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FanAttick 9/9/23, 4:04:27 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
62,947 runs

Reggae Boyz 1, Honduras 0

T&T 1, Curaçao 0
nitro 9/9/23, 4:26:40 AM
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debut: 4/10/03
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In reply to FanAttick

That should have been 2 luv! Bobby Reid scored.
Trinity 9/9/23, 5:41:36 AM
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debut: 4/10/03
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Agreed, should have been 2-0. Sets up the Reggae Boyz nicely. Just need to get the midfield to perform better and increase pass accuracy/ball retention.
JoeGrine 9/9/23, 1:05:18 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
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Coach Grim needs to fix whatever it is that keeps Ravel Morrison out of this team. The CONCACAF teams respect Ravel you can see it in how they play Jamaica with him on the pitch. Kasey Palmer is no Ravel Morrison EXHIBIT 1 - he lacks the ability to provide himself as an outlet for the defenders to get the ball up the field.

For the first time I saw a deliberate attempt from Jamaica to move the ball up the field on the ground instead of the "outta-mi-life" kicks up the field. You need a confident midfielder who is a presence on the field to facilitate this and Ravel Morrison is that man!
FanAttick 9/9/23, 1:08:13 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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Magee could be an option in midfield…and hopefully Mason Greenwood will provide another attacking option soon lol
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nitro 9/9/23, 1:16:33 PM
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nitro 9/9/23, 1:21:22 PM
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debut: 4/10/03
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Rooney was working on having Ravel back in DC United however they have salary cap issues.

I saw Ravel posting on IG that he is back in England to sort himself out. Antonio says Ravel should be playing in the EPL if he could sort out his issues. Would be helpful to know the problems with him.
nitro 9/9/23, 1:25:47 PM
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debut: 4/10/03
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The coach made some adjustments in the 2nd half by playing Palmer higher up the pitch and using Joel as the lone CDM, a pivot I think you experts call it. He also added a 3rd midfielder. In essence we were playing a 4-3-3 system. We looked much better.

He needs to cut out this 4-4-2 system. The 4-3-3 enables the team to play to its strength, the super talented wingers.
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nitro 9/9/23, 1:28:54 PM
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debut: 4/10/03
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Grenada did well to draw with the hyped up Suriname team.
JoeGrine 9/9/23, 2:07:56 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
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JoeGrine 9/9/23, 2:09:44 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
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I cannot speak to his present "issue" but Ravel is known to lack off the field discipline and as a man who dances to his own tune. Football is a team sport......

I agree that Grim cannot coach the 4-4-2 with the personnel he has at his disposal.
JoeGrine 9/9/23, 2:14:55 PM
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debut: 2/15/09
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I have time for Magee, however, at this level there is something missing from his game, perhaps it could be something as small as.....playing time.

He is a very poor man's Ravel Morrison.
nitro 9/11/23, 11:43:52 AM
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debut: 4/10/03
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Trinidad getting the job done, 3-2 over El Salvador. Congrats Soca Warriors.
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imusic 9/11/23, 1:05:33 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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Pleasantly surprised at the results for T&T

Not convinced by the coach tactics.

1st game we had 1 shot on goal and won 1-0

This game we had 3 shots on goal and won 3-2

But a team that cedes possession as much as we do and has limited attacking options isn’t going to consistently get these results.

I’ll take it though
Acid 9/11/23, 1:33:12 PM
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debut: 11/4/09
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1st game we had 1 shot on goal and won 1-0

This game we had 3 shots on goal and won 3-2



That is some efficiency big grin

I see in both cricket and football they are top of the table.
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Barry 9/11/23, 8:14:13 PM
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debut: 6/20/19
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Go TTO
razz
FanAttick 9/13/23, 3:02:41 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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Reggae Boyz 2, Haiti 2

Reggae Boyz trailed 0-2 at half time
Chrissy 9/13/23, 3:07:42 AM
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debut: 11/14/02
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Good - I posted the HT score
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JoeGrine 9/13/23, 3:08:18 AM
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debut: 2/15/09
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A few points about the game:

COACH
1)You appointed Leon Bailey “must start” for reasons unknown to those of us who know football. The only “must start” on any Jamaican team is Ethan Pinnock and possibly Demari Grey.

2)Whatever beef you have with Ravel Morrison you better resolve it as if you don’t you will be looking for a job soon. Kasey Palmer is in deep waters as a creative force. He is more ineffective than an elephant on ice skates.

BLAKE - cannot be blamed for any of the goals
BROWN – his waywardness resulted in the Haitians second goal, He should not be staring on this Jamaican team. Give Gray a chance at least as a place holder until Lambesika returns
PINNOCK – coach Grim’s secret finally exposed. Pinnock is his creative midfielder. He had more creative passes than Palmer and Lattibudierre combined.A rock solid defender who is clearly a cut above all else on the field of play.
LOWE – showed again he is just a decent defender, nothing special.
BELL – not one of his better games. He lacks offensive thrust his one shot on goal notwithstanding. Greg Leigh is better at the position as a two-way player.
REID – workmanlike but not threatening. Kept his head to score a penalty.
PALMER – by my count had two passes which went to teammates. Was missing in action when called on to be an outlet to the defenders. The Haitians gave us tons of space up to midfield disrespecting his prowess to create.
LATTIBUDIERRE – decent defensively but offers absolutely nothing going forward. Lambert is his equal.
BAILEY – why is he even in the stadium is beyond me.
NICHOLSON – for those locally biased we now see clearly he is not the finished article. Antonio plays in and scores frequently in the Premier League for a reason.
GREY – Haiti ensured he was surrounded by at least two defenders for the most part.
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Chrissy 9/13/23, 3:10:20 AM
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debut: 11/14/02
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In reply to JoeGrine
Love your grades

lol
JoeGrine 9/13/23, 3:12:37 AM
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"They" will come after you so be careful. big grin
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michaelmax 9/13/23, 3:25:58 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
5,108 runs

In reply to JoeGrine

So the same problems and same issues with the same culprits. Bailey selfish and game poor. Nicholson misses more chances than he scores. Midfield is generally useless. Reid MIA as he is more often than he is not. Yh seems like some new fresh blood is needed since this has been an issue with THESE players for a while.
michaelmax 9/13/23, 3:27:22 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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So the same problems and same issues with the same culprits. Bailey selfish and game poor. Nicholson misses more chances than he scores. Midfield is generally useless. Reid MIA as he is more often than he is not. Yh seems like some new fresh blood is needed since this has been an issue with THESE players for a while.
FanAttick 9/13/23, 9:06:52 AM
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debut: 11/13/02
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BAILEY – why is he even in the stadium is beyond me


Take your biased blinkers off..Bailey was involved in both of the Reggae Boyz goals…
I wouldn’t say he had a great game but he did his part…
The defense aside from Pinnock was poor and Nicholson couldn’t hit the side of a barn with a Banjo
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JoeGrine 9/13/23, 10:09:08 AM
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debut: 2/15/09
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I was waiting for you.

Can you imagine if I had commented on Richards? big grin big grin
Meaning you are the one with biases. I call it as I see it, I don't care if the player is my family, played for my high school, went to my church or........came from a club that I worship at (note - unlike you I have no such club or academy).

Back to Bailey, for me, he has been useless as player since he got into the Jamaican team. Are there better players currently in the squad or among the pool, well, of that I am not sure, however, he has not done anything to show that in the Jamaican colors he is better than Parris for example.

WHO IS THIS JAMAICAN PLAYER?

1) hold head down and dribble into a bunch of opposing players.
2) makes an occasional "chip" pass that finds his teammate. Now I know why he got that nickname.
3) makes as many passes to teammates as he does to the opposition.
4) his dead ball kicks (corners/freekicks/penalty) are nothing special meaning, at least 90% of them are ineffective
5) I will give him credit for away from the ball being an improved player in that he (a) doesn't gesticulate his frustrations at his teammates as openly as he used to (b) he makes the effort now to come back defensively (c ) he is taking on the role of talking to teammates in a more encouraging way
6) I can get Maas Joe or Ms. Janey to do #5 for me absent the hype.
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