POSITIVES FROM FIRST TEST

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link Emir Joined: Aug 8, 2014
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11/25/21, 8:24:56 AM 
Positives:
1. DaSilva glovework has improved significantly and his batting is very convincing.
2. Bonner has shown what he is capable of doing.

Areas of Concern:
1. Top order batters must use their feet more often in SL pitches
2. Fielding not up to par- Blackwood dropped the opposing cappo when he was less than 20 in first inning
3. Brathwaite's batting need to click

Changes for Next Test:
1. Hope out and Solonazo back in
2. Warrican out- Seales in
3. Gabriel out- Roach in

Issues for Team Management- ICC complaint:
1. Pitch was not up to test match standard.
2. Umpiring appears to favor SL

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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11/25/21, 8:47:05 AM 
In reply to Emir

How about Chase's 5 wicket haul in the first innings and Cornwall's fighting knock for positives as well. Also, one positive to note is that this team is still fighting despite the odds stacked against them.

link Emir Joined: Aug 8, 2014
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11/25/21, 9:06:47 AM 
In reply to Windiesfan78
dd
How about Chase's 5 wicket haul in the first innings
Added.


Cornwall's fighting knock for positives as well
okay but his bowling impact was ordinary.



Also, one positive to note is that this team is still fighting despite the odds stacked against them.
Absolutely, I have written about this in another post, but you are correct, we cannot overstate this.

link VoopsandOut Joined: Jun 14, 2017
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11/25/21, 9:41:51 AM 
Badly beaten but not entirely disgraced because different persons did little bits and pieces throughout to show that if all can gel at the same time we can be competitive. For me, Hope and Gabriel go out. Solzano gets a chance and either Roach or Seales come in. I do not see the need to change Warrican who got 5 wickets in the match. I would have agreed to open again with Blackwood if we had a decent middle order replacement but I dont think that Hope should make the cut for the second test as he was only one who did not contribute anything at all at any point. Hopefully Holder can be more penetrative in the second test.

link dayne Joined: May 28, 2007
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11/25/21, 10:25:14 AM 
I would do something different, I would replace Solozano/Hope with Roach, as the batting line-up is already long on paper and it was shown that it does not matter, Roach is capable of making as much runs as most of the top order batsmen and he strengthens the bowling. The WI have a better chance in a low scoring match.

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/25/21, 11:07:46 AM 
In reply to dayne

not the worst idea, at all

link VoopsandOut Joined: Jun 14, 2017
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11/25/21, 11:10:34 AM 
In reply to sudden

and further replace Gabriel with Seales? it is not a bad idea to strengthen the bowling to try to contain SL on the basis that the batting is likely to be get any better. Harsh on poor Solzano though!!

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/25/21, 11:15:55 AM 
In reply to VoopsandOut

i think that is a given.

there is little need for Chase and Cornwallis. either one would do especially if Warrican is playing

link velo Joined: Jul 28, 2019
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11/25/21, 11:16:27 AM 
drop cornwall for anybody period i never agreed with them plating three spinners chase is far better than cornwall and he can run too

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 23, 2021
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11/25/21, 11:18:52 AM 
The problem in the first test was the batting. True to form some want to tinker with the bowling? Continuous nonsense.

link VoopsandOut Joined: Jun 14, 2017
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11/25/21, 11:22:32 AM 
In reply to Overthrow

on the basis that if you cant bat, you try to bowl out the opposition for fewer runs. But if you have suggestions from the tour squad to strengthen the batting, please share!

link Khaga Joined: Mar 28, 2016
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11/25/21, 12:39:29 PM 
No Covid positives.. have a healthy tour!!

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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11/25/21, 12:39:39 PM 
After this series, I would like to see Dasilva opening.
Good to see the fight in Bonner.
Kraigg, Chase,Mayers, Holder and Blackwood has to be consistent, in give the bowlers scores to work with.
I did not include Hope, because he was a substitute, and has not merit selection in the playing X1.

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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11/25/21, 12:44:44 PM 
In reply to Overthrow
Warrican needs plenty help, why don't you assist him?
He does not use the crease, neither will he bowld at any time over the wicket to right hand batsman nor around the wicket to lefties.

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 23, 2021
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11/25/21, 12:45:22 PM 
In reply to VoopsandOut

We did bowl them out in a first inning, batting in both innings was our problem. When this series is finished time to revamp the middle order batting.

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 23, 2021
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11/25/21, 12:55:32 PM 
In reply to openning

Makes quite a lot of sense. This would require replacing Cornwall. We badly need a wrist spinner to develop quickly.no objections to a replacement for Gabriel but not for making a change sake. Requires a bowler who can astutely plan each delivery for a result. Bear in mind Gabriel was the only quick who took wickets in the first test.

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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11/25/21, 1:09:40 PM 
Very thought provoking comments but one I don't agree with. Jimbo is staying on the runway. He is an allrounder that made runs, is a decent slip fielder and can get wickets. He strengthens the batting lineup and as you all can see, that is where the problem is. Roach MUST play, why Gabriel was chosen is beyond me. Also, Kyle Mayers bowled 3 overs in the whole match. He is a medium pacer with a tight line. He should have bowled more.

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 23, 2021
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11/25/21, 1:14:58 PM 
In reply to Windiesfan78

Also a salient perspective. Again batting is the flaw, the bowling needs improvement, however not as much as the batting.

link VoopsandOut Joined: Jun 14, 2017
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11/25/21, 1:44:14 PM 
In reply to Windiesfan78

it was a mystery why Mayers was not given a bowl yet Kraigg bowled himself. Is he carrying some kind of injury? i thought that on paper the team had good balance with Myers as third seamer and 3 spinners. maybe bowling rotation is something that Cap needs to think about during the break. Mayers cannot play as purely a batsman (although he is no worse than the other batsmen)

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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11/25/21, 1:47:18 PM 
In reply to Overthrow

Correct, hence also the reason why Roach should replace Gabriel. Better bowler who can make runs and spend time at the crease.

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 23, 2021
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11/25/21, 1:51:28 PM 
In reply to VoopsandOut

I also thought we had a very good bowling line up. Why some decisions as to restricting the use of Mayers is an unknown. Saw the same info the Super 50 and CPL.

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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11/25/21, 2:07:04 PM 
In reply to VoopsandOut

Actually, Mayers is one of the better batsmen on the team. He looked a lot more comfortable when he was batting and got out in the second innings lbw because he left a ball that he was expecting to turn away. Brathwaite should have rotated him to give some of the bowlers a rest. Also, remember Mayers made one of the highest scores in the first innings.

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 23, 2021
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11/25/21, 2:11:01 PM 
In reply to Windiesfan78

Replayed that out by Mayers a few times. The surprise he showed indicated a variation of the pitch.

link imusic Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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11/25/21, 2:41:11 PM 
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Roston Chase supposed to be a special batsman.

He made a total of 3 runs in the match. He also took 5 wickets in the match

Cornwall supposed to be a specialist bowler. He took zero wickets and scored 39 crucial runs in the first innings to help the team avoid the follow on.

Warrican is a specialist bowler. He took 5 wickets in the match

Chase failed miserably in his specialty and exceeded expectations as a bowler

Cornwall failed miserably in his specialty and exceeded expectations as a batsman

Warrican performed as you would expect in his specialty.

Based on posts here, Cornwall’s contribution is deemed to be less significant than that of Chase and Warrican.

Surprising? Chase’s 3 runs and Cornwall’s 39 dismissed with nary a thought.

As for Cornwall not moving…..that’s a challenge.

Chase moves. Cornwall doesn’t.

Yet Cornwall had 2 catches. Chase none. Cornwall is much better in his fielding position than Chase is in his.

Not surprising at all

link sudden Joined: Nov 26, 2006
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11/25/21, 4:53:54 PM 
So if a fielder had no potential catches coming to him that is reckonable against him in comparison with a fielder who took 2 out of the 3 that came his way?

Wtf?

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