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Dukes 2022-10-23 11:34:58 

I know the header would attract non-Jamaicans who might feel that the Dukester is posting porn on a Sunday morning but Jamaicans would know that this African meal which we from Guyana call CONKEY and usually eat on Emancipation Day on August 1st is cornmeal based food wrapped in a banana leaf. Yes I was in Aeolus Valley in St. Thomas yesterday having a fantastic meal consisting of the above mentioned delicacy along with green banana ,ackee,callaloo,yam,sweet potato and the coup de grace ROAST BREADFRUIT!!!. GJFA visited our adopted school, the Aeolus Valley All-Age School where we witnessed some wonderful performances by the children of the school including the singing of their school song.We are unaware of any other primary school in Jamaica with a school song.

On Friday we took part in the launch ceremony for the adoption of the Rollington Town Health Center in Kingston.

BTW JAMAICA SWEET BAAAAD!!!!!!

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol


OOPS
BACKROOM PLEASE

 
Walco 2022-10-23 12:30:11 

In reply to Dukes
That food had to be great for you to drive on those bad roads in St. Thomas. By the way, my conkies (blue drawers) not bad at all smile

 
Dukes 2022-10-23 12:36:56 

In reply to Walco

Roads were terrible but hopefully will soon get significantly better.I forgot to mention,June Plum Drink which Guyanese call Golden Apple drink.

lol lol

 
Narper 2022-10-23 12:42:04 

In reply to Dukes

CONKEY

It's called PAYMEE in Tittieland.

I believe when meat is added its called Pastelle

 
Curtis 2022-10-23 12:42:37 

While you there, scout for a young country speedster to make WI team.

 
Walco 2022-10-23 12:44:30 

In reply to Dukes
I swear Guyana and Barbados are connected at the hip. We call it golden apple also smile I’m heading back to St Thomas this morning and then back to Florida tomorrow

 
openning 2022-10-23 13:03:52 

In reply to Narper

I believe when meat is added its called Pastelle

Meat with Cookie?

 
Drapsey 2022-10-23 13:14:24 

In reply to Dukes

BLUE DRAWERS

Also known in my neck of the woods as bumfurrow (sp), and tie-a-leaf.

 
sudden 2022-10-23 13:17:27 

In reply to Walco

You have to know that Guyana was a Bim outpost. I would bet you have relatives there

 
Halliwell 2022-10-23 14:08:30 

In reply to Narper

Hold on

Is Paymee??? That is wat Dukes and culpepper does make so much noise about??
Paymee??!!

Hahahahahahaha! I expected better big grin big grin big grin

 
Raskil 2022-10-23 15:11:27 

Hot Tamales in Venezuela

I’ve seen boiled eggs, meat...amongst slight variations as stuffing.

Delicious!!!

 
StumpCam 2022-10-23 15:52:10 

In reply to Narper


I believe when meat is added its called Pastelle


That is what it is known as in Puerto Rico.

 
Maispwi 2022-10-23 16:54:40 

Ducuna anyone?

 
Chrissy 2022-10-23 18:42:46 

In reply to Dukes

I had roast breadfruit for breakfast this morning along with brown stew chicken with pacchoy and of course avocado.

Enjoy di good food.
And yes tangerines and ortaniques are back.
By the way mi ave mi own Gleaner fi dat lovely story
lol lol

 
Chrissy 2022-10-23 18:46:14 

In reply to Walco
Of course - my paternal grandma was Bajan and my maternal grandfather was Bajan.
Di old folks who used to refer to demselves as the 13 families in New Amsterdam were mostly Bajans or at least one partner was from Bim. A few were Vincey Black Caribs or from Antigua.

 
Chrissy 2022-10-23 18:47:43 

In reply to Dukes

June plum now bears in September and October

lol

 
JayMor 2022-10-23 20:30:39 

In reply to Maispwi

Ducuna anyone?
Absolutely! Or almost absolutely anyway. LOL. Our name in my neck of the woods is 'docunu/dokunu' (that's from the original Twi 'dokono'). 'Banana tie-a-leaf' is also an alternative name in my area.

In reply to Drapsey
Boss, "bumfurrow"?? Yuh mean the 3 miles or so made that much difference? I never heard that at all.

--Æ.

 
camos 2022-10-23 20:49:11 

lol lol primary school lunch!

 
Brerzerk 2022-10-23 21:52:56 

The Ghanain Name is Duckunu also used in JA. Blue Drawers, Tie-a-Leaf...never heard Drapsey's name. Dukes has reminded me of my maternal Grandma who would add a dash of rum or port, raisins and 'coc'nut milk' to hers. SWEET SUH, woooieeeee.

 
Brerzerk 2022-10-23 22:01:58 

Weston Haughton always told this joke. He had set up the decorations for a buffet at Kings House and trying to be 'stush' and proper he invited Sir Florizel to try the (er, clean throat) 'Duckuunu' Sir?' Glasspole very loudly 'Oh you mean BLUE DRAWERS, WHE IT DEH?'
lol lol

 
Chrissy 2022-10-23 22:44:58 

In reply to Brerzerk

lol lol lol

 
birdseye 2022-10-23 23:35:58 

In reply to Dukes

Sounds like an awesome meal… Blue Drawers, man I haven’t tasted that since I left St Ann donkey years ago. Use to love it though. My aunt used to put Raisins in her cornmeal mix.

 
DonD 2022-10-24 01:15:42 

Never heard of Blue Drawers. Drawers sound a little too sanitary. The proper pronunciation is DRAAS strong emphasis on the A. Children were forbidden to say blue draas. Tie-a-leaf was more acceptable. Dukunu or Duff was a different meal. This was made from cassava ... bitter cassava grated and properly dried so as to extract the poisonous juice, then mixed with coconut milk and the grated dried coconut, add sugar etc. Best cooked in a Dutch pot.

 
Headley 2022-10-24 01:22:06 

In reply to Brerzerk

Tie a leaf, blue drawers and dukunu are all known but the most popular name in Eastern St Thomas when I was a boy was boyo. My investigation says boyo is corrupted Spanish for a verb to wrap.

Boyo can 'have in' pumpkin, sweet potato even plantain in addition to the cornmeal. Raisins are a source of contention for 50 % of the consumers.

I met a chick from Panama some years ago in Florida. I was very excited when she offered to bring me dukunu. It turned out it was a delicacy filled with meat (sure about chicken) cooked in cornmeal and steamed in banana leaves.

 
birdseye 2022-10-24 01:30:40 

In reply to DonD
I kind a had my misgivings about the “DRAWERS” spelling, I thing your spelling captured the phonetic essence of the spoken word

 
Ayenmol 2022-10-24 03:00:19 

In reply to Maispwi

Ducuna? Ducuna? All the time the man talking conkie conkie conkie i think is some kinna confectionary...
Ducuna? Man, steeeeuuuupppss to high heaven.
Ducuna?
Yuck.
And worse yet, without meat?

And they doh have the decency to explain what they talking bout in honor of the diversity in the region.

Thanks for the clarification finally.

Ducuna? Please.

 
ponderiver 2022-10-24 06:51:11 

My Ghanaian neighbour was shocked when I called it Dukunoo they called it by the same name and it looked exactly like ours except ours is sweet and theirs is not
It was more like boiled dumplings wrapped in banana leaf, incidentally, they use the same word for an Owl as we do in Jamaica.
In Jamaica we call an owl a Patoo

 
culpepperboy 2022-10-24 09:37:03 

This is a fake Conkie thread!!! cool

 
Walco 2022-10-24 20:50:39 

In reply to Dukes

Bajan Conkies Recipe
•4 cups corn flour
• 1 cup all purpose flour
• 2 cups grated coconut
•1 ½ pound grated pumpkin
• 1 pound grated sweet potato
• 12 ozs. melted butter or margarine
•2 cups water
•1 ½ pounds brown sugar
•8 ozs. raisins
• 2 tsps. allspice
• 2 tsps. almond essence
• 2 tsps. grated nutmeg
• Fresh Banana leaves
Mix the coconut, pumpkin, sweet potato, sugar, spices,
raisins, flour, corn flour, and salt together in a large bowl.

Add the beaten egg, melted butter/margarine, and milk.
Mix thoroughly by hand to combine. You should have a
thick mixture that drops slowly from a spoon. Add more
flour if the mixture is not thick enough; add a bit more
milk if it is too thick.

Fresh green Banana leaves are traditionally used to wrap
the conkie mixture. If you have these, strip leaves from
stalk with a sharp knife then briefly singe them over an
open flame to make them more pliable. Cut the leaves
into individual 8" squares.

Spoon 2 to 3 tablespoons of the mixture into the centre of
the banana leaf. Fold the leaf around the mixture, taking
care not to rip the leaf.

Steam the conkies on a rack over boiling water in a large
saucepan for 1 hour or until they are firm

 
Walco 2022-10-24 20:50:40 

Duplicate

 
culpepperboy 2022-10-25 09:20:38 

In reply to Walco


Duplicate


Yes.You should always duplicate conkie production.
cool

 
openning 2022-10-25 11:05:49 

In reply to culpepperboy

lol lol

 
StumpCam 2022-10-25 11:05:58 

In reply to Walco

Haven’t had conkie in ages, however I don’t remember my mother adding any flour to her recipe! wink

 
Walco 2022-10-25 12:18:43 

In reply to StumpCam

Bajans put flour in everything. Even cassava pone smile

 
camos 2022-10-25 12:47:14 

In reply to Walco

flour is the bonding agent!

 
Walco 2022-10-25 13:58:21 

In reply to camos
seems like my boy camos knows his way around the kitchen smile The sweet potato is also a bonding agent, but the white sweet potato, not the yellow. I learned that lesson the hard way

 
Ewart 2022-10-25 14:32:07 

In reply to DonD

You got that right, my Don. No Blue Drawers, Blue Draas.

However, it seems to me that it could be a derivation of drawers.

As we know the banana leaf is green. But after the delicacy is cooked, the leaf presents a bluish hue. So it is a matter of the meal drawing a blue hue from the previously green leaf.

Or so it seems to me. wink


But.... Aeolus Valley, Dukes? That is deep country, boy. Congratulations!


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FuzzyWuzzy 2022-10-25 15:16:24 

In reply to Walco

Bajans put flour in everything.
...and sugar big grin

 
granite 2022-10-25 16:58:35 

Blue Kinckers !!! lol

 
Dukes 2022-10-25 17:08:57 

In reply to Ewart

ALL CHILDREN can excel and thrive and DESERVE a top class opportunity and we feel strongly about that.Our school in Guyana is similarly situated and we have absolutely transformed the village!!

 
Brerzerk 2022-10-25 18:15:28 

In reply to DonD
hahahaha Right Sir Don, I think mere OR mere mortals like me n the others lacked the erudition of the great 'Patwah langwich' to have spelt it correctly. Yes Sah! I have never heard of Boyo before! And when CulP wrote of CONKIE I always thought he was talking about Conch. You live and learn. Starting tertiary education in JA was when I first realized there were at least 4 different JA accents and even at least 3 versions of patois. Never heard 'Mi deh guh' before. Having grown up beside Jamaican-Indians (great neighbors and friends) I never knew the hurt nor real history of the C-word until I heard a lil Trini guy say 'Its 1980's and R... H... 'macians still talking 'bout R... H... C... I was so ashamed that I didn't know.

 
Ewart 2022-10-25 19:28:53 

In reply to Dukes

Indeed!

And that is why I proffered congratulations.



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Wally-1 2022-10-25 19:51:33 

In reply to Dukes
Hope you gave a shout out to Mr. Paul Bogle for I.

 
tc1 2022-10-25 21:28:12 

In reply to Walco


I brought the last 2 conkies from Culpepper last Saturday. They have a small supply every week.

 
Dukes 2022-10-25 23:52:01 

In reply to Ewart

Thank you Sir.Check your e-mail.

 
Halliwell 2022-10-26 09:16:50 

In reply to Brerzerk

Exactly!!! I always thought conch! big grin

 
Chrissy 2022-10-26 11:23:59 

In reply to BrerzerkJust last week we had a discussion about the C word in a Fed Ex office. Jamaicans use it without giving a thought to its origin.

 
Dukes 2022-10-26 11:35:26 

In reply to Wally-1

The School has all the National Heroes on the Walls.

 
Larr Pullo 2022-10-26 11:57:44 

In reply to Narper

I believe when meat is added its called Pastelle


Philistines!

 
doosra 2022-10-26 12:15:04 

In reply to Chrissy

would love to hear more about the 13 families in NA

 
Wally-1 2022-10-26 13:48:04 

In reply to Dukes

The School has all the National Heroes on the Walls.


I had to say " Tie A Leaf" at home that other name was reserved for when with peers.

smile
My mother, bless her soul, was so strict that that one day I heard Bob's song, "I'm gonna put it on", on the radio and was singing it in the yard. She grabbed me and spanked my asset and kept saying, "put on what, what you gonna put on, poor me had no clue what the song meant.

 
Dukes 2022-10-29 14:51:45 

In reply to Wally-1

Mothers eeh?
My father never beat me.When I did something that required a spanking,he called on my mother to do it.She had a way of spanking me and then talking to me about what I had done wrong and why she spanked me.

 
Brerzerk 2022-10-29 22:34:18 

In reply to Wally-1
One of my brothers on a dare pretended to be just out of earshot of Grandma tried to sing
Kitchie's Doctor Kitch 'Ah put it een' With fire in her eyes said 'Bwoy come here!' After my brother
sheepishly went to her Grandma said 'As long as there is life in your body never et me or anyone else
hear you sing that' The embarrassment and teasing was worse than any beating, it lasted for years.