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Champs Watch 2022
Boy's side = 2 team race. Past students at these institutions will hope the other yield.
Girls = Edwin with Hydel and St. Jago very dangerous.
In reply to JoeGrine
any early indication if fans will be allowed?
In reply to Headley
I'm ready to roll. Like Joe says,two team race again.
Looks like we did pretty good at today's meets.
In reply to rudebway
That decision is at best fluid. Too early to tell.
In reply to RoyalDad
Yes it looks like a KC, JC affair. I am still waiting to see the boys who will compete.
Many questions
Is Matthew Sutherland still at JC?
Is Tajae Francis still at KC?
Who will do the 5,000m for KC and JC?
Who are the field events class 2 competitors. Any surprises?
Who are the imports for KC and JC?
In reply to JoeGrine
Chevonne Hall is back. That could put Roban and Blake in 2nd and 3rd place in both the 800m and 1500m.
In reply to Headley
Rumours with our imports from Africa. Any truth to this?Last info I saw said it was about 20 total.
In reply to Headley
Who are the imports for KC and JC?
The usual Africans (KC) and Eastern Caribbean (JC) cadre.
This is getting from bad to worse!
In reply to RoyalDad
I don't have any info. I was hoping Joe did.
In reply to JoeGrine
I am not against importing athletes if it helps to improve our athletes. Maybe each school should have a limit per class. For example it is clear to me that Roban has helped to improve Blake.
In reply to Headley
So basically, a school can recruit a full complement of athlete from overseas and use that team to win Champs on the guise that "it helps to improve our athletes"?
In reply to JoeGrine
It seems like you have an issue which you need to take up with ISSA. Remember it's your country. I know we've been socialised to think other people run things.
Since I don't live in Jamaica, I am not in a position to change anything in Jamaica. My suggestion was that maybe there could be a limit by class. I have not heard yours.
In reply to JoeGrine
i take it that the old boys associations on the big 3 all prefer this. whoever has the biggest budget wins. otherwise, why woud issa not act? i guess more Ari Rogers champs moments. oh well.
In reply to Headley
Ato Boldon Interview
Well worth watching
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Well if student athletes from overseas aspire to hone their craft in Ja. that shouldn't be a big deal.
In reply to Headley
It seems like you have an issue which you need to take up with ISSA. Remember it's your country. I know we've been socialised to think other people run things.
Since I don't live in Jamaica, I am not in a position to change anything in Jamaica. My suggestion was that maybe there could be a limit by class. I have not heard yours.
It is not that important to me that I should address ISSA. I am merely a lover of Jamaican high school track and football. Like other lovers we come here and voice our opinions. I simply asked you a question.
In reply to Wally-1
If honing of craft is what the overseas athletes desire, then the big money spending schools should simply state such and stop acting as if that is not what it is. Now by putting aside the charade, maybe then some regulation on overseas recruiting can be implemented so that locals who are recruited to the big money schools are not the only ones being handicapped.
In reply to rudebway
Grab your popcorn.
In reply to JoeGrine
Mmmm What say you about the colleges in the USA that recruits overseas athletes for their programs? They recruit overseas athlete for all their sporting programs.
In reply to beesis
I say nothing about that as it is better regulated than what we have in our high school system.
In reply to JoeGrine
OK well at least we now know you are not against it but just think it needs to be regulated. Hopefully, not by the government.
In any case this is still just a drip and seem to me a case of the rich getting richer but it's the rich and powerful who drive changes unless it's a revolution. Maybe some regulations can be put in place before it becomes a flood.
Personally, I think it's good for our athletes when we compete against better opposition but as a Titchfield old bwoy "puss no business inna dog fight" mmmmm
In reply to FanAttick
Thanks Fan, very long but for a T&F fan well worth watching.
In reply to RoyalDad
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Remember this Class 3 youth Taj Oneil Gordon.
Take a look at Taj Oneil Gordon in race 2 of this video. He's running 53.84 here in the 400m without any competition.
He had run 13.44 earlier. The fastest time of the day in the 100mh.
In reply to Headley
Yes. Solid runner in this class. The other KC runners give us a strong team indeed.
In reply to RoyalDad
JC is very deep in the distance races especially Class 1 and Class 2. Not sure about the sprints, except of course for Mark Anthony Miller in class 2.
I believe the 100m, 400m double may be easier for him than the 100m, 200m double or the 200m, 400m double but I wait to see what double he will attempt.
In reply to Headley
Grace Jackson meet this weekend?
Boughwagie and Kerr still around?
Class 1 hurdler looks good at recent meet.
JC come ready to run at QGJ meet today.
In reply to Headley
Saw highlights of QGJ meet.
Class 2 Grant looks like another Stennett coming.Sharpe in his heat.
Wade in class 3 / 200. Impressive though he lost to CBar runner at line.
Adrian Kerr is back.
Ford and Jennings in class 1 400 hurdles. One of our motherland recruits Rwotomiya ran a good 2nd in flat 400.
I think from what I saw,very promising.
In reply to RoyalDad
Injury prone. Pray and hope he stays healthy.
Forbes not Ford. Forbes is the real deal. First year class 1 but a good technician. Won Class 2 last year. Predicting first or second for him. Roshawn Clarke of Camperdown is Forbes main threat.
That was Rwotomiya's PB. Should take it down a notch for Champs.
In reply to Headley
Gibson next week or two even though it's watered down.
Need to see some more of the imports.
From what I have seen so far,though early,we have a solid team.
In reply to Headley
Nkrumie ran today and pulled up 20 meters out.
Dont know what happened.
Class three with Wade and Gordon.
In reply to RoyalDad
Tajae Francis did it too but at 90m.
I may be wrong but I've seen him run 60m and jog the rest before. I've seen him look at his watch at 80m too.
Wish he would stop showboating but he will learn.
In reply to Headley
Fervet Opus In Campis.
In reply to mikesiva
Fervet looks weak in C3 my friend. Let's hope they have enough elsewhere to compensate.
In reply to JoeGrine
We need to recruit some more small islanders.
In reply to JoeGrine
i see in the gleaner that fans are being allowed for gibson relays. that bodes well for Champs...i can come cheer on the locals against all these imports. i hope they all flop
In reply to rudebway
In reply to Headley
At JAAA today,the distance runners were on show.
KC looks weak except for the Henry twins,and they have to compete with a very strong JC contingent.Both lost their race.
I was hoping to see Ruto,but he did not run.Robinson of KC won his race..class 3/ 800.
In reply to RoyalDad
JC strong in Class 1. Should be 1st and 2nd in 800m and 1500m. KC may be any combination of 2nd to 4th
KC should win 5,000m. JC may be any combination of 3rd to 8th
Steeplecase?? Medley 800m??
Class 2 800m and 1500m. JC may be any combination of 2nd to 8th. KC may be any combination of 3rd to 8th
KC strong in Class 3. Should be 1st and 2nd in 800m and 1500m. JC may be any combination of 2nd to 8th.
In reply to Headley
Mark Miller is fast.Should sweep for JC.
In reply to RoyalDad
He may do a Chris Taylor.
200m, 400m, 4x100m and 4x400m.
In reply to Headley
Western Relays this weekend. KC usually show up here. Wonder what's the plan??
In reply to RoyalDad
This Saturday
Camperdown Classics at Stadium East
Western Relays (without Milo ) at GC Foster
In reply to mikesiva
It will be close. Not willing to make any bets at this time.
In reply to Headley
YouTube should have coverage to some degree.
In reply to RoyalDad
I believe Trackalerts will be showing the Western Relays on YouTube.
In reply to Headley
Hope all stay injury free.Our top guns in class 1 will be on show.
Both Francis's and NKrumie and Kerr.
In reply to Headley
Our top guns in class 1 will be on show.
Francis,Francis,Kerr and NKrumie.
Hope all stay injury free.
In reply to RoyalDad
It should be Youri Lawrence for Nicholas Francis.
Youri Lawrence is back. He ran 10. 71 in Class 2 last year before injury.
In reply to Headley
Saw some times today boys 4 x 100 Camperdown.
Jago
JC
CBar
All 40 and change.
KC ran at WR and did 41.27 without Lawrence and NKrumie. I think he is hurt.
JC 4 x 800 very strong.Unbeatable I would say.
In reply to RoyalDad
Good assessment. I agree.
Lawrence ran at Camperdown Classics today. Just like last week he just jogged the 100m. Seems like he is running under orders.
In reply to Headley
Was he in the race with Bryan Levell?
If that's the race,he sure was jogging.
In reply to Headley
Jago 4 x 1 finisher looks impressive,not to mention Edwin A Levell.
100 class 1 looks mouth watering.
Any promising Wolmers runner ?
In reply to RoyalDad
I think the youth from Jago may be Prince who was in the race with Levell and got injured.
Levell
Prince
Davidson
Graham
Francis
Bowajgie
those are men to watch
I don't know about Kerr. He may be better in the 200m.
In reply to bedydread
Graham and Card.
In reply to Headley
Hope NKrumie ok.
Kerr is indeed more suitable for the 200.
Did Levell drop a 10.21 last time at champs?
In reply to Headley
Thanks bro so few, how the mighty have fallen
In reply to RoyalDad
cosign. smooth.
In reply to RoyalDad
Levell came 5th with 10.73 at Champs in 2021. See below for post Champs 2021.
Feb 14 Gleaner
In reply to Headley
Different runner this year. Impressive so far.
Any news on NKrumie?
In reply to RoyalDad
No news. Looking to see who turns up this weekend.
In reply to Headley
Wade,Brown and ( Gordon) ? dominated at Stadium class 3 until CBar sent out Bramwell.
Class 2 athlete was also dominant.Dashawn Grant.
Our class 1 didn't impress.
In reply to RoyalDad
Branwell is a handful can't see anyone from KC beating him. Maybe Jago.
Flemmings of Maggoty looks good for first or second in the Class 3 boys 400m.
We have a better Class 1 than I expected. We have athletes who will take 2 of the top 4 spots in the 100m, 200m, 110mh and 400mh. Last year there were a lot of injuries. It seems the guys are not keen to go all out too early.
Praying Dushaun Grant stays healthy. He goes all out all the time. Last year he was injured.
In reply to Headley
Hunter in class 2 800 and 1500 very promising.
Ruto(sp) looks impressivein IN CLASS 3.
KIPROCK AND GAYLE IN CLASS 2 800 AND 1500.
I think we are holding back or under orders not to take things 100% as you say.
Saw this kid Ethan Giyoko leading most of the way until he gave way late in the 1500.
Bramwell was all out yesterday as if to make a statement.His final time was .10 better than Wade who seemed to have something left in reserve as he won easily.Could be interesting.Brown is quick out the blocks.
Gibson this weekend?? Maybe we will show our hand here.
In reply to RoyalDad
Giyoko looks unbeatable over 5,00m. Never seen him over 1500m. Not sure how good he is at that distance. He's so much ahead at 5,000 he should be good at 1500m
I am assuming the Henry twins will run 800m and 1500m.
Don't know who will run the steeplechase. Gianni Henry ran it recently.
The races at Gibson this Sat should tell a lot about the real state of the relay teams.
In reply to Headley
Several of the guys ran both the 800 and 1500. Dont know why.Hunter and Ruto.
Spencer ran the steeple.
Henry twins are solid though they both face tough battles.
They have included class 4 now at Gibson. Good move.
In reply to RoyalDad
Hunter and Kiproth
Gianni Henry ran the 800m and 3000m steeplechase and won both.
Coach must know his athletes because all the ones that doubled did well.
Ruto's 1500m Class 3 time was faster than the winning Class 2 time.
Yes the Class 4 youths don't get much opportunity to compete
In reply to Headley
As a matter of interest,do you know how many recruits we have from the big A?
If no,maybe we will see somemore or all this weekend.
Also,interesting to see if NKrumie runs.
In reply to RoyalDad
I don't know how many but about a month ago I had remarked generally that they could help our Jamaican athletes in the distance races.
I came across some information today that makes it even clearer to me.
In 1964 George Kerr did 1:45.9 in the semifinal at the Rome Olympics.
Last year 57 years later at our National Championships the 800m race to select athletes to go to the Olympics was won by Chevonne Hall a schoolboy. His time was 1:48.73
In reply to Headley
I don't know how many but about a month ago I had remarked generally that they could help our Jamaican athletes in the distance races.
pardon my intrusion on this KC thread. but i would be much obliged if you would clarify something for me. As you indicated above, you believe the imports could help improve jamaican athletes..you stated that earlier on the thread.
a few years ago, maybe four or five, in the midst of Calabars's 6 or 7 titles, i mentioned on this board that apart from some admin blunders, what i also noted from attending champs was that Calabar had recruited a class of "alpha males" that were kicking KC's ass. you took umbrage to me calling them alpha males saying the KC guys appeared soft. You mentioned that the athlete were still students and were young and spoke about pressure etc and said it was an unfair characterization... hopefully you recall that, i certainly do. you took umbrage to my saying Calabar had alphas and KC looked soft except for Shantamoi Brown i think his name was. not sure what ever became of him.
so is there no pressure etc on the local student athletes now due to the recruiting from Africa now? arent the local athletes not still students and young? o concern? is the youth and pressure now changed to "improving"? just curious.
In reply to rudebway
Please see below.
In 1964 George Kerr did 1:45.9 in the semifinal at the Rome Olympics.
Last year 57 years later at our National Championships the 800m race to select athletes to go to the Olympics was won by Chevonne Hall a schoolboy. His time was 1:48.73
In reply to Headley
Have to congratulate Edwin and JC on their record winning performances.
Mr. Prince 'single handedly' gave Jago the 4x100m and the 4x400m.
Will be interesting to see how JC, Excelsior and KC respond.
In reply to Headley
Yes indeed. The JC 4 x 800 stamped its class.Phenomenal performance.
And Mr Prince himself won the 4 x 100. Also set up nicely the 4 x 400.
Good show overall at Gibson. We will see how this all plays out come next month.
On the track I think KC has a slight edge over JC.Our depth will prevail.
Back to Mr. Prince.
Another Jago product.Flashbacks of J Blake. He is good.
In reply to RoyalDad
The Corporate Area Development Meet is on YouTube today and tomorrow.
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In reply to Headley
Been checking out even though at work.
NKrumie is back. Did not see his race though.
Bwoy,JC strong in distance races.
In reply to RoyalDad
He looked good but not smooth yet. Eased up at 95m.
The have a good programme and a good coach.
The have dorm facilities and they are able to run any time day or night at the track beside the dorm.
Let's see how it goes tomorrow.
In reply to Headley
NKrumie solid win today.Mechanics need some work still.The 100 final highly anticipated with Prince. Hear Levell not doing well.
Our young boys representing well at Corporate.
Wade nipped Bramwell in 100. Another battle royal for Champs.
I think champs is ours to lose. We are solid all around with depth to spare.
In reply to RoyalDad
I heard a youngster from Herbert Morriston ran 10.59 at the Western Champs. Not bad!
What are the dates for Champs?
In reply to RoyalDad
Bouwahjgie. 100m Class 1
Mark A. Miller. 100m Class 2
Wade/Bramwell 100m Class 3
Boo did 10.40 today. That should be 10.30 in the 7:30 pm conditions at Champs
In reply to mikesiva
Champs April 5 - 9
In reply to Headley
Fully agree here.
Our distance runners showed today.Ruto and Giyoko.
JC solid man.Trounced us in class 1 and 2 (4 x 100.)
Wade could give Bramwell a run for his money. Bramwell looks like an experienced runner. Technique very good.
Miller pulled up in 200.Hope he is OK.
Our jumpers rocking it also.
In reply to RoyalDad
JC has better distance runners. We're about even with sprinters. We have the edge with jumpers, hurdlers and throwers.
I am very optimistic.
In the meantime tomorrow Sat and Sun are Carifta Trial Days. Some events will be hot.
In reply to Headley
The girls at Carifta blazing it up.
Wow!!!
Just watch Carifta trials in Jamaica, our boys sprinting is back, very impressed especially since the major standouts are not from the major championship contenders, no over work issues.
As a Wolmerian I have to give special props to Gary Card, his upside looks promising, saw him walk out of the blocks and run 10.85, I suspect Mark Miller is going to have his hand full if he goes 100/200.
I hope Card is managed well, all being good he will be a monster in his second year in class 2, I just like his physique and height, he has more to grow, watch out.
In reply to bedydread
Yes there are some promising youngsters in the line up for tomorrow's final. The real question for me is not whether they can do 10.30. It's how soon they can go below 10.20.
I was expecting Mark Miller in second year Class 2 to be running faster than 10.92. I hope he has more to give.
Card will need to be careful next year. Bramwell and Wade are running 11.05 in class 3 right now. They do not look like short sprinters who benefit from fast turnover in Class 3 and do not show up in Class 2. Bramwell looks like he could be a beast. I hope Cbar do not put too much muscles on his frame.
Tip of the day: Keep your eye on Taj Marques White, first year Class 2 in the U17 400m.
In reply to Headley
Agree mostly with you analysis however This might sound strange but Bramwell looks to be very polished already, his form is great but I have seen a number of those types who amount to nothing, I tend to look for diamond in the rough type.
KC had a youth named Matherson several years ago that sprinted, who was sensational in his early years, I cant remember any youth looking as good as he did from class 3 and beyond since, I am sure most folks expected him to be a world beater by now, they are quite a few like him but he stood out to me because of his form and how effortless he made sprinting look.
Card has a whole lot of room for improvement in his start and form, not sure if he ran in class 3 but he looks like a late bloomer, I like those types, they are the ones who usually represent on the national stage.
In reply to Headley
Bramwell does indeed look like a beast. His form is almost perfect.Effortless turnover. Like the Poster says,reminds us of Matherson.
I understand they moved White from short sprinting to the 400.Now he is a beast.
Our class 1 400 runner came back with a bang. It's a wrap.
Things looking even better now.
In reply to bedydread
It depends a lot on the genetics, diet, the motivation, the school coach and the environment where the athlete transitions from youth to adult. I understand the concern you expressed.
Levell was goose stepping to 10.38 yesterday. He ran 10.21 last year so I would not be surprised if he runs a good time today.
In reply to RoyalDad
I did not even know Shaemar Utter was still at KC. This is the first time I have seen him run for the year. Last year he did sub 47 only once before Champs and did 46 plus in the semis and the finals.
His start was not as fast as it should be last year. It was obvious that he was working on starting faster and the coach was overheard telling him to do so. From what I saw yesterday it looks like he could run faster.
He will make the 4x400m team a serious gold medal prospect for Champs.
In reply to Headley
Yes,Uter ran big yesterday and the 400 hurdlers now make us even stronger in the 4 x 400 after their qualifying rounds today at Carifta.Forbes ran big with a 52 qual. Prince and company ..beware.
Will be watching Carifta today.
I like Levell progression over the years, he is coming into his own now, good youth for the future, I will say the same for the other youth (cant remember his name now ) who ran 10.31 yesterday wearing Red or Maroon Color.
Headley, regarding environment, history over the last 20 or so years shows it is also very important which environment ( school ) they are coming from, KC and Calabar transition rates are very poor to say the least, I know you guys are old boys but the fact speak for themselves, why is that so ? I would like to hear your take ?
In reply to bedydread
The environment/ transition rate per KC/ Calabar as opposed to the other schools is glaringly one sided to say the least. If
someone can pinpoint why,they would be a multimillionaire.The so called country school athletes who have gone on the rep.
Jamaica at the highest level is astounding.Someone else may have the answer,I surely dont.
In reply to RoyalDad
In days gone by when athletes used to do six or more events to maximize points folks used to attribute poor transition to overwork, since that has been addressed somewhat the transition has not improved, do we need to further reduce workload ? In my opinion the better correlation would be related to the development of the athlete as it relates to workload, the coaching at KC, JC and Cbar is geared to maximize performance to win champs which usually translate to many national representations at the junior level which means the athlete is constantly been trained / overworked over their junior years, very few can manage that workload and transition well to senior ranks.
Athletes whose development is gradual ( workload correlate with age ) where they start running well at a later stage in their junior age tend to go on to be better at the senior level, so coaching programmes I think play a major role combined with appropiate workload as a junior.
In reply to bedydread
I like sports. Some sports fans have all the answers. I am not one of those fans.
My background is in two disciplines. One of them is engineering. It makes me acutely conscious of what I know and what I don't.
Card ran a good race today. It should be between Miller and Card for the Class 2 100m at Champs.
In reply to Headley
Sir Headley dont sell yourself short , being a Engineer should mean you have an analytical mind on the way things work, I know you have an opinion, maybe you dont want to share but rather just enjoy the sport.
In reply to RoyalDad
Competition makes a big difference. Yesterday Uter went out hard. He was confident he was better than the field.
Today he went out too slowly. He entered the straight 3rd and had to work too hard.
When he gets confident he will go out hard and force the others to catch him.
The wind was also a factor today. It helped those who went down the backstretch hard and made it tough coming home.
In reply to Headley
Yes. And his conditioning may also be a bit short having only run couple times...I believe.
Rose and White dominated their section.
NKrumie did well.Again he blazed out the blocks and they caught him late.
Levell not winning was a surprise.Daley was good in his semi.Did not think he would follow up with that.Now we wait for Prince.
In reply to Headley
Tip of the day: Keep your eye on Taj Marques White, first year Class 2 in the U17 400m.
Sir Headley, young White look very good especially for a first year class 2.
I hope his race strategy was as a result of him being confident to win against weak competition, not recommended against stronger competition.
Jamaica boys Class One 100m times are getting slower, use to be around 10.6 to 10.15
In reply to jahmekyah
I suspect you are comparing apples with oranges. The times at CARIFTA Trials cannot be compared to Champs.
The preparation and atmosphere of competition is different at Champs. Even more important the wind before sunset at the stadium is known to blow east to west. At 7:00 pm on Friday night at Champs the wind is still or slight from the west.
That is why the 100m is always held at that time.
These same runners will be at least 0.1 sec faster at Champs.
In reply to RoyalDad
I watched the 100m race again. All Boo needs is more cassava in his diet to help him get through the last 30m.
As a St. Elizabeth man I am surprised his diet has not been adjusted as yet.
In reply to Headley
I stand to be corrected , you have put forth a cogent argument
In reply to jahmekyah
Thank you sir.
In reply to Headley
Rayon Campbell is a bad man. did you see that? 49.52
Lyston just drop a 22.66
In reply to Headley
Funny. Kerr ran very good. Send him some cassava too.
In reply to rudebway
Lyston vs the Clayton twins should be an interesting contest, don't you think?
In reply to mikesiva
very. they ducking each other now..not showng their hand. the 200 will be epic
In reply to RoyalDad
He needs a real start. He has too much work to do in the last 100m. Probably needs cornmeal porridge.
In reply to rudebway
Rayon is just plain ragged and consequently inconsistent. If he's not on his game Forbes who is the better hurdler but too conservative may beat him at Champs. Clarke was taken by surprise and responded well.
Great battle expected at Champs. Don't expect a repeat of CARIFTA Trials. These men and their coaches have gone back to the drawing boards. It's a chess game. Spy vs Spy.
In reply to mikesiva
22.66 is not interesting Mike. You need a different adjective.
Central Champs on at tv j.
In reply to archangel
Lyston just drop a 11.14 and beat Tia. love how she flash her hand and finger at the end.... to say "whip them." Alpha female. love it.
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In reply to rudebway
Just saw it. The flash time was 11.10. She was easing up at the line.
Lyston pulls out of finals. You all have to wait on Champs.
In reply to Headley
yes she ease up... she could go 11.05 probably. i will go on record that she faster than Kevona, she faster than Morrison. and she gonna cause problems for Brianna for that 4th spot
In reply to Headley
49.52. you realize how good that is?
In reply to rudebway
Ok Rudy dont get carried away with the beating Briana talk now, Lyston looks like she is fulfilling her early promise, great to see but Williams right now is on a another level ( sub 11 ).
In reply to rudebway
The other Brianna is too fast out the blocks and more proven to be beat by BL.
A challenge? Maybe.!!
High schoolers rarely can beat pros except for the great Jackie Pusey who put it on the great Polish athlete Irina Szewinska at the national stadium back in the day.
In reply to bedydread
Brianna Williams is not on another level
her best is 10.97 and she usually runs low 11. The big 3 are in another level. The 4th spot is not secure
kemba Nelson did 10.98 last year..there is inconsistent natasha Morrison who dropped a 10.87.. I dont view Briannia as a lock
btw..havent heard much about Ashanti moore this year..
In reply to RoyalDad
I agree
she might not beat Brianna but Brianna gonna have to run.. this reminds me of the great VCB in 2000 Australia.. I think vcb was doing 11.12 or somewhere around there as a class 1 vere athlete..I heard of Pusey but she was a bit before my time
In reply to rudebway
Cmon Rudy, Liston just did her PR and hopefully will continue to improve but you expect Williams to stay at 10.9 high, like Liston she will improve if you believe otherwise then I will say no more.
I say again Williams right now is at another level than Liston that does not mean she at Shelly, Elaine and Sherika Level, however all others are looking up at her now and she aint going nowhere especially in the 100.
In reply to bedydread
if you look closer at my earlier post at 6:15.... i said she was going to cause problems for Brianna for the 4th spot. i said CAUSE problem.... i never said beat.
you then wrote that i shouldnt get carried away about her beating Williams... i said cause problem...meaning she will give her a run for the money! i never said beat.
In reply to rudebway
Good and inconsistent. I hope he becomes more consistent not just in the result but the clearing of the hurdles.
Btw I have been watching him very closely since he used to do 800m in Class 3.
In reply to rudebway
Ok Rudy, I may not be that smart but I suspect that the only way she could cause problem for Williams was to beat her, but I guessed you meant test her, however you did go on to say they are on the same level so by that statement you would expect her to be able to beat her ( barring injuries). No worries they are both young athletes doing their thing and I wish both all the best, one swallow does not make a summer I would like to see some consistency from Liston before making any pronouncements.
Interesting changes at Champs 2022. 100m final to be run on Wed night among other changes.
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Jaheel Hyde and Anthony Cox
Check at 1:37
This is the bravery required to run the 400m
45:79 PB First sub 46 as far as I know.
In reply to Headley
Maybe he should just drop down to straight 400. He has the speed.
Saw where Grant got injured running 100. Big blow??
We look solid.
In reply to RoyalDad
That was Hyde's first sub 46 over 400m.
Grant is injury prone. His feet are not properly aligned. He should stick to the 200m. I could not believe it when I saw him trying to run the 200m and 400m at Carifta Trials.
He's either getting bad advice or he does not listen.
In reply to Headley
Truly unfortunate. Almost looked like he broke his leg.
In reply to RoyalDad
I have been watching Taj Marques White who is first year Class 2 and he looks like the man who could get closest to Christopher Taylor's 46.33 Class 2 record. I suspect based on the ease with which he is running 48.30 that he could go sub 47 at Champs. It is rare to see a youth in any class who wins a 400m with high knees and shows no sign of distress.
Mark Anthony Miller is still in Class 2 this year. He ran 47.35 last year. It is not clear to me that MAM is as much faster as I was expecting him to be. He has not grown much taller.
It should be an interesting match up with White. Rose is also running well but I suspect he has a BMI issue which is affecting his ability to finish quickly.
In reply to Headley
White is solid talent.He waits,and then pounces.I agree with him closing in on Taylor's standard class 2 mark.However,it will be a challenge. But he is 1st year class 2 so not too far off.
Rose should improve. Very good back up to White. We haven't had this tandem since Jahman Henry and Stapleton.Maybe I'm wrong,and overly too optmistic.
This gots to be best champs in decades,for example, to be fourth in class 1 girls 100 will be quite an accomplishment.
In reply to FanAttick
Good post. Soon Oblique will go sub 10. That will be acute.
In reply to camos
You just may be right. I expect some fast times from Girls and Boys across all classes. Class 2 Girls and Boys could be special.
Everyone is talking about the Claytons and Lyston. Put a little money on Kerrica Hill to do something special in Class 2.
In reply to Headley
Edwin Allen to win the Girls?
In reply to mikesiva
They are strong favs.
In reply to mikesiva
Put your house and car on it.
Don't put more than 10 quid on JC to win the boys.
In reply to Headley
Good so far. No injuries.
any surprises on opening day?
In reply to camos
Daley looks like he's injured.
JC having so many issues already.
In reply to Headley
where yuh lived in Hillaby or Tunapuna
In reply to RoyalDad
Any online site to watch,you probably at Stadium by this?
In reply to camos
Only Pay Per View.
Card from Wolmers
In reply to mikesiva
Certainty.
In reply to RoyalDad
I am more convinced than ever that this year the MG Cup will return to its rightful place at North Street. We just need to collect the hurdles points.
In reply to rudebway
I think the sportscaster who predicts an 11:95 may be right. The U20 World Champ is going to get beaten, her sister too.
In reply to Headley
After eight finals
KC - 68
JC - 51
St Jago - 28
What's happened to Calabar?
In reply to mikesiva
KC 83
JC 53
In reply to Headley
I join you in saying the trophy is back in its rightful place.
I did not know that our team was this deep.
Unfortunate for NKrumie with the stumble.Jeevan ran lights out.
In reply to mikesiva
Check C-Bar at close tomorrow and then again on Saturday night.
They will not win but... your question will be answered. In fact, when they were in their ackee they never sparked until around the third day. This year they are without their speedsters and are getting points from relays, middle distance and field events.
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I always wonder why Kingston boys dominate Champs but the country girls rule.
In reply to nitro
Because its not the Kingston boys but the Kingston boys schools and the reason is they recruit any talented youth from the country schools once identified in class 3 and sometimes class 2. Now a days they recruiting kids from other Caribbean islands and to my surprise Africa ( Kenya ).
Personally if it serves the greater good for Jamaican athletes in general at the senior level then I have no problem with it, including helping to develop our fellow Caribbean brothers and sisters, the jury is still out on the African benefits, time will tell if our distance running show progress because I am sure compared to Africa Jamaica is no hot bed for distance running.
In reply to nitro
Girls
Edwin Allen 123
Hydel 83
St Jago 82
Boys
KC 131
JC 94
Calabar 53
In reply to bedydread
Have you ever seen an athlete who is well at the back leaning at the tape?
In reply to nitro
coached!
Big points in the steeple with a win from Captain Gianni.
Big points in the 400mh Class 1 with a second and a third.
Big points in the polevault with a win.
Big points anticipated from the World Leader in the Class 1 Triple Jump.
Big points add up to a BIG WINNING TOTAL.
In reply to nitro
you is a joker, no sir never see that happen.
In reply to Headley
Boys
KC - 201
JC - 138
Calabar - 78
Girls
Edwin Allen - 175
Hydel - 127
St Jago - 109
In reply to mikesiva
They say you're not as good as you think you are when you're winning.
This would be a good time for KC to emulate JC and focus on making our distance programme better.
In reply to RoyalDad
Yes very unfortunate. I hope he can find a good local programme. I am not big on the US colleges for our sprinters.
Hope Newby has another year in school.
Congrats KC - cannot be caught
In reply to Chrissy
Thank you sis. Fortis.
In reply to Headley
Mi haffi say dat di Irie FM newscaster should have heard di name Maggoty so often these past few days that she will never again call it Muh got e. Well done country schools
In reply to Headley
Back to its rightful place.
Fortis.
In reply to RoyalDad
Congratulations to KC on winning the Boys with 372 points!
JC 300
Calabar 172
Congratulations to Edwin Allen on winning the Girls with 352 points!
Hydel 295
St Jago 249
Lyston and Clayton were outstanding!
Brianna Lyston 22.53 in the Girls Class 1 200m.
Class 1 100m
Tina Clayton 11.23 - gold
Lyston 11.26 - silver
Tia Clayton 11.43 - bronze
In reply to mikesiva
Great Champs this year
CARIFTA next week
In reply to RoyalDad
Have you seen the video of Mr Robinson the JC headmaster posing with the MG Trophy last year and declaring that he was going to lock it away with the Manning Cup and they would not be seen again?
When asked about the chance of his rivals getting them back he responded:
"Dem Dead"
Now I am happy to report that both are in their rightful place at 2A North Street.
In reply to mikesiva
Thanks for the good competition. We will rejoin next year.
In reply to Headley
Congrats to the purple and white
btw, your jumpers, both long and high jump were boss. I think the class 2 guy skipped the lower heights and opened at 1.95. Broke the champs record. I think he can make 2.15. KC brings the vibes to champs. But I must admit 100 on a Wednesday was a bit weird. Bleachers were pretty empty on Saturday. Not sure if it is still the hangover from Covid but KC showed up, JC calabar and jago did not. You guys even had cheer leaders
I dont know what to make of this:
Record number of Champs points earned by foreign athletes
In reply to FanAttick
Lots of talk about this.
Came across this on youtube:
The Ugly Side of Champs.
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In reply to rudebway
Aaron Mc Kensie has been unbeaten after 3 years at Champs. This season he always started at 1.95 m
Yes the number of girls attending KC is a lot higher than it used to be.
In reply to FanAttick
In 1964 George Kerr did 1:45.9 in the semifinal at the Rome Olympics.
Last year 57 years later at our National Championships the 800m race to select athletes to go to the Olympics was won by Chevonne Hall a schoolboy. His time was 1:48.73
In reply to FanAttick
It is what it is.
KC uses all allowable means to achieve success at Champs.You can say it is better planning.
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