...but did Holder outlive his usefulness as a Captain and can that be proven in court?
He was replaced. Was Lloyd against the move?
Star
Apr 16, 2021, 1:57:04 PM
In reply to Curtis
.but did Holder outlive his usefulness as a Captain and can that be proven in court?
Where is the relevance to the case in point?
Norm
Apr 16, 2021, 2:25:12 PM
In reply to Star
The harm is already done.
What harm?
Chrissy
Apr 16, 2021, 2:54:05 PM
In reply to Cameron
Leff dem.
sudden
Apr 16, 2021, 2:57:39 PM
In reply to Norm
You should stick to engineering if that is what you do
Norm
Apr 16, 2021, 3:11:14 PM
In reply to sudden
You should stick to engineering if that is what you do
Your usual great discussion skills, I see, where the only intelligence you seem to have is your ability to insult.
Since you stepped in, tell me what harm could that have been done? We are all familiar with the circumstances here. Neither Star nor you have produced any response yet.
sudden
Apr 16, 2021, 3:12:34 PM
In reply to Norm
Figure it out
Norm
Apr 16, 2021, 3:15:16 PM
In reply to sudden
Figure it out
Good. You were just blowing hot air.
sudden
Apr 16, 2021, 3:16:01 PM
openning
Apr 16, 2021, 4:56:11 PM
In reply to Norm
We await Lloyd's claims regarding said "effect".
Clive's lawyer was on The Mason and Guest show, along with another lawyer who is handling the Bowne case, they both commented on the libel case of Clive, and is sending a message to media, these people are our heroes, don't defame them.
An apology is not a legal defence, it is just admission to the false claim.
Star
Apr 16, 2021, 5:13:29 PM
In reply to Norm
What harm?
Are you for real?
Star
Apr 16, 2021, 5:18:08 PM
In reply to openning
An apology is not a legal defence, it is just admission to the false claim.
You are correct.
Move to the head of the class.
Norm
Apr 16, 2021, 5:30:06 PM
In reply to Star
Are you for real?
Just answer, please.
Norm
Apr 16, 2021, 5:32:47 PM
In reply to openning
these people are our heroes, don't defame them.
Case specific harm will have to be demonstrated. How do you quantify, or even identify, "heroes"?
The reporter wrote that Lloyd said the Holder was no longer suitable for WI captaincy.
Even if that (that Holder was not suitable for WI captaincy) was a lie (it was not), how much harm would that have caused Lloyd? Did Lloyd lose anything tangible (job opportunities, publishing opportunities, etc) as a result?
The wrong was apparently that the newspaper reported that Lloyd said that Holder was unsuitable for WI captaincy. They fixed that. If Lloyd was harmed, he will need to prove it.
openning
Apr 16, 2021, 5:57:43 PM
In reply to Norm
Case specific harm will have to be demonstrated. How do you quantify, or even identify, "heroes"?
I am representing Sir Clive Lloyd in association with Guyanese counsel and if the Chronicle or anybody at the Chronicle is hearing let them understand that we are pressing ahead with the case on behalf of one of the great West Indians of the last 100 years, Ralph Thorne.