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World 11 - Telegraph readers selections

 
Kay 2023-03-24 14:00:06 

All-time World Test XI, as voted by Telegraph readers

 
Jumpstart 2023-03-24 15:43:07 

In reply to Kay

rubbish list....no lara because you already have a left hander....tendulkar does not win tests. Lara has a proven track record of doing that....and against the best opposition. No Wasim Akram and james anderson does not even feature in an alternate xi. Jack hobbs played between 1908-1930....clear;y does not belong on the list

 
PalsofMine 2023-03-24 16:11:53 

and why not Sangakarra before Gilchrist as keeper? That man could play as a batsman only if needed. The justification for omitting Lara is bizarre!!

 
bdaTryangle 2023-03-24 16:16:06 

Telegraph readers definitely having an England bias - with respect to Anderson, him in an all-time World Team is a travesty.

 
Kay 2023-03-24 16:46:57 

In reply to bdaTryangle

Well if this website do a poll we can expect the same bias. It is what it is ... just a public opinion poll

 
Jumpstart 2023-03-24 16:58:21 

In reply to Kay

true....but some decisions are just absurd....anderson can't even tie Allan Donald's shoes.......or walsh's, or waqar, or mcgrath or big bird, or hitman andy roberts, or whispering death, or denis lillee, the father of the modern fast bowler

 
doosra 2023-03-24 17:07:13 

In reply to Jumpstart

rubbish list....no lara because you already have a left hander....tendulkar does not win tests. Lara has a proven track record of doing that....and against the best opposition


Lara has won 25% of the matches he's played - 32 wins / 131, at an average of 61, with 8 100s and 16 50s
Tendular 36% of the matches he's played - 72 wins / 200, at an average of 62, with 20 100s and 24 50s


Lara has played a few memorable match winning innings but overall he is not the winner we talk him up to be - at least that is what the data is saying

that has nothing to do with his batsmanship tho

 
XFactor 2023-03-24 22:00:33 

In reply to doosra

Jumpy/Trinis are an emotional lot when they are talking about Lara. Don’t expect logic and statistics to apply. lol

 
nick2020 2023-03-24 22:26:18 

In reply to doosra

Hello Doosie how ya doing?

 
sudden 2023-03-24 22:30:59 

In reply to doosra

That he (Lara) himself won or the team won?

Therein lies the difference

 
Halliwell 2023-03-25 09:59:46 

In reply to sudden

Yep

Great players should play 11 vs 1

 
FanAttick 2023-03-25 13:03:38 

Which idiot picking Graeme Smith in an X1 and not Lara?
Madness

George Headley ahead of Smith any day of the week and twice on Sunday

 
shivnotout 2023-03-25 13:09:39 

In reply to doosra



Lara has won 25% of the matches he's played - 32 wins / 131, at an average of 61, with 8 100s and 16 50s


Tendular 36% of the matches he's played - 72 wins / 200, at an average of 62, with 20 100s and 24 50s


Tendular 1st pick

lol

 
FanAttick 2023-03-25 13:29:14 

In reply to doosra

Lara has won 25% of the matches he's played - 32 wins / 131, at an average of 61, with 8 100s and 16 50s
Tendular 36% of the matches he's played - 72 wins / 200, at an average of 62, with 20 100s and 24 50s


Lara has played a few memorable match winning innings but overall he is not the winner we talk him up to be - at least that is what the data is saying

that has nothing to do with his batsmanship tho


What was the contribution of the other batters and the bowlers in those wins?

Do you know that Tendulkar only won 5 Man of the Match Awards in the 72 matches won by India during his career(6.9%)?
By contrast, Sehwag was Man of the Match in 4 of the 42 matches won by India during his career(9.5%)
Lara on the other hand won 4 Man of the Match Awards in the 32 matches won by West Indies during his career(12.5%).

In other words Lara was twice the match winner that Tendulkar ever was lol

Chrissy - please send my check in the mail. Tenks. lol

 
sudden 2023-03-25 13:37:13 

In reply to Halliwell

Then how about a stat where he or Tendu made runs but the team lost big grin

 
FanAttick 2023-03-25 13:54:21 

In reply to sudden

Then how about a stat where he or Tendu made runs but the team lost


Tendulkar averaged 37 in matches lost. Lara averaged 42 lol

 
sudden 2023-03-25 14:23:11 

In reply to FanAttick

A great TL once advised me it is as much about the evidence as it is about the right questions big grin

 
Brerzerk 2023-03-25 18:35:07 

In reply to doosra
That is not 'statistics" not unless you do calculations on othee contributions from teammates, opposition, pitch condition,etc.

 
Brerzerk 2023-03-25 18:49:19 

Sorry guys didn't read through 1st. Your questions and contributions make the above void

 
doosra 2023-03-25 18:50:13 

In reply to FanAttick

it was not that all 'devastating' after all big grin