Slavery

link steveo Joined: Apr 30, 2007
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11/10/21, 12:43:10 PM 
When we are talking about slavery, do we bat an eye at the millions of mexicans and other illegal immigrants working at a fraction of the minimum wage, without health insurance or any other safety net?? Or to the inhumane conditions they live and work in??

There was a movie about a day without mexicans some years ago.

If we are talking about "Slavery", are we only stuck at the word or the reality?? These situations are an injustice. How about us reaping the benefits of the wests exploitation of the third world manufacturers and child labour to get cheap goods?? It is just or injust??

Dont fool yourselves we dwell in injustice and enjoy its fruits on a daily basis, its just a matter of convenience which ones we acknowledge.

link Brerzerk Joined: Mar 15, 2021
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11/10/21, 1:40:03 PM 
In reply to steveo
Are you seriously comparing low wage Mexicans who drive back home from work, stop wherever they want, earn and spend ALL their earnings

however they choose with slaves who earned nothing, had to get a pass from a master to leave his estate, got handed 2 suits of clothes yearly

could be hired out by his master to whom the money was paid to, could be whipped at the whim of his master, have his wife raped by any one of

the enslaver's race; had no control over his children?

Man low American low-wage earners have a much better life than the vast, vast majority of Indentured people under British Rule much less slavery111

Think about it brother please. Let us not just believe what we prefer to without deep thought and critical analysis first.

link Curtis Joined: Dec 3, 2002
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11/10/21, 1:46:55 PM 
In reply to Brerzerk

Yes, good response

link steveo Joined: Apr 30, 2007
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11/10/21, 2:08:25 PM 
In reply to Brerzerk

Are you seriously comparing low wage Mexicans who drive back home from work, stop wherever they want, earn and spend ALL their earnings

Think about it brother please. Let us not just believe what we prefer to without deep thought and critical analysis first.


"Low Wage mexicans who drive and spend ALL..."

Those Mexicans who stand around at home depot all day long, waiting for $20 job must be something in my imagination.

I did not know that those guys could afford cars/gas/insurance with those jobs. In fact they put up a convincing charade by piling up by the dozens in single bedroom apartments

Its extremely hypocritical to speak about justice and inequality and then dismiss a certain segment of people who do not fit into your agenda.

Why dont you protest to have these people treated fairly?? But I guess your pockets are more important than morality....where is this seen before?

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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11/10/21, 3:29:08 PM 
In reply to steveo

 
do we bat an eye at the millions of mexicans and other illegal immigrants working at a fraction of the minimum wage


It's illegal to work for less than minimum wage. There are a few exceptions like waitresses and commission workers but they make the equivalent or more in tips and commissions.

link nick2020 Joined: Jul 1, 2012
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11/10/21, 3:53:21 PM 
In reply to steveo

When we


Who is this we?

link SnoopDog Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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11/10/21, 3:58:15 PM 
In reply to black

I remember seeing a stat in the 90's that the average American family watched television for over 7 hours per day.

That right there is voluntary enslavement. lol

link SnoopDog Joined: Jan 23, 2004
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11/10/21, 3:59:31 PM 
In reply to black

There are a few exceptions like waitresses and commission workers but they make the equivalent or more in tips and commissions.


Be honest Bro.

How much do you really tip those Hooters girls? big grin

link black Joined: Feb 27, 2004
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11/10/21, 4:06:55 PM 
In reply to SnoopDog

They are not going to make a living off me. lol

link nick2020 Joined: Jul 1, 2012
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11/10/21, 4:09:28 PM 
In reply to steveo

Dont fool yourselves we dwell in injustice and enjoy its fruits on a daily basis, its just a matter of convenience which ones we acknowledge.


I would be hard pressed to use the label slavery; I would probably go down the line of exploitation.

Apple is a very rich company but the people working in the retail stores are not paid any better than the sector dishes out.

Capitalism, supply and demand, not everyone can be king. I dunno.

link Brerzerk Joined: Mar 15, 2021
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11/10/21, 4:14:35 PM 
In reply to steveo
C'mon Brother Steve, what with the Over-generalization? Nuff of those Home Depot ones come in groups where at least one of a group has a car parked somewhere. Many, many others work all sorts of jobs. Rich Napa Vineyards 15 mins from me hire Hispanics who live in the only poor part of Marin County. If on the way to work a cop stops one he/she is fined for driving without a license. They can't get tax returns and they pay fines which fills CA. COFFERS with an extra $5b. That's why the rap on them about free healthcare and education for their kids is disgusting.

link Barry Joined: Jun 19, 2019
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11/10/21, 4:22:32 PM 
Its extremely hypocritical to speak about justice and inequality and then dismiss a certain segment of people who do not fit into your agenda.

Three men of other races (including me) discussing the agenda of another race
cool

link XDFIX Joined: Mar 1, 2003
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11/10/21, 5:24:37 PM 
In reply to steveo


We are all slaves bro if we don't own the means or factor of production! Today, we are voluntary slaves whereas our forefathers were involuntary!

link Brerzerk Joined: Mar 15, 2021
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11/10/21, 5:35:13 PM 
In reply to steveo
You do not know and you are assuming I do not protest the conditions of exploited immigrants...to the contrary I actually do and in meaningful ways too.

You are changing the conversation regarding comparing their condition to chattel slavery.

Stay on topic will you, it is thou who started that comparison no?

link JahJah Joined: Dec 5, 2003
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11/11/21, 10:02:57 AM 
I'm surprised y'all didn't give this thread a miss. Steve did a try ah ting which pretty much everyone could see from a mile away. big grin

link Jabari18 Joined: Feb 27, 2011
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11/11/21, 10:59:53 AM 
In reply to steveo

The further we depart from the time of African Chattel Slavery the less and less we understand its horrors and the more we insult the victims with unfair comparisons.

link steveo Joined: Apr 30, 2007
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11/11/21, 12:04:28 PM 
In reply to Jabari18

You know any comparison with slavery will evoke the old timer "oh we walked 50 miles to school in freezing cold, barefoot, uphill both ways" kind of analogy.

The core issue I am talking about, is justice and equality. Inequality and the systems that perpetuate them are all over the world and hardly anybody cares or notices. Its the same pattern as in the days of slavery, groups unfairly exploited and others profiting from that exploitation.

As in the days of slavery, morality was not the focus, but economics, exactly the same as today. It seems our conscience can only see when its passions are raised, a very sad state of affairs.

link steveo Joined: Apr 30, 2007
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11/11/21, 12:14:29 PM 
In reply to JahJah

I'm surprised y'all didn't give this thread a miss. Steve did a try ah ting which pretty much everyone could see from a mile away.


Its a particular culture I despise. Not a colour. That culture exists in many races. If possible to dredge up history on this site, you will find me supporting many black people including Obama, Cosby, Chappelle etc

I am not going to give free passes, or not challenge you to get in your good graces. I will, you need to mature enough to handle it.

Believe what you want.

link Brerzerk Joined: Mar 15, 2021
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11/11/21, 2:27:30 PM 
In reply to JahJah

His is the classic black on black crime bait n switch, change the subject strategy

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