Daren Sammy is an embarrassment. His batting is poor. He is not bowling and he is dropping catches.How long can he continue pretending to be a cricketer? This is a FARCE.
seh who?
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doosra
Joined: May 26, 2004Posts: 89549 5/25/23, 3:41:52 AM
seh who?
Kay
Joined: Feb 1, 2015Posts: 9213 5/25/23, 3:44:36 AM
In reply to doosra
But they forgot to mention that he claps well ..... intangibles my friend!
His batting is poor. He is not bowling and he is dropping catches.
But they forgot to mention that he claps well ..... intangibles my friend!
Emir
Joined: Aug 9, 2014Posts: 16482 5/25/23, 1:28:34 PM
In reply to doosra
What is your problem?
What is your problem?
doosra
Joined: May 26, 2004Posts: 89549 5/25/23, 1:30:10 PM
In reply to Emir
is there one?
if there is, it has to do with calling out inconsistency and double standards
is there one?
if there is, it has to do with calling out inconsistency and double standards
Walco
Joined: Jun 22, 2008Posts: 12992 5/25/23, 2:08:46 PM
In reply to doosra
Why you going after Dukes so hard doosie? We all have the right change our minds when presented with new evidence, no?
As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
Why you going after Dukes so hard doosie? We all have the right change our minds when presented with new evidence, no?
As Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds."
doosra
Joined: May 26, 2004Posts: 89549 5/25/23, 2:22:45 PM
In reply to Walco
you calling people name juss so?
a little mind is what I am used to being called, it is evident isn't it
you calling people name juss so?
a little mind is what I am used to being called, it is evident isn't it
SnoopDog
Joined: Jan 24, 2004Posts: 13577 5/25/23, 2:25:23 PM
In reply to doosra
Worst than a farce. Scammy was a fraud.
Leaders lead by example and that fraud was only good at hiding and clapping.
Remember when he would promote himself up the batting order when his team needed only a few runs to win with lots of overs to spare? Just so he could hit the winning run and have his pic in the morning papers. FRAUD.
Worst than a farce. Scammy was a fraud.
Leaders lead by example and that fraud was only good at hiding and clapping.
Remember when he would promote himself up the batting order when his team needed only a few runs to win with lots of overs to spare? Just so he could hit the winning run and have his pic in the morning papers. FRAUD.
Jumpstart
Joined: Nov 30, 2017Posts: 6914 5/25/23, 2:27:53 PM
In reply to doosra
where yuh resurrect this from
call names
Daren Sammy is an embarrassment. His batting is poor. He is not bowling and he is dropping catches.How long can he continue pretending to be a cricketer? This is a FARCE.
where yuh resurrect this from
call names
Walco
Joined: Jun 22, 2008Posts: 12992 5/25/23, 2:41:18 PM
In reply to doosra
For purposes of clarification, the Ralph Emerson quote was to say that Dukes does not have a little mind. It was in no way intended to suggest that you have a little mind
For purposes of clarification, the Ralph Emerson quote was to say that Dukes does not have a little mind. It was in no way intended to suggest that you have a little mind
doosra
Joined: May 26, 2004Posts: 89549 5/25/23, 2:44:33 PM
In reply to Walco
and that is exactly what i acknowledged
and that is exactly what i acknowledged
a little mind is what I am used to being called, it is evident isn't it smile smile
Walco
Joined: Jun 22, 2008Posts: 12992 5/25/23, 2:47:28 PM
In reply to doosra
I though so, but I just want to remove any possible doubt regarding my post
I though so, but I just want to remove any possible doubt regarding my post
doosra
Joined: May 26, 2004Posts: 89549 5/25/23, 2:52:52 PM
In reply to Walco
and i never thought you meant anyone but me
and i never thought you meant anyone but me
Cheeks
Joined: Dec 3, 2002Posts: 15182 5/25/23, 6:33:40 PM
Simple case of you never miss the water ..till..
Winning two world cups followed by not even being close to sniffing them in his absence is quite irrefutable evidence..but peeps are still constrained by by narrow minds even if they have been proven wrang wrang wrang. Having talent is one thing..but being able to leverage that talent as a leader in a dynamic setting on the field of play is clearly underestimated...and whomever you trying to callout as being hypocrite is probably just being a grown up admitting that he may have previously missed a trick in assessing the situation based on the mountain of evidence that has piled up since then. I respect that.
Some will hold on to the hatred and the illogical position to their graves..I dunno just to prove that they were right?? Very much akin to DJT supporters...no matter how much crap piles up...they don't want to admit that he is a sk...t.
In the meanwhile...lemme go replay the highlights of that 2012 T20 win. Arguably the best all-round performance of that match came from????
Winning two world cups followed by not even being close to sniffing them in his absence is quite irrefutable evidence..but peeps are still constrained by by narrow minds even if they have been proven wrang wrang wrang. Having talent is one thing..but being able to leverage that talent as a leader in a dynamic setting on the field of play is clearly underestimated...and whomever you trying to callout as being hypocrite is probably just being a grown up admitting that he may have previously missed a trick in assessing the situation based on the mountain of evidence that has piled up since then. I respect that.
Some will hold on to the hatred and the illogical position to their graves..I dunno just to prove that they were right?? Very much akin to DJT supporters...no matter how much crap piles up...they don't want to admit that he is a sk...t.
In the meanwhile...lemme go replay the highlights of that 2012 T20 win. Arguably the best all-round performance of that match came from????
camos
Joined: May 6, 2003Posts: 55477 5/25/23, 7:01:53 PM
In reply to Cheeks
How much speculation are you comfortable with?
Winning two world cups followed by not even being close to sniffing them in his absence is quite irrefutable evidence.
How much speculation are you comfortable with?
Cheeks
Joined: Dec 3, 2002Posts: 15182 5/25/23, 8:37:27 PM
In reply to camos
You can speculate all you want. I am dealing in measurable matters. What do they say...you can't manage what you can't measure??? The theme is LEEDAHSHIP Iyah.
How much speculation are you comfortable with?
You can speculate all you want. I am dealing in measurable matters.
What do they say...you can't manage what you can't measure??? The theme is LEEDAHSHIP Iyah.
Brerzerk
Joined: Mar 16, 2021Posts: 7630 5/26/23, 12:28:06 AM
In reply to Cheeks
Maybe the most irrational, data-less nonsense I've ever read here.
The ones for which there wasn't even a sniff... did they have 9 of The Greatest T20 PLAYERS the
world has ever seen in their prime? I don't even think you believe yourself but if you do I am shocked
and disappointed in my level of mis-judgement.
Maybe the most irrational, data-less nonsense I've ever read here.
The ones for which there wasn't even a sniff... did they have 9 of The Greatest T20 PLAYERS the
world has ever seen in their prime? I don't even think you believe yourself but if you do I am shocked
and disappointed in my level of mis-judgement.
Curtis
Joined: Dec 4, 2002Posts: 14957 5/26/23, 3:54:55 AM
Halliwell
Joined: May 14, 2005Posts: 20311 5/26/23, 6:53:56 AM
In reply to doosra
Get a room you two!
Get a room you two!
Cheeks
Joined: Dec 3, 2002Posts: 15182 5/26/23, 12:19:56 PM
In reply to Brerzerk
Data-less??
You mean the data doesn't align with your qualitative and presumably biased assessment. The data says two world cup wins followed by no sniff. You can do all the permutations of subjectivity you want...about who was in prime and who was not in prime and who bridged the gap of those teams vs the no sniff teams etc etc, but to do that you will have to apply the same argument to Clive Lloyd's leadership no?
Unless you think that leadership and teamwork do not matter?
Nice try with the 'in their prime' argument though.
Maybe the most irrational, data-less nonsense I've ever read here.
The ones for which there wasn't even a sniff... did they have 9 of The Greatest T20 PLAYERS the
world has ever seen in their prime? I don't even think you believe yourself but if you do I am shocked
and disappointed in my level of mis-judgement.
The ones for which there wasn't even a sniff... did they have 9 of The Greatest T20 PLAYERS the
world has ever seen in their prime? I don't even think you believe yourself but if you do I am shocked
and disappointed in my level of mis-judgement.
Data-less??
You mean the data doesn't align with your qualitative and presumably biased assessment. The data says two world cup wins followed by no sniff. You can do all the permutations of subjectivity you want...about who was in prime and who was not in prime and who bridged the gap of those teams vs the no sniff teams etc etc, but to do that you will have to apply the same argument to Clive Lloyd's leadership no?
Unless you think that leadership and teamwork do not matter?
Nice try with the 'in their prime' argument though.
Onionman0
Joined: Mar 6, 2020Posts: 3082 5/26/23, 1:04:46 PM
In reply to Cheeks
Winning two world cups followed by not even being close to sniffing them in his absence is quite irrefutable evidence..but
What was his performance as ODI captain....
What is his experience in international or regional level in 50 overs match...
Which team he has coached successfully in 50 overs match....
Please enlighten!!!
Winning two world cups followed by not even being close to sniffing them in his absence is quite irrefutable evidence..but
What was his performance as ODI captain....
What is his experience in international or regional level in 50 overs match...
Which team he has coached successfully in 50 overs match....
Please enlighten!!!
camos
Joined: May 6, 2003Posts: 55477 5/26/23, 1:22:21 PM
In reply to Cheeks
how do you measure that assertion?
Winning two world cups followed by not even being close to sniffing them in his absence is quite irrefutable evidence
how do you measure that assertion?
Wally-1
Joined: Jan 8, 2003Posts: 34052 5/26/23, 1:36:41 PM
In reply to doosra
Don't let anyone tell you that you're broke like a Sammy stroke. You'll be in bad shape.
His batting is poor
Don't let anyone tell you that you're broke like a Sammy stroke. You'll be in bad shape.
Cheeks
Joined: Dec 3, 2002Posts: 15182 5/26/23, 1:39:20 PM
In reply to camos
How do I what???
Sammy as captain
2012 Champs
2014 Semis lost in a rain affected match
2016 Champs
No Sammy
2021 ..out in what? Round 2? Many of our T20 'studs' played in that one. Hence Brezerk's attempt at coverage via the 'prime' argument.
Lets not talk about after that.
How do I what???
Sammy as captain
2012 Champs
2014 Semis lost in a rain affected match
2016 Champs
No Sammy
2021 ..out in what? Round 2? Many of our T20 'studs' played in that one. Hence Brezerk's attempt at coverage via the 'prime' argument.
Lets not talk about after that.
Wally-1
Joined: Jan 8, 2003Posts: 34052 5/26/23, 1:45:54 PM
In reply to camos
Chough Camos, look to me for all your answers, matter of fact, it's in display in front of your very eyes.
Tilt your focus to the top righthand section of my post and there you'll have it.
Chough Camos, look to me for all your answers, matter of fact, it's in display in front of your very eyes.
Tilt your focus to the top righthand section of my post and there you'll have it.
brians_da_best
Joined: Nov 13, 2002Posts: 17863 5/26/23, 1:46:07 PM
Darren Sammy is the best option for coach. Had Chanders been the white ball coach, it would have been the best.
The problem with West Indians is you can never please everyone. Some of the best and most successful coaches in the world don’t have certifications.
Did ravi Shastri have any when he became coach?
Brendon McCullum
Many current IPL coaches are ex players coaching some of the richest and most successful franchises the game has ever seen (I’m not an IPL fan but that’s another story altogether)
Many past players gravitate to coaching and they have certain skills that you can’t learn in a classroom.
Let’s give Sammy a fair shot.
The problem with West Indians is you can never please everyone. Some of the best and most successful coaches in the world don’t have certifications.
Did ravi Shastri have any when he became coach?
Brendon McCullum
Many current IPL coaches are ex players coaching some of the richest and most successful franchises the game has ever seen (I’m not an IPL fan but that’s another story altogether)
Many past players gravitate to coaching and they have certain skills that you can’t learn in a classroom.
Let’s give Sammy a fair shot.
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