Bish says Odean Smith is still learning his craft.

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link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/22/23, 3:35:08 AM 
lol lol lol

When will diabetes learn to bowl and bat?

His bat is never straight always aiming for cow corner. Has this guy ever cover driven a ball for four?

This man coulda never play cricket.

link PalsofMine Joined: Feb 2, 2023
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3/22/23, 12:33:34 PM 
Bish is very diplomatic!!

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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3/22/23, 12:53:58 PM 
In reply to Courtesy

One would hope he is still learning....but the evidence suggests otherwise...

link buds Joined: Nov 15, 2002
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3/22/23, 1:09:11 PM 
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A very slow learner. It's as if he is running a 100 metre dash. SMH.

link bird Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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3/22/23, 1:54:16 PM 
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yes Bish said that, but! does he not realize it is embarrassing to continue making these excuses, Smith has been around for years and there is no growth in the skill level and in his mental strength

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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3/22/23, 1:58:20 PM 

Odean's ODI bowling average is 27.71, and excepting for AlJo, less than any other bowler participating in this WI/Saffie series.

AlJo: 27.00
Cariah: 62.00
Hosein: 29.56
JHo: 37.03
Mayers: 29.77
Odean: 27.71

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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3/22/23, 2:10:37 PM 
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7 ODIs and bowled 31 overs...6 wickers with 32 ave...ER 6.22

ave just over 4 overs per match....

Stats

Ave 27 with the bat with SR 170....much more potential here

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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3/22/23, 2:18:30 PM 
In reply to Narper

Actually, Odean is slotted as a batting allrounder. It amazes me that he batted at #10 during yesterday's game. Coming in to bat at that point only leaves one with the swinging option.

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/22/23, 2:31:13 PM 
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Odean Smith is not as half as good as Franklin Rose and not a quarter of Bernard Julian.

That's how low we have fallen.

link PalsofMine Joined: Feb 2, 2023
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3/22/23, 2:35:16 PM 
In reply to Courtesy

more importantly, is he better than Shepherd? or Drakes? or even Greaves? or Primus? In ODIs average per wicket is less important than economy rate. The problem is that no captain will bowl Odean for 10 overs. If he is a batting allrounder, why is he coming in at No 9? Will any captain ever bat him at Nos. 3-5?

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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3/22/23, 2:38:51 PM 
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That's how low we have fallen.

That is the reality.
So those with a lil potential needs nurturing....the cupboard bare bare....

However..the bottom line is the players must want to get better...must not be satisfied with where they are...

In my opinion Smith is not getting better...even after playing in the IPL ...rubbing shoulders with best players and experiencing top class professional support systems there

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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3/22/23, 2:39:23 PM 
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Stop talking sheet confused confused confused confused confused confused

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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3/22/23, 2:41:56 PM 
In reply to Courtesy

BTW, I'm not a fan of Odean Smith.

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/22/23, 2:45:09 PM 
In reply to PalsofMine

I was wondering what is the value of bowling average when economy rate is more meaningful indicator of efficiency, especially in a scenario when Odean's best bowling figures in ODI are 2/29.

Some fellas go to great lengths...

big grin

link Narper Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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3/22/23, 2:45:15 PM 
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Will any captain ever bat him at Nos. 3-5?

In the CPL...Amazon Warriors used him up the order..

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/22/23, 2:46:54 PM 
In reply to Narper

hat is the reality.
So those with a lil potential needs nurturing....the cupboard bare bare....

However..the bottom line is the players must want to get better...must not be satisfied with where they are...

In my opinion Smith is not getting better...even after playing in the IPL ...rubbing shoulders with best players and experiencing top class professional support systems there

Yep.

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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3/22/23, 2:51:12 PM 
Puncheon talking- bat he arse at 3 after failing at 9 big grin

link Drapsey Joined: Dec 26, 2007
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3/22/23, 3:00:05 PM 
In reply to Courtesy

BTW, I don't pay much attention to Averages either. We leave that to Devin.

link WICFan Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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3/22/23, 4:28:21 PM 
Reminds me of his namesake, Dwayne Smith.

link InHindsight Joined: Feb 24, 2007
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3/22/23, 6:17:46 PM 
Ocean Smith deserves criticism and should be dropped

link googley Joined: Feb 9, 2004
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3/22/23, 7:47:03 PM 
Anyone has the stats before and after he was "benched" by The Lard?

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/23/23, 11:15:24 AM 
If Odean Smith is picked on any West Indies side again, then it still a sad story of the incompetence of our selectors.

Every international team knows now that he is diabetes.

..............

Cariah is now on a watchlist.

link nissan Joined: Dec 1, 2002
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3/23/23, 11:34:18 AM 
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Some fellas go to great lengths...


You just hit on one of Smith's problems - lengths

link Courtesy Joined: Apr 16, 2009
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3/23/23, 11:44:58 AM 
Does Odean Smith have an IPL contract/

I would love to see him play in this year's IPL.

big grin

link Seechy Joined: Jan 30, 2009
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3/23/23, 11:48:38 AM 
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His stats may be decent for an allrounder, but he has a lot of work to do if he wants to be a permanent fixture in the ODI setup. He needs to work on bowling economy, no ball issues, and batting time instead of trying to lash everything.

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