Monica Lewinsky weighs in on Ken Starr's death: 'I imagine it's painful loss for those who love him'
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'I imagine it's painful loss for those who love him'
2022-09-15 11:03:14
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2022-09-15 11:50:19
In reply to birdseye
Interesting that Ken Starr said he regrets the Investigation of Lewinsky.
One of the things I strongly believe in because it was part of my former profession is FIRST DO NO HARM.
Ken Starr belatedly recognized that he broke that fundamental rule against a 22 year old young woman.
2022-09-15 13:01:48
In reply to birdseye
very nice summary by the lady.
2022-09-15 13:42:59
In reply to birdseye
I didn't know he had died. Here is a guy that vigorously pursued 2 people in consensual relationship but did very little to help the students at Baylor University that were sexually assaulted.
2022-09-15 14:11:55
In reply to Dukes
Interesting that Ken Starr said he regrets the Investigation of Lewinsky.
Regret is a slippery word. One can regret the way something happened, but not that it happened. Or one can regret that something had to happen.
The scandal centred on Mr Clinton's attempt to cover up his relationship with Ms Lewinsky, and the impeachment charges stemmed from his false denial of the relationship in his 1998 grand jury testimony and in a deposition in a sexual harassment case filed against him by Paula Jones of Arkansas, where Mr Clinton had been governor.
Among the report's revelations were that Ms Lewinsky "performed oral sex on the president" and that the president "fondled and kissed her bare breasts".
On December 19, 1998, the US House of Representatives voted to impeach Mr Clinton.
A subsequent Senate trial failed to remove him from office.
In 2018 Mr Starr expressed some regret for his handling of the scandal, saying it had caused "pain" but saying it "had to be done".
Among the report's revelations were that Ms Lewinsky "performed oral sex on the president" and that the president "fondled and kissed her bare breasts".
On December 19, 1998, the US House of Representatives voted to impeach Mr Clinton.
A subsequent Senate trial failed to remove him from office.
In 2018 Mr Starr expressed some regret for his handling of the scandal, saying it had caused "pain" but saying it "had to be done".
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2022-09-15 14:32:00
In reply to KTom
Regret is a slippery word. One can regret the way something happened, but not that it happened. Or one can regret that something had to happen.
He regretted getting a hard on when he heard about the President getting a blow job from an intern and having to explain said hard on to his imaginary friend Jesus.
2022-09-15 14:35:38
In reply to SnoopDog
2022-09-15 14:42:47
In reply to black
Here is a guy that vigorously pursued 2 people in consensual relationship but did very little to help the students at Baylor University that were sexually assaulted.
He wasn't pursuing Clinton for a consensual relationship, but for denying that relationship under oath.
Who were these students at Baylor and why was it Starr's concern?
2022-09-15 14:51:28
Yeah he made his name and bolstered his reputation. Bet he didn't have any regrets about that.
Just to tell you the hypocrisy of these guys, he pursued Clinton for getting a BJ but defended Trump and all the lies he told,...
2022-09-15 14:55:36
In reply to carl0002
Starr was an evangelical bible thumping nutjub.
2022-09-15 15:00:25
In reply to birdseye
Backroom misfits in a frenzy!
If it were Trump he prosecuted, the misfits would've been calling him the greatest lawyer in murcan history.
Wurrll history.
Not dissimilar to when folks here were bawling Avenatti for president!
Misfits, extricate yourselves from the partisan, one-dimensional bubble you're trapped in.
anyway...
#Murcan problems.
2022-09-15 15:07:08
In reply to carl0002
By that time, he had already made his name. Clearly he was an outstanding jurist.
After he graduated from law school, Starr was a law clerk to judge David W. Dyer of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit from 1973 to 1974.[16] From 1975 to 1977, he clerked for chief justice Warren Burger of the U.S. Supreme Court.[16]
In 1977, Starr joined the Washington, D.C., office of the Los Angeles–based law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher (now Gibson Dunn).[22] In 1981 he was appointed counselor to U.S. attorney general William French Smith.[16]
Federal judge and solicitor general
On September 13, 1983, he was nominated by Ronald Reagan to a seat on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit vacated by George MacKinnon. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on September 20, 1983, and received his commission on September 20, 1983. His service terminated on May 26, 1989, due to resignation.[23]
Starr was the United States solicitor general, from 1989 to 1993, under George H. W. Bush.
In 1977, Starr joined the Washington, D.C., office of the Los Angeles–based law firm Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher (now Gibson Dunn).[22] In 1981 he was appointed counselor to U.S. attorney general William French Smith.[16]
Federal judge and solicitor general
On September 13, 1983, he was nominated by Ronald Reagan to a seat on the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit vacated by George MacKinnon. He was confirmed by the United States Senate on September 20, 1983, and received his commission on September 20, 1983. His service terminated on May 26, 1989, due to resignation.[23]
Starr was the United States solicitor general, from 1989 to 1993, under George H. W. Bush.
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but defended Trump and all the lies he told,...
He defended Trump as his client. That's his job. With Clinton, he was the prosecutor. Different strokes for different folks.
2022-09-15 15:10:23
In reply to VIX
Misfits, extricate yourselves from the partisan, one-dimensional bubble you're trapped in.
How bout you extricate your dumbass from the basement and finally lose your virginity...to a mechanical bull.
2022-09-15 15:12:19
In reply to KTom
He wasn't pursuing Clinton for a consensual relationship, but for denying that relationship under oath
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The relationship itself was not a crime, the lie was but he pursued it for political reasons.
Who were these students at Baylor and why was it Starr's concern?
Look it up.
I live in Texas.
2022-09-15 15:15:18
In reply to black
I recall that the bible thumpers at Baylor fired his ass and he left in disgrace.
2022-09-15 15:26:55
In reply to SnoopDog
Correct
2022-09-15 15:32:11
In reply to black
The relationship itself was not a crime, the lie was but he pursued it for political reasons.
Political sympathies aside, he was professionally appointed to the role. It wasn't a personal vendetta. Do you imagine that another appointee wouldn't have followed the same playbook?
Also recall that Starr took part in investigating Clinton over the Whitewater affair and the Vince Foster death. Foster's death was adjudged a suicide and nothing came of the Whitewater allegations (which doesn't mean, of course, that they weren't true, in whole or in part).
2022-09-15 15:41:08
In reply to KTom
Political sympathies aside.... It wasn't a personal vendetta.
You might want to untangle yourself from your own contradictions.
His personal crusade to impeach Clinton had entirely to do with his political sympathies and self righteousness.
2022-09-15 15:43:06
In reply to SnoopDog
How were the people who appointed Starr aware of this personal crusade?
2022-09-15 21:55:45
In reply to KTom
How were the people who appointed Starr aware of this personal crusade?
You really believed Star lived in a vacuum, don’t you have a “reasonable” idea of the thinking’s of most of your acquaintances?
2022-09-16 00:23:19
In reply to SnoopDog
How bout you extricate your dumbass from the basement and finally lose your virginity...to a mechanical bull.
VIX....
2022-09-16 07:49:51
In reply to birdseye
The point I'm making is that when Starr was first appointed in 1994 by a panel of judges, it wasn't done because he was widely known to be on a crusade against Clinton. That he stayed on the case(s) for four years, one could argue that it became a vendetta/obsession, but one could equally suppose him to be a man of diligence and integrity doing a difficult job, and that four years was actually a relatively modest time when dealing with such a slippery/shady/sleazy character as Clinton.
2022-09-16 09:51:40
In reply to KTom
He defended Trump as his client. That's his job.
Was he appointed by the court and/or did not have the option to decline?
Accused are entitled to legal representation so as a lawyer it is your duty to represent any and everyone. But that representation does not mean you have to lie.
Who were these students at Baylor and why was it Starr's concern?
Also you ducked the Baylor University scandal.
So to the why was it Starr's concern I would like to hear more now
2022-09-16 14:13:04
In reply to KTom
In defending Trump, Starr also claimed he was wrong to have called for impeachment against Clinton for abuse of executive privilege and efforts to obstruct Congress and also stated that the House Judiciary Committee was right in 1998 to have rejected one of the planks for impeachment he had advocated for.[70] He also invoked a 1999 Hofstra Law Review article by Yale law professor Akhil Amar, who argued that the Clinton impeachment proved just how impeachment and removal causes "grave disruption" to a national election.[70] Starr was called as a witness by Sen. Ron Johnson on a senate hearing concerning electoral fraud amidst Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 United States presidential election.[71] When Trump was impeached for a second time in 2021, Starr condemned the impeachment as "dangerous" and "unconstitutional".[72]
The above shows the hypocrisy, disingenuous and clearly dishonest nature of the man.
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