So is Jamaica B better than West Indies?

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link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 21, 2015
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1/13/22, 7:53:20 PM 
I am extremely alarmed by the West Indies ODI team disappointing lost to Ireland by 5 wickets, especially considering that a young Jamaican team overwhelmingly beat Ireland with an easy 5 wicket victory.
I do not want to hear any nonsense arguments about Ireland not taking a warm-up game seriously when we know that no team plays to lose any match. It’s high time for some fans to discontinue to bury their heads into the sand and face the reality that this West team is pitifully poor.
I would not be surprised that if a match was arranged between WI and Jamaica B, that it’s a very likely that WI would also lose to Jamaica B.
How much lower can WI go?

link FanAttick Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/13/22, 8:04:58 PM 
In reply to Slipfeeler

How Greaves playing ahead of Rovman Powell?

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/13/22, 8:23:01 PM 
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You want Rovman to open?
You send like the fans from the Lower Island, who wanted a Shillingford to be selected instead of David Allen.
David was a Wicketkeeper, Shillingford an Allrounder.
Lets be real.

link mikelegend Joined: Nov 27, 2009
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1/13/22, 8:27:42 PM 
With the form Brandon King displayed recently, he should have been the other opener in the absence of Lewis. Even ‘unfit’ Hemraj should have gotten the opportunity.

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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1/13/22, 8:29:41 PM 
In reply to openning

Greaves can't even open him mout.

Joseph, our #11 batsman, would do a lot better than him.

link imusic Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/13/22, 8:29:45 PM 
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Agreed. Nicholson Gordon and Marquino Mindley alone would have dismissed this Irish team for under 150

Hopefully the selectors can come to their senses and have Jamaica B (altho Fanattick called them Jamaica C earlier in the week so they must have.been promoted) fully represent West Indies in the 3rd and final ODI

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/13/22, 8:34:14 PM 
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That selection was for the musicman.
Never go to the races with him, he would bet on a donkey before a horse.

lol

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 21, 2015
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1/13/22, 8:34:22 PM 
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How much lower can we as a team go? This is way past shameful now!

link imusic Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/13/22, 8:38:56 PM 
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In reply to Slipfeeler

Let me see

51 vs England in 2021 T20 World Cup

Lose to Kenya in World Cup

47 all out against England at Sabina Park

Shall I continue?

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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1/13/22, 8:39:05 PM 
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I have something to post on the subject, but waiting on Jumpstart to show up.

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/13/22, 8:39:37 PM 
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It is sad, I have not seen any improvement from the batsman.
Brooks is the only one, seem to be working away from competition.

link Yadi Joined: Dec 25, 2003
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1/13/22, 9:43:20 PM 
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West Indies need Evin Lewis and Shimron Hetmyer? rolleyes

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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1/13/22, 10:10:10 PM 
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Brooks has played well despite the dross around him. Hope seems to be low on confidence, he is better than this. Greaves needs to NEVER play for the West Indies again. He is a poor player. Pooran needs to bat lower down the order. I could go on but I can't be bothered.

link Brerzerk Joined: Mar 15, 2021
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1/13/22, 11:09:18 PM 
I music your attempt at whataboutizm is beneath you and your usual contributions

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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1/14/22, 8:32:15 AM 
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No -- they all suck

link anthonyp Joined: Nov 1, 2009
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1/14/22, 9:10:59 AM 
Let dem know slippy, Jamaica C is way better than the Polly and friends team lol

Powell and company would put a trashing on this weak Ireland team smile

link analyst-kid Joined: Feb 21, 2003
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1/14/22, 11:33:54 AM 
Alas they are no batsmen in the squad available to replace. The Bajans are playing no domestic cricket but still I am sick of seeing Hope and Chase failing home and away.

Pooran and Hope have to show some character in the next match. Five batsmen Hope Chase Greaves Pooran and Holder consistently failing is horrible.

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 21, 2015
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1/14/22, 2:13:34 PM 
As I was telling my Baje Co-worker today that Brooks is really looking the part as an ODI Batsman but some others are faltering against a weak Ireland team.

link Headley Joined: Dec 1, 2007
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1/14/22, 9:54:41 PM 
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Five batsmen Hope, Chase, Greaves, Pooran and Holder consistently failing is horrible.


Hope, Chase, Greaves and Holder are lead footed and cannot play out of the crease. After a few well-pitched up balls they try to play from the crease and are lbw candidates or get out (poking at the ball) caught behind or in slips. Hope has forgotten how to play on the front foot.

Pooran just loves to hit the ball in the air. He is like an addicted gambler.

These guys are well paid whether they succeed or fail. It will be hard to convince them to change before they get dropped.

link JamMack Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/15/22, 9:30:46 AM 
If the goal or the question is to see how much lower can WI cricket team go, then there certainly is some more work to do to get lower. Currently they are the worst I’ve ever seen on an international cricket scene, but the fact is that they continue to participate (notice I did not say compete) in international cricket as an assembled group without a sponsor or national flag. The next step should be bold enough to administratively bury the colonial bunch of misfits who lack the necessary management, coaching, sponsorship, anthem, patriotism, objectivity and pride to represent a region that is so blessed with raw cricketing talent. End it now please!

Go it alone Jamaica! Go it alone Trinidad! Go it alone Barbados! Go it alone Guyana! Go it alone Leewards & Windwards! Restore the aforementioned attributes and characteristics required for success. The people in the region are no longer interested in cricket because for them WI cricket is at the helm of the sport. If the top of their cricket ladder was to deliver for their country of birth then the patriotic enthusiasm in the game would return and the people of the respective nations would put their best foot forward (bat & pad close together) and hold their players accountable for their actions an inactions. We should have done this a long time ago. Now teams like Afghanistan, Uganda, Ireland, Scotland & UAE are on the verge of overstepping Cricket West Indies. rolleyes rolleyes

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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1/15/22, 12:53:17 PM 
In reply to JamMack

This would really hurt me. The day there is no longer a W.I team is the day I would stop following cricket, just like how I stopped following basketball when Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen retired from the Chicago Bulls. Going alone is a not an option in my books and would show a defeatist attitude. If teams such as Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Ireland and Scotland can improve with time, I am not prepared to give up on this team. It is a poor team but it is my poor team.

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 21, 2015
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1/15/22, 3:02:59 PM 
I strongly believe that players’ performances would improve if they are paid based on performance, instead of giving them a blanket check contract.

link Headley Joined: Dec 1, 2007
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1/15/22, 3:09:17 PM 
In reply to Slipfeeler

That nonsense only works in places where they insist on applying performance management techniques. You must be a 'Big Idiot'. big grin

link Slipfeeler Joined: Dec 21, 2015
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1/15/22, 4:28:37 PM 
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So Bigger Idiot, what is stopping the application of performance management techniques here?
Are you saying that WI team is somehow immune to performance management? Maybe that might be the reason for their consecutive matches devoid of creditable performances and subsequently losses.
Why beat up the messenger when we have a very poor team to fix?

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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1/15/22, 4:58:38 PM 
In reply to Slipfeeler

Performance based incentives would be quite interesting since the men are largely motivated by money. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw some sort of improvement.

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