Will be indicted and a strong possibility to go to prison, I suspect he may plea bargain and promise to leave the political stage to avoid same.
I hope they don’t give him a break.
I hope they don’t give him a break.
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bedydread
Joined: Jan 6, 2006Posts: 1694 6/28/22, 4:33:02 PM
nitro
Joined: Apr 9, 2003Posts: 15971 6/28/22, 4:57:55 PM
In reply to bedydread
I would hope so but why are you so confident?
I would hope so but why are you so confident?
bedydread
Joined: Jan 6, 2006Posts: 1694 6/28/22, 5:44:15 PM
In reply to nitro
The first hand testimony of aide showing his state of mind and intention on Jan 6 combined with the fact that he knew he was doing something illegal as per White House counsel, not to mention Rudy and Meadows asking for pardon, they all knew they were breaking the law ( obstructing congress ) at least sedition at worst.
The first hand testimony of aide showing his state of mind and intention on Jan 6 combined with the fact that he knew he was doing something illegal as per White House counsel, not to mention Rudy and Meadows asking for pardon, they all knew they were breaking the law ( obstructing congress ) at least sedition at worst.
Brerzerk
Joined: Mar 15, 2021Posts: 5631 6/28/22, 6:07:17 PM
No EX-US President will be jailed. Crimes and sentencing doesn't remove his secret service privilege.
House arrest won't mean much except he can't leave Mar-a-Lago
House arrest won't mean much except he can't leave Mar-a-Lago
nitro
Joined: Apr 9, 2003Posts: 15971 6/28/22, 6:14:09 PM
In reply to bedydread
I am not a lawyer but 'first hand' seems a stretch given she gleaned information from others, not Trump.
I am not a lawyer but 'first hand' seems a stretch given she gleaned information from others, not Trump.
black
Joined: Feb 27, 2004Posts: 44914 6/28/22, 6:25:48 PM
In reply to Brerzerk
Where did you get that from?
Where is the precedent?
Where did you get that from?
Where is the precedent?
bedydread
Joined: Jan 6, 2006Posts: 1694 6/28/22, 6:29:17 PM
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Her testimony can be collaborated by others, taking the 5th in court is not a good option and by the way first hand testimony send nuff people to prison, she comes across credible and I am confident a jury will find her the same, no amount of spin can change what is coming.
Her testimony can be collaborated by others, taking the 5th in court is not a good option and by the way first hand testimony send nuff people to prison, she comes across credible and I am confident a jury will find her the same, no amount of spin can change what is coming.
bedydread
Joined: Jan 6, 2006Posts: 1694 6/28/22, 6:31:50 PM
In reply to nitro
Oh, you mixing up first hand and hear say, hear say can always be corroborated, first hand is very credible in the court of law and elsewhere.
Oh, you mixing up first hand and hear say, hear say can always be corroborated, first hand is very credible in the court of law and elsewhere.
Brerzerk
Joined: Mar 15, 2021Posts: 5631 6/28/22, 6:41:13 PM
In reply to black
when you give me the precedent of a US President going to jail fuh anything at all I'll tell you.
Do you think secret service will be in jail with Trump? Do you believe a law or exec order will be
effected to remove secret service protection from an ex prez even a criminal one?
when you give me the precedent of a US President going to jail fuh anything at all I'll tell you.
Do you think secret service will be in jail with Trump? Do you believe a law or exec order will be
effected to remove secret service protection from an ex prez even a criminal one?
black
Joined: Feb 27, 2004Posts: 44914 6/28/22, 6:44:34 PM
In reply to Brerzerk
No precedent for or against.
What is wrong with the secret service sitting outside his cell?
That is minor bullshit that can be worked out.
No precedent for or against.
What is wrong with the secret service sitting outside his cell?
That is minor bullshit that can be worked out.
sudden
Joined: Nov 26, 2006Posts: 48837 6/28/22, 6:59:25 PM
In reply to black
De Precedent says he doesn’t know this low level staffer. Never seen her before. She knows nothing about what went on. She is a phony and leaker. She tried to go with his other staff to Florida after he served his full term but he said no. If she was so angry why did she try to go to Florida.
De Precedent is not an untruthful person
De Precedent says he doesn’t know this low level staffer. Never seen her before. She knows nothing about what went on. She is a phony and leaker. She tried to go with his other staff to Florida after he served his full term but he said no. If she was so angry why did she try to go to Florida.
De Precedent is not an untruthful person
black
Joined: Feb 27, 2004Posts: 44914 6/28/22, 7:03:53 PM
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That is his favorite line but it doesn't matter this time.
That is his favorite line but it doesn't matter this time.
VIX
Joined: Feb 6, 2003Posts: 15425 6/28/22, 7:09:47 PM
The backroom prognosticators have a 100% record when it comes to Trump predictions.
100% wrong!
Good luck!
100% wrong!
Good luck!
sudden
Joined: Nov 26, 2006Posts: 48837 6/28/22, 7:17:54 PM
In reply to VIX
Name and Shame them nuh
Name and Shame them nuh
Brerzerk
Joined: Mar 15, 2021Posts: 5631 6/28/22, 7:19:08 PM
In reply to black
We live in hope, I just don't see it happening, maybe I'm wrong. Will he eat and exercise separately?
We live in hope, I just don't see it happening, maybe I'm wrong. Will he eat and exercise separately?
VIX
Joined: Feb 6, 2003Posts: 15425 6/28/22, 7:20:39 PM
In reply to sudden
dem shameless
and shameful
dem shameless
and shameful
hotarobin
Joined: May 30, 2006Posts: 12029 6/28/22, 7:23:21 PM
sadly this will probably make Trump more popular and achieve the exact opposite of what is intended..America is the land of the upside down..
sudden
Joined: Nov 26, 2006Posts: 48837 6/28/22, 7:24:17 PM
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Why would it make him more popular
Why would it make him more popular
black
Joined: Feb 27, 2004Posts: 44914 6/28/22, 7:41:50 PM
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None of that matters, this is about criminal conduct.
None of that matters, this is about criminal conduct.
VIX
Joined: Feb 6, 2003Posts: 15425 6/28/22, 8:37:17 PM
In reply to hotarobin
You got that right! Nothing will sway the Trump crazies.
This kangaroo court is only reinforcing their resolve. It will take only an additional sliver of great murca's electorate to hand Trump a 2nd term!
A demented confused current pruhzedent ent helping
You got that right! Nothing will sway the Trump crazies.
This kangaroo court is only reinforcing their resolve. It will take only an additional sliver of great murca's electorate to hand Trump a 2nd term!
A demented confused current pruhzedent ent helping
Commie
Joined: Nov 12, 2002Posts: 37490 6/28/22, 10:15:43 PM
In reply to VIX
Trump 'wins' either way. Lets face it, the Dems want to stop him from running again, primarily because they know he will likely win under the Electoral College system they have.
Therefore it isnt a conspiracy if its true
If they do use the courts to bog him down and visibly fail, he will come out like teflon Don and roll to a win (or at least dominate the media). If they manage to stop him, someone infinitely more dangerous, like a Ron DeSantis or Tom Cotton will emerge and they will crush the Dems even more completely.
Fun times ahead.
Trump 'wins' either way. Lets face it, the Dems want to stop him from running again, primarily because they know he will likely win under the Electoral College system they have.
Therefore it isnt a conspiracy if its true
If they do use the courts to bog him down and visibly fail, he will come out like teflon Don and roll to a win (or at least dominate the media). If they manage to stop him, someone infinitely more dangerous, like a Ron DeSantis or Tom Cotton will emerge and they will crush the Dems even more completely.
Fun times ahead.
hotarobin
Joined: May 30, 2006Posts: 12029 6/28/22, 11:27:39 PM
In reply to sudden
you focused on the wrong part...I also said America is the land of the upside down..
Why would it make him more popular
you focused on the wrong part...I also said America is the land of the upside down..
hubert
Joined: Nov 13, 2002Posts: 16268 6/29/22, 9:37:05 AM
In reply to Commie
De Santis is in my view far more dangerous than Trump.
More than a nightmare if he ever becomes President of the USA.
De Santis is in my view far more dangerous than Trump.
More than a nightmare if he ever becomes President of the USA.
Dukes
Joined: Dec 5, 2002Posts: 43986 6/29/22, 9:54:23 AM
In reply to Brerzerk
You can not make a blanket statement like that.Not even Nixon did some of these egregious things that this fool did.The country is much less deferential to powerful people now and despite the fact that he has gotten away with a lot of things, he will soon run out of "lives".
No EX-US President will be jailed.
You can not make a blanket statement like that.Not even Nixon did some of these egregious things that this fool did.The country is much less deferential to powerful people now and despite the fact that he has gotten away with a lot of things, he will soon run out of "lives".
WI_cricfan
Joined: Oct 11, 2006Posts: 11244 6/29/22, 9:54:58 AM
In reply to bedydread
what took you so long????
I now believe Trump.
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what took you so long????
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