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HEADLINE: Philo Wallace fails to see CWI’s ‘vision’ with latest ODI squad

 
CaribbeanCricket.com Jul 27, 2023, 11:45:19 PM 

Former West Indies opening batter Philo Wallace has questioned Cricket West Indies' (CWI) selection policy following the revelation of the 15-member squad currently facing off against India in a three-match One-Day International (ODI) series.

Speaking on the Mason & Guest show on Tuesday, Wallace said:

"The selectors will say this is the best available fifteen (players) for this ODI series. I just want to know, with the selection of this squad, where is this squad going to take us? What is the selectors' vision [for] this squad? My take is that we're still allowing players to dictate when they're available or when they're not available."

Wallace first took aim at Guyanese batter Shimron Hetmyer who, before his appearance in the first ODI against India on Thursday, had not represented the West Indies in a year.

 "Shimron Hetmyer [and] how he's left our cricket... and he's just decided--well he's been selected so he's waltzed back in. There's no clear explanation [of] how he has gained selection."


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doosra Jul 28, 2023, 12:13:16 AM 

Philo saw vision with reifer dem? big grin

 
imusic Jul 28, 2023, 12:19:41 AM 

In reply to doosra

Apparently cool

 
tc1 Jul 28, 2023, 12:32:28 AM 

In reply to imusic


From your posts, both you and Doora agreed with the team.

 
anthonyp Jul 28, 2023, 6:03:50 AM 

lol

Bring back Reifer, Brooks, Chase and the others Philo... Plenty vision in them lol

 
WICFan Jul 28, 2023, 6:42:20 AM 

He has a point, there is no plausible reason to bring back Oshane Thomas.

 
InHindsight Jul 28, 2023, 6:45:57 AM 

I am sorry Philo WI doesn't have that luxury. And I agree with Anthony P.

 
velo Jul 28, 2023, 6:51:46 AM 

Hes right i don't see the vision either in choosing shepherd ,or powell, going forward if you are going to play mayers he has to bat at 6 and be able tk bowl.

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 7:21:23 AM 

In reply to velo

he could have been right with Reifa dem too... big grin

 
buds Jul 28, 2023, 7:27:11 AM 

Powell cannot bat.I agree with PW is saying.

 
buds Jul 28, 2023, 7:29:24 AM 

Shytmeyer walks back on the team after all his shannanigans? Smh. He is not that good to be honest. Just mediocre.

 
camos Jul 28, 2023, 7:33:54 AM 

In reply to buds

He is not that good to be honest.
maybe but selectors are only looking at the best of the options.

 
buds Jul 28, 2023, 7:37:12 AM 

In reply to camos

The only two batsmen are King and Hope. The others suck.

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 7:41:01 AM 

In reply to buds

statistically he is better than King on every metric in ODIs

he is also 2 years younger

 
Blackbird Jul 28, 2023, 7:41:06 AM 

This Desmond Haynes led selection panel is the worst selection panel we have ever had .... He came in with an agenda to prove that he knows more about cricket than anyone else and is seriously lost and detached from the modern game.
His selection are wild and wreckless at best which makes the present crisis worst.

 
buds Jul 28, 2023, 7:41:40 AM 

The thing that's irritating is that a player makes a conventional run of the mill shot and he is lauded to no end by the talking heads. And the fans are just as guilty.

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 7:42:43 AM 

In reply to buds

dude Hetmyer has 5 100s in ODIs

that is not a 1 shot thing
he needs to sort his headspace out

 
buds Jul 28, 2023, 8:04:06 AM 

In reply to doosra
That's his biggest Achilles heel. No rass sense.Ntm, his bad attitude.

 
Curtis Jul 28, 2023, 8:15:15 AM 

Philo is one of the greatest minds to make it out of Spooners Gap

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 8:30:31 AM 

In reply to Curtis


the question is
can Philo get back into that gap? big grin

 
tc1 Jul 28, 2023, 10:05:14 AM 

In reply to Curtis

Wrong, Phil is from Haynesville. lol

 
Dukes Jul 28, 2023, 10:09:03 AM 

In reply to doosra

Philo has a HUGE GAP in his head where his brain used to be!!!!

 
tc1 Jul 28, 2023, 10:13:08 AM 

In reply to anthonyp


you should be happy now, you have Hetty, Sweet pie, Motie and the flipper,
lol

 
FuzzyWuzzy Jul 28, 2023, 10:28:46 AM 

In reply to doosra

he is also 2 years younger
Why is this relevant?

 
tc1 Jul 28, 2023, 10:53:06 AM 

In reply to doosra

Reifer who was once the Clyde Walcott of GT cricket now is the scorn of cricket.

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 11:01:56 AM 

In reply to tc1

he was clyde walcott of what?

he played his part but he was no clyde walcott of those 5 championships -

and being at 7 for Guyana averaging 20s and taking a few wickets don't qualify you to be a wi #3

that is the point tc

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 11:02:39 AM 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

it is irrelevant as the other questions you asked and the answers you didn't like big grin

 
sudden Jul 28, 2023, 11:24:46 AM 

In reply to doosra


i didnt read the article so show me where Wallace advocated or defended the selection of Reifer, Chase and dem?

 
FuzzyWuzzy Jul 28, 2023, 11:25:01 AM 

In reply to doosra

Ok you are just frivolous. Understood.

 
FuzzyWuzzy Jul 28, 2023, 11:26:00 AM 

In reply to sudden

Their anti-bajan is bordering on being rabid.

 
ray Jul 28, 2023, 11:34:32 AM 

Idiots have opinions too I guess

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 11:34:37 AM 

In reply to sudden

that is exactly the point
He is and was S I L E N T

That is the point sudden...Wallace was S I L E N T
he had nothing to say when teams were overrun with homeboys

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 11:35:04 AM 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

I will continue to call out hypocrisy and double standards when I see it...i expect the same when i do it

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 11:35:29 AM 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

frivolous?

you were quick to ask for data...i gave it to you and usual you..run away

 
imusic Jul 28, 2023, 11:44:52 AM 

In reply to doosra

Any criticism, even remotely critical, of Bajans is enough fuh dem to being out de rabid ani Bajan label

Nuh let up. Philo had nowt to say when Reifer, Brooks dem was in de team. Now he have mout to chat?

Call dem out! Who vex is dem problem

 
sudden Jul 28, 2023, 11:51:11 AM 

In reply to doosra

really? was he on the program then?

just trying to understand how this has to do with the point he is trying to make, which is a good point.


how did Hetty qualify to walk straight back in the team?

 
tc1 Jul 28, 2023, 1:13:25 PM 

In reply to doosra



Guyana did not win any championship in recent times until Clyde Raymond Reifer came to GT.

 
FuzzyWuzzy Jul 28, 2023, 1:27:30 PM 

In reply to sudden

Please check your mail

 
FuzzyWuzzy Jul 28, 2023, 1:45:48 PM 

In reply to doosra

you were quick to ask for data...i gave it to you and usual you..run away
newsflash!! I am old enough to have seen the glory days and now today's situation. I have long decided that this is death spiral so I lose no sleep over who is selected or not. The outcome is the same if you select 11 Bajans,or trinis or yardies or muddies or dotties. So I don't involve myself in long drawn out pseudo intellectual arguments. I trust you intellectuals with extensive qualifications can revive west indies cricket. It will not happen in my lifetime so I am not holding my breath.

 
buds Jul 28, 2023, 2:05:26 PM 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

I agree 100%. Our revival is nonexistent. How long have we been turning the corner? We are nations dependent on resources elsewhere, self hate, lack of self-belief, etc. We seek approval from our colonial bastards, etc. We cannot come together as in the past united .
Times has changed yet we live in the past.

 
doosra Jul 28, 2023, 2:11:35 PM 

In reply to FuzzyWuzzy

go ketch some rest...you getting lil too sensitive now big grin

 
FuzzyWuzzy Jul 28, 2023, 2:21:18 PM 

In reply to doosra

Agreed. I don't have the time nor inclination to indulge your frivolity.

About 15 - 20 years ago people used to tease me that as long as Kensington was open whether international or regional cricket I was there. ODI' are on at the moment and I chose to not waste my time. I follow occasionally online.

 
Sylobaby Jul 28, 2023, 5:46:56 PM 

I agree with Philo. I don’t see how one could take Hope from the opening spot where he got all his runs and bat him on the middle and have Mayers open in an ODI. I really don’t understand why Thomas, Shepherd and Powell are on the team. I don’t mind Hetty bu why was he not in the World Cup qualifiers and now there’s nothing for us and all of a sudden he is picked and Pooran and Holder are now unavailable.

 
InHindsight Jul 28, 2023, 6:41:21 PM 

In reply to buds




The only two batsmen are King and Hope. The others suck


King does look classy at times but he has glaring shortcomings and international teams are becoming more aware.

 
openning Jul 28, 2023, 8:29:46 PM 

In reply to doosra
Do you listened to the show weekly or you responding to an article?
Philo does not have to hide, he devoted his time to be part of a CWI task force, so he has knowledge of what he is saying.
Why you think Dessie and a number of Barbados players don't go on the show?
The previous week, Philo was attacked by a calling Bajan, did you know that?

he played his part but he was no clyde walcott of those 5 championships -

Reifer return to Barbados and batted up the order, I posted his regional average playing for Barbados, and just like you attacked Philo, for a post about him, shows me that you only look at him when he batted out of place for Guyana,
I wanted to know why after he returned to bim, he was allow to bat, in a batting position, I found out he batted in that position as an youngster and played for CCC as a batsman.
In the last 2 years his regional batting average is one of the highest among regional batsman, higher than any present Guyana batsman.
BTW, the only present batsman from Guyana that have an average of 40 is Motie.

The same happened to Mayers playing for the Windwards, he was never used in a batting position, now he is opening in white ball cricket.

 
anthonyp Jul 28, 2023, 9:42:34 PM 

In reply to openning

Bannuh why do you keep making shyte up? Did Reifer bat at three for Barbados when Hope, Chase & Brooks were available?

Reifer averaged just over 49 in the 2021/2022 season... He did not play in the 2022/2023 season. You keep saying that Motie is the only Guyanese who averaged over 40... You didn't look at the names above Reifer?

Why are you ignoring his recent 'A' team performance at #3? How did he do in those games? He looked like a top order batsman to you?

Here are the stats for the past two seasons...

Batting stats 2022/2023

Batting stats 2021/2022

 
openning Jul 28, 2023, 10:54:23 PM 

In reply to anthonyp
The stats posted is for the present Barbados and Guyana regional stats, playing for their regional franchise, I linked it twice.
Reifer played only seven games for Barbados.
The list is not about the last couple of years, it is historical data.
The historical data of Reifer playing for Barbados is 7 fc games at an average of 47, Hope has an average of 49 , Kraigg 46, Motie 41.
Have a look
Link Text

Link Text

 
mikelegend Jul 29, 2023, 1:36:03 AM 

In reply to openning

You showed the CAREER FC stats for Barbados and Guyana’s players EXCEPT that of Reifer. For Reifer, you displayed a small sample size of 7 FC matches. What is Reifer’s “historical” career FC average? He played NINETY SIX FC games. I opine to have a fair argument with AnthonyP, you would have to compare Reifer’s sampled 7 FC games with others during the same period. I may be wrong, but it’s just my two cents…

 
anthonyp Jul 29, 2023, 6:26:41 AM 

In reply to openning

The stats you're posting aren't comparable. A better comparison will be players performances over the same period, which I posted above.

You are using the overall career figures for most of the Guyana players but deliberately choose a sample of 5 matches for Reifer? Why? That make sense to you? What happen to the remaining 90+ matches? Those don't count?

Gonna ask one more time, did Reifer bat at #3 when Brooks, Hope and Chase were in the Barbados XI?

 
mikelegend Jul 29, 2023, 7:40:32 AM 

In reply to anthonyp

Ditto.

 
doosra Jul 31, 2023, 9:10:33 PM 

Maybe Wallace will show some consistency now the t20 squad is out

waiting on Philo

 
doosra Jul 31, 2023, 9:10:33 PM 

let him come and explain

 
anthonyp Jul 31, 2023, 9:14:31 PM 

In reply to doosra

He is a Sir as well? Or it's Honorable like de lead selector? lol

 
doosra Jul 31, 2023, 9:18:08 PM 

In reply to anthonyp

maybe he will explain this in ways we don't understand big grin

 
openning Jul 31, 2023, 11:22:10 PM 

In reply to doosra
why should he?
He was part of a task force last year, most of that recommendation still has not started, with th present president being head of it.
Philo is now free to speak his mind, without having to be a diplomat.

 
Jumpstart Aug 1, 2023, 12:16:49 AM 

In reply to doosra

Philo saw vision with reifer dem?

lol lol lol lol

 
Jumpstart Aug 1, 2023, 12:19:08 AM 

In reply to WICFan

He has a point, there is no plausible reason to bring back Oshane Thomas.

i agree.....west indies just bursting at the seems with fast bowling talent so oshane hadda be surplus to requirements. Ent i did tell allyuh, barbados was a separate planet when coming to cricket. dey not even close to the earth time zones

 
openning Aug 1, 2023, 12:50:04 AM 

In reply to Jumpstart
You leave the best producer of cricketers in the region alone, as a small Island and lack of resources, we will be back.
I am proud of what the tiny dot have produced, and I am looking forward to the next group of talented cricketers that will make the region proud.

 
Jumpstart Aug 1, 2023, 3:24:44 PM 

In reply to openning

You leave the best producer of cricketers in the region alone, as a small Island and lack of resources, we will be back.
I am proud of what the tiny dot have produced, and I am looking forward to the next group of talented cricketers that will make the region proud.

\back where..........only in road tennis allyuh could make any kind of comeback. allyuh is supposedly the most developed island in the Caribbean along with TT.

Hoss i remember when men was talking about holder b4 he got selected, same thing with paint. holder has no talentr but hew was a hard worker when he had the captaincy., paint is talentless and so was the rest of the losers that were forced on west indians during de big idiot's reign