Can a Test team be demoted

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link Kay Joined: Jan 31, 2015
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11/24/21, 8:35:20 AM 
To Associate status?

link Tryangle Joined: Jul 10, 2004
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11/24/21, 9:23:20 AM 
In reply to Kay

Not quite; but depending on how the rest of the WTC unfolds, the calls for Division 1 and Division 2 Test matches could grow further.

link VoopsandOut Joined: Jun 14, 2017
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11/24/21, 9:33:38 AM 
What this entire year has shown is that CWI has to arrange A team tours for WI to get our guys some international experience short of test cricket. If you look at the Cricinfo Live Scores board, you see that several other countries do A teams tours but we do not. If our FC level is not good enough, the only way to get experience short of test cricket is to play other A teams. All our batsmen and some of the young bowlers should be on such teams to get experience.

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 21, 2015
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11/24/21, 10:14:37 AM 
To Women Test matches? big grin big grin

link Dukes Joined: Dec 5, 2002
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11/24/21, 10:43:41 AM 
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Zimbabwe stopped playing test cricket for a couple of years.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 10:46:09 AM 
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why?

link WI_cricfan Joined: Oct 11, 2006
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11/24/21, 10:47:53 AM 
to me WI should do the honourable thing and do what Zimbabwe did a few yrs ago.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 10:49:01 AM 
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why?

link WI_cricfan Joined: Oct 11, 2006
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11/24/21, 10:50:39 AM 
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Why not

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 10:51:41 AM 
In reply to WI_cricfan

you made the statement you ought to say why you think so

link WI_cricfan Joined: Oct 11, 2006
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11/24/21, 11:03:33 AM 
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No I don't have to

link Dukes Joined: Dec 5, 2002
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11/24/21, 11:04:47 AM 
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Unlike many on this board I do not post BS. If I do not know I STFU.
I vaguely remembered that Zimbabwe had stopped playing test cricket but I did not have the facts.SO I looked it up and within 5 minutes I got all the pertinent facts.

IN 2005 Zimbabwe lost 5 straight matches by an Innings and the 6th match by 10 wickets.They withdrew from test cricket until 2011 and they won their first match back by 130 runs against Bangladesh.

link Tryangle Joined: Jul 10, 2004
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11/24/21, 11:11:18 AM 
Zimbabwe taking a 'break' from Men's Tests was way more complex than just the team struggling to compete.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 11:15:36 AM 
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i believe you know the difference between ought to and have to?

and i knew you wouldnt. that why i said ought to

link camos Joined: May 5, 2003
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11/24/21, 11:15:52 AM 
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what were some of the other factors?

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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11/24/21, 11:16:00 AM 

Oh no, not under Shallow Skillet's watch, please!

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 11:21:28 AM 
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and unlike many on this board i never ask a question unless i know or have an idea what the likely answer is or have a rebuttal just in case.

this is one of those moments


FirstCricket Staff
July 19th, 2019
15:19:26 IST

The International Cricket Council (ICC) on Thursday suspended Zimbabwe after the country’s cricket board, Zimbabwe Cricket (ZC), was unable to keep out government's interference with the board's administration.

This is for the first time that a Full Member team has been suspended from partaking in any form of cricket.

Many former and current players from the country have expressed disappointment and anger over the decision.

The African team has a forgettable history of events. While Zimbabwe’s Test cricket status was suspended in 2004 following withdrawal of players due to then-captain Heath Streak’s sacking, the team’s ban was lifted in 2005, when they played eight Tests.

However, they failed to play a single Test match until 2011 despite being eligible to do so.



that took me 2 minutes big grin

link XDFIX Joined: Mar 1, 2003
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11/24/21, 11:21:34 AM 
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Yeah, the board engaged in some shenanigans and there was also political interference!

link camos Joined: May 5, 2003
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11/24/21, 11:27:52 AM 
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the period 2005- 2011 was their choice,they could have played if they wanted as early as 2005.

link TheTrail Joined: Jun 7, 2008
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11/24/21, 11:38:12 AM 
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In reply to sudden

Unlike many on this board I do not post BS. If I do not know I STFU.
I vaguely remembered that Zimbabwe had stopped playing test cricket but I did not have the facts.SO I looked it up and within 5 minutes I got all the pertinent facts.

IN 2005 Zimbabwe lost 5 straight matches by an Innings and the 6th match by 10 wickets.They withdrew from test cricket until 2011 and they won their first match back by 130 runs against Bangladesh.


Hear, hear!

Sudden just trying to mess with our heads, He knows the answer but trying to play, wait and see.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 11:51:13 AM 
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there is the quantitative approach which Dukes likes and the qualitative which i prefer.

i have cautioned Dukes many a time that raw data do not mean much on its own. the qualitative often explains the qualitative as is the case here

link natty_forever Joined: Apr 27, 2003
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11/24/21, 11:53:15 AM 
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What about having players prepared prior to A team tours. Could be used to feed the A team tours.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/24/21, 12:12:54 PM 

Why was Zimbabwe Cricket suspended?

Zimbabwe Cricket was suspended on 18 July after the board failed to ensure that there was no government interference in running the cricket body in the country. Cricket's global body during their meeting in London, issued a statement on Zimbabwe's immediate suspension after it was unanimously decided that the board had failed to fulfil their obligation to provide a process for a transparent elections and to ensure that there is no meddling from the government involved in its administration for cricket.

"Zimbabwe Cricket has been suspended with immediate effect. The ICC Board unanimously decided that Zimbabwe Cricket, an ICC Full Member, is in breach of Article 2.4 (c) and (d) of the ICC Constitution which imposes an obligation on Members to provide a process for free and democratic elections and to ensure that there is no government interference in its governance and / or administration for cricket respectively," the ICC said in a statement.

link Kay Joined: Jan 31, 2015
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11/24/21, 2:10:07 PM 
Are "A" Team tours part of the ICC calendar or someone has to agree to host you or conversely agree to accept your invitation to tour?

link camos Joined: May 5, 2003
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11/24/21, 4:39:51 PM 
"Zimbabwe Cricket has been suspended with immediate effect. The ICC Board unanimously decided that Zimbabwe Cricket, an ICC Full Member, is in breach of Article 2.4 (c) and (d) of the ICC Constitution which imposes an obligation on Members to provide a process for free and democratic elections and to ensure that there is no government interference in its governance and / or administration for cricket respectively," the ICC said in a statement.



Is the ICC saying Ralph, Keith and Rowley not real politicians? wink

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