When will diabetes learn to bowl and bat?
His bat is never straight always aiming for cow corner. Has this guy ever cover driven a ball for four?
This man coulda never play cricket.
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Bish says Odean Smith is still learning his craft.
Courtesy
Joined: Apr 16, 2009Posts: 34524 3/22/23, 3:35:08 AM
When will diabetes learn to bowl and bat?
His bat is never straight always aiming for cow corner. Has this guy ever cover driven a ball for four?
This man coulda never play cricket.
PalsofMine
Joined: Feb 2, 2023Posts: 313 3/22/23, 12:33:34 PM
Bish is very diplomatic!!
Narper
Joined: Jan 4, 2003Posts: 244813 3/22/23, 12:53:58 PM
In reply to Courtesy
One would hope he is still learning....but the evidence suggests otherwise...
One would hope he is still learning....but the evidence suggests otherwise...
buds
Joined: Nov 15, 2002Posts: 20065 3/22/23, 1:09:11 PM
In reply to Courtesy
A very slow learner. It's as if he is running a 100 metre dash. SMH.
A very slow learner. It's as if he is running a 100 metre dash. SMH.
bird
Joined: Nov 13, 2002Posts: 1660 3/22/23, 1:54:16 PM
In reply to Courtesy
yes Bish said that, but! does he not realize it is embarrassing to continue making these excuses, Smith has been around for years and there is no growth in the skill level and in his mental strength
yes Bish said that, but! does he not realize it is embarrassing to continue making these excuses, Smith has been around for years and there is no growth in the skill level and in his mental strength
Drapsey
Joined: Dec 26, 2007Posts: 32134 3/22/23, 1:58:20 PM
Odean's ODI bowling average is 27.71, and excepting for AlJo, less than any other bowler participating in this WI/Saffie series.
AlJo: 27.00
Cariah: 62.00
Hosein: 29.56
JHo: 37.03
Mayers: 29.77
Odean: 27.71
Narper
Joined: Jan 4, 2003Posts: 244813 3/22/23, 2:10:37 PM
In reply to Drapsey
7 ODIs and bowled 31 overs...6 wickers with 32 ave...ER 6.22
ave just over 4 overs per match....
Stats
Ave 27 with the bat with SR 170....much more potential here
7 ODIs and bowled 31 overs...6 wickers with 32 ave...ER 6.22
ave just over 4 overs per match....
Stats
Ave 27 with the bat with SR 170....much more potential here
Drapsey
Joined: Dec 26, 2007Posts: 32134 3/22/23, 2:18:30 PM
In reply to Narper
Actually, Odean is slotted as a batting allrounder. It amazes me that he batted at #10 during yesterday's game. Coming in to bat at that point only leaves one with the swinging option.
Actually, Odean is slotted as a batting allrounder. It amazes me that he batted at #10 during yesterday's game. Coming in to bat at that point only leaves one with the swinging option.
Courtesy
Joined: Apr 16, 2009Posts: 34524 3/22/23, 2:31:13 PM
In reply to all who posted
Odean Smith is not as half as good as Franklin Rose and not a quarter of Bernard Julian.
That's how low we have fallen.
Odean Smith is not as half as good as Franklin Rose and not a quarter of Bernard Julian.
That's how low we have fallen.
PalsofMine
Joined: Feb 2, 2023Posts: 313 3/22/23, 2:35:16 PM
In reply to Courtesy
more importantly, is he better than Shepherd? or Drakes? or even Greaves? or Primus? In ODIs average per wicket is less important than economy rate. The problem is that no captain will bowl Odean for 10 overs. If he is a batting allrounder, why is he coming in at No 9? Will any captain ever bat him at Nos. 3-5?
more importantly, is he better than Shepherd? or Drakes? or even Greaves? or Primus? In ODIs average per wicket is less important than economy rate. The problem is that no captain will bowl Odean for 10 overs. If he is a batting allrounder, why is he coming in at No 9? Will any captain ever bat him at Nos. 3-5?
Narper
Joined: Jan 4, 2003Posts: 244813 3/22/23, 2:38:51 PM
In reply to Courtesy
That is the reality.
So those with a lil potential needs nurturing....the cupboard bare bare....
However..the bottom line is the players must want to get better...must not be satisfied with where they are...
In my opinion Smith is not getting better...even after playing in the IPL ...rubbing shoulders with best players and experiencing top class professional support systems there
That's how low we have fallen.
That is the reality.
So those with a lil potential needs nurturing....the cupboard bare bare....
However..the bottom line is the players must want to get better...must not be satisfied with where they are...
In my opinion Smith is not getting better...even after playing in the IPL ...rubbing shoulders with best players and experiencing top class professional support systems there
Barry
Joined: Jun 20, 2019Posts: 13030 3/22/23, 2:39:23 PM
In reply to Drapsey
Stop talking sheet
Stop talking sheet
Drapsey
Joined: Dec 26, 2007Posts: 32134 3/22/23, 2:41:56 PM
In reply to Courtesy
BTW, I'm not a fan of Odean Smith.
BTW, I'm not a fan of Odean Smith.
Courtesy
Joined: Apr 16, 2009Posts: 34524 3/22/23, 2:45:09 PM
In reply to PalsofMine
I was wondering what is the value of bowling average when economy rate is more meaningful indicator of efficiency, especially in a scenario when Odean's best bowling figures in ODI are 2/29.
Some fellas go to great lengths...
I was wondering what is the value of bowling average when economy rate is more meaningful indicator of efficiency, especially in a scenario when Odean's best bowling figures in ODI are 2/29.
Some fellas go to great lengths...
Narper
Joined: Jan 4, 2003Posts: 244813 3/22/23, 2:45:15 PM
In reply to PalsofMine
In the CPL...Amazon Warriors used him up the order..
Will any captain ever bat him at Nos. 3-5?
In the CPL...Amazon Warriors used him up the order..
Courtesy
Joined: Apr 16, 2009Posts: 34524 3/22/23, 2:46:54 PM
In reply to Narper
Yep.
hat is the reality.
So those with a lil potential needs nurturing....the cupboard bare bare....
However..the bottom line is the players must want to get better...must not be satisfied with where they are...
In my opinion Smith is not getting better...even after playing in the IPL ...rubbing shoulders with best players and experiencing top class professional support systems there
So those with a lil potential needs nurturing....the cupboard bare bare....
However..the bottom line is the players must want to get better...must not be satisfied with where they are...
In my opinion Smith is not getting better...even after playing in the IPL ...rubbing shoulders with best players and experiencing top class professional support systems there
Yep.
Barry
Joined: Jun 20, 2019Posts: 13030 3/22/23, 2:51:12 PM
Puncheon talking- bat he arse at 3 after failing at 9
Drapsey
Joined: Dec 26, 2007Posts: 32134 3/22/23, 3:00:05 PM
In reply to Courtesy
BTW, I don't pay much attention to Averages either. We leave that to Devin.
BTW, I don't pay much attention to Averages either. We leave that to Devin.
WICFan
Joined: Nov 13, 2002Posts: 8652 3/22/23, 4:28:21 PM
Reminds me of his namesake, Dwayne Smith.
InHindsight
Joined: Feb 24, 2007Posts: 10387 3/22/23, 6:17:46 PM
Ocean Smith deserves criticism and should be dropped
googley
Joined: Feb 9, 2004Posts: 20102 3/22/23, 7:47:03 PM
Anyone has the stats before and after he was "benched" by The Lard?
Courtesy
Joined: Apr 16, 2009Posts: 34524 3/23/23, 11:15:24 AM
If Odean Smith is picked on any West Indies side again, then it still a sad story of the incompetence of our selectors.
Every international team knows now that he is diabetes.
..............
Cariah is now on a watchlist.
Every international team knows now that he is diabetes.
..............
Cariah is now on a watchlist.
nissan
Joined: Dec 1, 2002Posts: 5589 3/23/23, 11:34:18 AM
In reply to Courtesy
Some fellas go to great lengths...
You just hit on one of Smith's problems - lengths
Some fellas go to great lengths...
You just hit on one of Smith's problems - lengths
Courtesy
Joined: Apr 16, 2009Posts: 34524 3/23/23, 11:44:58 AM
Does Odean Smith have an IPL contract/
I would love to see him play in this year's IPL.
I would love to see him play in this year's IPL.
Seechy
Joined: Jan 30, 2009Posts: 1671 3/23/23, 11:48:38 AM
In reply to Drapsey
His stats may be decent for an allrounder, but he has a lot of work to do if he wants to be a permanent fixture in the ODI setup. He needs to work on bowling economy, no ball issues, and batting time instead of trying to lash everything.
His stats may be decent for an allrounder, but he has a lot of work to do if he wants to be a permanent fixture in the ODI setup. He needs to work on bowling economy, no ball issues, and batting time instead of trying to lash everything.
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