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Just imagine, when W I had lost 4 wkts gor 80 odd runs, a Lankan commentator was asking whether SL should enforce the follow on.

Guess all other teams know that we lack pedigree in our batting to put it charitably.

In reply to Hendra

Wouldn't mind they do. May work out in our favour

In reply to Hendra

Sad state of affairs.You can only get respect through performances. Sadly, we dont have the talent to compete consistently at this level.

In reply to NYCGURU

Shiv was not a talented batsman but he put in the work and applicaction to be very successful

In reply to Hendra

This WI team does not earn any respect. They don't even know the rudiments of test cricket. But this is what happens when you play a 2nd string team so long. The good players eventually go and you are stuck with the incompetents

In reply to Jumpstart

You again with Shoite. Even after the T20 WC

In reply to sudden

difference is the t20 team has actually won two world cups and is widely regarded as the first great t20 team. When nicholas referred to the WI as short of brains.....isd this side he was referring to

In reply to Jumpstart

More Shoite. Which WI team won in SL

In reply to sudden

hoss de last team before jason drew and a dude scored a triple hundred

In reply to Jumpstart

Won…you know what that means right

Teams with Lara won?

You still talking Shoite

In reply to sudden

You know teams with lara did not win, infact he on;y toured SL once.......but at least we were not disgraced. That SL team was a great side with murali and vaas(and mahela, sanath and sanga). Most teams that traveled their lost, including an autralia side, ranked no 1 in the world. This current SL team is probably their worst since full status. This is the same team that England whitewashed twice in two years

In reply to Jumpstart

And what is the difference now?

In reply to ducks

I beg to differ on your point that Shiv was not a talented batsman. I am sure that his hard work played a role in his success but to be able to handle the quickest bowlers in the world, and to work out a way to play spinners as late as he did off the wicket, required special talent.

In reply to sudden

the difference is they are playing an exceptionally poor west indies side, one that has been virtually uncompetitive since holder took over, with the exception of a few flash in the pans. Thankfully he is gone, but his and cameron's tenure left this test team bare

In reply to Jumpstart

Dude I have seen so called talented WI teams get beaten in 2-3 days regularly over the last 25 years.

Truly you are an ass or your head is buried up one

In reply to sudden

yuh admitting jason and holder's teams are 2nd string rubbish......great, the truth shall set you free

In reply to Jumpstart

Dude! When did you start to follow cricket?

In reply to JOJO

probably when you stopped viewing it rationally....maybe a dude from your island got a bligh and an extended chance to fail

In reply to JOJO

probably when you stopped viewing it rationally....maybe a dude from your island got a bligh and an extended chance to fail

In reply to Jumpstart

Every WI team after 1995 was second string in talent or result

In reply to sudden

lara sarwan, bravo, tiger, gayle, jerome taylor, fidel edwards, denesh ramdin were second rate..........

no wonder this side's incompetence does not bother you

In reply to Jumpstart

The results …

What did they show?

In reply to sudden

a drawn with the no 1 team in the world inn 1999, our last series win versus pakistan in 2000, a win over india in 2002 in a series we were expected to lose, an ODI series win in india , a win over Sl in 2003, a wisden trophy over a very, very strong england side, our first test match win in South Africa against steyn and co, a very competitive series in Australia in 2009, where umpiring decisions significantly influenced results and where our captain scored 3 hundreds, a drawn series in NZ in 2008

In reply to Jumpstart

That’s it?

Wow???

Wonder who said,” devastating losses etc”

Try doing a win / loss comparison over the years

In reply to sudden

certainly better than anything that holder or kraigg could conjure

In reply to Jumpstart

But devastating losses nonetheless

In reply to sudden
nobody respects this side or the players on it. Proof of this that we have not played a series against Australia in 6 and going to to be 7 years. Which was unthinkable even 10 years ago. We used to play australia every two or three years. Nobody with an ounce of self respect wants to play this side

In reply to Jumpstart

Mate, your head is buried up your ass or some else’s.

Even under Lara we were relegated to second string Oz grounds, reduced to 3 tests and removed from Boxing Day series.

Devastating losses since 1995

In reply to sudden

they were inviting us though.....and they were coming to tour here

lara only captained one tour of Australia.....and we played at the gabba(an iconic ground), hobart and Adelaide........io don't see any second string grounds here

In reply to Jumpstart

And it continued from there

Devastating losses since 1995 under every captain with differing iterations of WI teams

And in case you didn’t realize, India , Oz and Eng changed how test matches are allocated away from traditional norms

In reply to ducks

seriously. So a man who retired from test cricket with a batting average of 51.4 and made 11867 runs wasn't talented. Also, he had an average of 41.6 in ODIs and helped the W.I win on several occasions. Had it not been for those contributions, we would have suffered a lot more. His crab-like stance was unique and effective. Please, I beg of you, stop talking garbage.

In reply to NYCGURU
Agreed. Shiv was a talented batsman who made the most of his talent.

In reply to sudden
they did......they still invited teams that were performing to their shores though. NZ( not a big three) has played australia 5 times in the last decade, thrice in the last 6 years, South africa(also not a big three) has played Australia 5 times as well, twice in the last six years. The same with pakistan. Which conforms to how often we used to tour australia. Rubbish excuse.

In reply to Jumpstart

Devastating losses is more the reason…right

In reply to sudden
Don't go to the moderate success and devastating losses sudden ... don't

In reply to sudden
well its an expense to bring the teams jason and kraigg captain, why would you invite them. Its a tour that makes a loss

In reply to Walco

I have to. Not Dinad has revised that to when we were still winning

A win / loss graph from 1995- now would not pry him from his delusional illusions, so to speak

In reply to sudden

Well with the amount of lix yuh two cappos get, i would expect you to be so punch drunk that you can't see the difference.....unlesss it is petty polypite tribalism at work.....which is why you are always defensive when ever i mention tubby(nurse), holder and especially the one and only RTN

In reply to sudden

Well with the amount of lix yuh two cappos get, i would expect you to be so punch drunk that you can't see the difference.....unlesss it is petty polypite tribalism at work.....which is why you are always defensive when ever i mention tubby(nurse), holder and especially the one and only RTN

In reply to Jumpstart

There is one captain with a perfect record and he is from Barbados. I mentioned this before. Can anyone guess who he is?

In reply to ducks

That statement demonstrates a significant amount of ignorance

In reply to Windiesfan78

Would that be Dessie, Roger?

In reply to sudden

Incorrect, Floyd Reifer NEVER lost a t20 as captain. He should be most pleased with his record as captain in that format. The next best record would be Pooran followed by the legendary Sammy.

In reply to ducks
Shiv had lots of talent. Did he maximize it? Hell yes, you don't go to England at 18 n make a double ton vs.their U19 without talent. You don't debut @19 n make 60mtest runs without lots of talent.

Anyone who doesn't want to admit the vast chasm between the pre n post Hilaire test team is be disingenuous. For instance I believe if a Kuk Edwuds was drafted into a Shiv, Sars, Gayle team as a #6 he'd have had a good test career learning from them and Bravo-Ramdin @ 7-8. That's how test teams maintain longevity

In reply to Brerzerk

say what you want about HH, but it must also be acknowledged that the WI was getting beat around that period and getting beat badly.

there were the odd occasion of a steady team performance or an individual one but we are fooling ourselves if we persist with this nonsense that, but for HH, WI cricket would have risen again.

trying to revise history or citing a one off victory or performance to buttress some silly argument that HH brought us here is dishonest in intent and disingenuous in reality

one just has to look at our 4 day batting averages and all round cricket to understand.

from around 1995 and some argue even before that, WI cricket was faltering but we like to blame certain persons, territories or events.

we are shoite at present but i live and hope ...not Shai

In reply to sudden
This is why our cricket is so poor, have a look and our fc batting stats,
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In reply to Brerzerk

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU: Pre that moron: first test win in SA, first wisden trophy win in 9 years, an excellent series down under in 2009. Disingenuous is not the word, damn dishonest is

In reply to sudden

Always accusing ppl on revising history but can never correct them.


When last have the best WI members played fc cricket? You will judge gayle on how many times he played for jamaica? Facts are the rubbish WI cricketers comprise most of the FC teams because they cannot get contracts outside anywhere.

In reply to Jumpstart

WTF are you on about?

post the test results from 1995 or thereabouts

In reply to sudden

im talking about you're consistent denial of the obvious gulf in class between the pre-hillaire teams and those after the moron, with the teams captained by holder being the most blatant example, even though hillaire had already left. It is he who started fielding 2nd string sides

In reply to Jumpstart

post the test results please

In reply to sudden

i mentioed them at nausea already

In reply to Jumpstart


ad nauseum.


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In reply to Ewart

A few years ago, a poster wrote “at museum”. It’s a pity I did not archive it.

In reply to ducks

the next time i hear this isht imma draw some duck meat

In reply to doosra

You know....I don't have the energy or inclination to take on fucks like these anymore.

Cornwall's attacking play playg has served us well by putting SL on the back foot and enabling us to save the follow on.
Since our batting is so weak they should consider playing him for his batsmanship. Also DaSilva should be promoted in the batting order. Anything to improve our performance. Boy.... when the cupboard is bare..

The mocking continues

In reply to Narper
And with ample justification. You realize that we have the worst brainless players in international cricket.