Who are the batting coaches in the region?

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/14/22, 11:00:31 AM 
Poke or swing.

link Elsie Joined: Nov 30, 2002
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1/14/22, 11:16:29 AM 
In reply to openning

And they're getting bowled between bat and pad so often...

The last dismissal was a mirror image of the previous one..

One he bowled with his left arm, and the other one from his right arm..

Coaching.... I don't blame the coach...

These kids have obviously not played enough cricket in their young lives.. Two different standards of cricket on display..

link anthonyp Joined: Nov 1, 2009
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1/14/22, 11:20:47 AM 
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Can't blame the youths.. over 2 years since the region had a youth tournament.

link Elsie Joined: Nov 30, 2002
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1/14/22, 11:27:42 AM 
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I know what you're saying, but, they're making elementary mistakes..

I tuned in late... How did Auguste look...?

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/14/22, 11:31:34 AM 
The fundamentals are not there, over fifty of these players have been together for sometime, along with training in Antigua, matches have been played against south Africa and England.
How many of the batsman have you seen getting to the pitch, or forcing the ball off the Backfoot?

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 5, 2005
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1/14/22, 12:56:33 PM 
In reply to openning

Been saying that for many a year now. Just piss poor technique. Cement feet, hard hands, playing defensive and bat and pad so far apart etc. Simple things lost to WI cricket.

link mkcharles Joined: Feb 26, 2010
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1/14/22, 2:15:14 PM 
If anyone follows what’s happening in the age groups all over the world will know we are MILES behind. Young cricketers are being trained in the specific aspects of the craft utilizing technology and science all without tampering with their natural cognitive abilities, coordination etc etc.

Our coaches are basically bits and pieces alleounders who may have played to a good level, even the highest, but all they do really is take their charges through general cricket drills.

So much short form repetitive cricket is being played these days and because the base set of work is weak, the players in the international setup have little time to correct deficiencies, especially as they don’t have coaches who know how to do so.

What is role of the former greats? They should be no more than paid consultants that can be part of the brains trust in a remodeled program. I challenge anyone to put forward one former great who can take change of our international mens teams and make a difference in the current environment.

This body of work has to start from as early as age 11 which means that we are a decade away from real results if implemented now. In 10 years, cricket in the WI as we know it will be defunct.

link velo Joined: Jul 28, 2019
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1/14/22, 2:53:33 PM 
what really has changed from the youth system that produced lara ,chanders ,sarwan or gayle. coaching? pitches?attitude of players

link WICFan Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/14/22, 2:57:30 PM 
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What is role of the former greats? They should be no more than paid consultants that can be part of the brains trust in a remodeled program.


You can bring as many former greats in as you want, if the facilities and technology isn't there then they're already steps behind rivals.

link Seechy Joined: Jan 29, 2009
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1/14/22, 3:01:51 PM 
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Shiv Chanderpaul should be a coach.

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1/14/22, 9:02:21 PM 

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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1/14/22, 9:42:45 PM 
Watch out now!!!! surprised

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/14/22, 10:03:48 PM 
In reply to mkcharles
If anyone follows what’s happening in the age groups all over the world will know we are MILES behind. Young cricketers are being trained in the specific aspects of the craft utilizing technology and science all without tampering with their natural cognitive abilities, coordination etc etc.


Two references come to mind when reading views.
I've heard about Seymour Nurse preparation for Australia, where practice daily from morning to night, Bobby Simpson in his book states, He felt sorry for Seymour when he walked to the wicket, as he batted, he felt sorrier for his bowlers, Seymour scored a double in that match.
Tiger Woods knew something was not right with his swing, and fired Butch Harmon, that after he had won many tournaments, many golf fans and instructors said he was nuts, he revamp his entire swing, today he has won 15 majors and 85 PGA tournaments.
You must put in the work, if you want to be successful.
It the amount of reps you do, to improve your game.
Colin Deane who scored for Barbados, would call me, after spotting Gordon Greenidge for hours.
Viv paid a number of people to bowl to him, when he was home in Antigua.

link Windiesfan78 Joined: Oct 19, 2021
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1/15/22, 12:27:37 AM 
In reply to openning

Excellent point. Look at Shiv, he bought a bowling machine and would practise batting at home. This team has no world class players. Hope, Pooran, Holder and Chase have been incredibly disappointing. Hope has the highest average in the team and needs to prove there is a reason behind his average of 52.07. This man has a highest score of 170 with 10 100s and 19 50s. Pooran has an average of 44.08 after 33 matches with a strike rate of 100+. As for Jason Holder, he is in the top 20 all rounders in the world and is currently 19th. Roston Chase just won't reach his true potential. It is sad when these players are performing so poorly. I believe confidence levels must be at an all time low.

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 25, 2007
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1/16/22, 8:30:10 AM 
In reply to openning

Listen to Ian Chappell, who thinks selectors are more important/valuable than coaches (my words).

Cricket needs to start valuing selectors more highly than coaches

It's his way of thinking that just served up a 4/0 Ashes win.

link Headley Joined: Dec 1, 2007
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1/16/22, 9:33:18 AM 
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It's clear a number of selectors across the world don't quite know what they need to be looking for


There's often a temptation to choose gritty players and there are times when this can be a wise selection. On the other hand, fans expect to see a few aggressive young players selected, and when these players come off, they provide great entertainment.


Good article. Thanks.

link openning Joined: Nov 12, 2002
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1/16/22, 9:54:56 AM 
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These are the kind of people, who others believe everything that comes out of their mouths, is gospel.
Thanks for sharing.

link mkcharles Joined: Feb 26, 2010
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1/17/22, 8:52:16 AM 
I don’t know of a selector who does not have a personal bias or is inclined to suppoort his network whether Directly or indirectly.

My advice to young players has always been, work very hard and produce, whether it’s runs or wickets and leave the politics to the politicians.

If your produce then no one can have a worthwhile rebuttal.

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