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link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 12:03:44 PM 
This thing about disrespecting Guyana because you played the reserves. So what did India do when they sent a team? People here were more concerned with evaluating patriotism among groups but said nothing about the sea of red in the matches to follow. There is nothing wrong in making strong judgments but when you can’t smell your own piss that becomes a frightening thing. Or when you pretend neutrality but are as coloured as the impure white of the KKK that becomes sad. No one disrespecting Guyana. They played the bench and tried to give the great country the top position- Guyana tried hard to lose…. rolleyes

link Halliwell Joined: May 14, 2005
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9/17/23, 12:41:12 PM 
In reply to Barry

I think any home crowd of lickit fans would enjoy a beatdung
The crowd got exactly what they came expecting.
What’s the problem?

Lifetime whingers some of these? Disrespecting the good Guyanese posters around here

link Chrissy Joined: Nov 14, 2002
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9/17/23, 12:52:21 PM 
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In reply to Barry
Ask the Warrior fans about Keemo.

Look, the vast majority of those fans went there to party - they don’t know crap about cricket. Their side won. Nothing else matters.

link bobby Joined: Feb 14, 2003
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9/17/23, 1:25:36 PM 
In reply to Chrissy
Exactly. Most of the people who attend CPL games are there for the alcohol, music and atmosphere. They do not know anything about the game and its nuances. When you hear them talk in interviews or read them on social media, you also quickly realise that they have no sense.
So don't get stressed.

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 1:32:54 PM 
I get beat down… interesting comments… I think it’s entertainment AND cricket though…. Let’s see future matchups… surprised

link Halliwell Joined: May 14, 2005
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9/17/23, 1:44:05 PM 
Exactly. Most of the people who attend CPL games are there for the alcohol, music and atmosphere. They do not know anything about the game and its nuances. When you hear them talk in interviews or read them on social media, you also quickly realise that they have no sense.

Amen!!!!

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big grin

link Overthrow Joined: Mar 24, 2021
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9/17/23, 3:57:37 PM 
There are numerous complaints about small spectator turnout to cricket games in the WI. The CPL have developed a solid business model and filling seats. Does not matter what degree of cricket knowledge spectators possess. They are showing up to the games. They are being entertained and enjoying themselves.

link Halliwell Joined: May 14, 2005
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9/17/23, 4:38:07 PM 
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The armchair critics and internet warriors are most definitely unhappy!!!!! smile

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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9/17/23, 4:46:34 PM 
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Then the so called cognoscenti continue to turn their noses up at those who actually pay $$ to come out and support and bawl they know nothing about cricket.while they themselves haven’t paid to go watch a game LiVE in eons cool

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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9/17/23, 4:53:54 PM 
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When peeps from around the region used to fill the party stand at Antigua Recreation Ground and enjoy Chicki’s HIFI while test matches we’re going on, there was zero question of the cricketing knowledge of those patrons.

Similarly when fans populated the Trini Posse stand for tests and ODI’s at QPO……same people who so disdainful of CPL fans now were heralding the atmosphere at jr grounds etc. Not a question about cricket knowledge than.

As another of their group recently commented…..wurl nuh level cool

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 5:05:32 PM 
In reply to imusic

Good point the Trini posse peeps combine entertainment with knowledge- indeed some of them actually travel to matches outside the region… cool

link Halliwell Joined: May 14, 2005
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9/17/23, 5:26:50 PM 
In reply to imusic

Not me
Since I small I question the motives of the trini ‘posey’

link sgtdjones Joined: Feb 16, 2017
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9/17/23, 5:28:53 PM 
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lol lol lol

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 5:41:05 PM 
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And why is that? cool

link Halliwell Joined: May 14, 2005
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9/17/23, 5:46:49 PM 
In reply to Barry

It was more lime and being seen than digesting the cricket (Test and ODI back then)
It was drink and dance and watch each other then cheer for personalities

That was more like Indian style audiences, silence for an opposition hundred but cheer a Tendulkar single
Kinda came across like the lickit crowd with their posters today

That’s what I saw as a teen that’s all

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 5:47:28 PM 
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I like Dr Camacho. I know those who don’t brush their teeth have baggage. Listen and comment on his views, sir

Q. Some are of the opinion that the increasing popularity and appeal of T20 cricket is having a negative effect on test cricket (e.g. players more attracted to T20 for financial reasons). What are your thoughts on this?

A. There is no doubt that the appeal and excitement of T20 has attracted more new fans to the game, and as a result the sponsors’ money has followed. Hence there are larger rewards for the players in this format of the game. Test cricket is a victim of the success of the shorter format. The result being more players are attracted to this format than the longer traditional version of the game. True cricket connoisseurs love their Test cricket. However, in most parts of the cricket world, these numbers are dwindling. Economics is shaping the future of the game, as the most talented players will follow the money. Only the Big 3––England, India and Australia––will be wealthy enough to pay their Test cricketers a base salary, to keep them playing that format for their country. Test cricket faces an uncertain future, though tradition will keep it going for now. T20 cricket will likely become the dominant format in the future.

cool

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 5:49:02 PM 
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Ok without blood like Camacho and friends your West Indian cricket will die. Nothing wrong having fun… wink
British fans know how to party. Are you an old colonial? cool
Why do you judge the natives harshly? You know that fatman does go to hockey to celebrate with his Barbies…
lol

link Halliwell Joined: May 14, 2005
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9/17/23, 5:52:49 PM 
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You’re going to attack me for having an opinion?
Look at the make up of the early ‘group’ that called themselves the trini posse
Then they charge money for others to ‘join’
If you in it you’d like it; I wasn’t going to sign up for that because I didnt want to be told HOW to watch cricket at QPO

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 6:03:41 PM 
In reply to Halliwell

No brother, I just think it’s superficial and judgmental- you know what I mean? wink

link Barry Joined: Jun 20, 2019
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9/17/23, 6:06:24 PM 
In reply to Halliwell

They are entrepreneurs and like to control things- they have human agency—-nothing wrong with privilege- I understand you are probably rural rootsy

Look at the make up of the early ‘group’ that called themselves the trini posse
Then they charge money for others to ‘join’

link Cheeks Joined: Dec 3, 2002
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9/17/23, 7:08:40 PM 
In reply to Halliwell

The issue is...if it can be called that is that you can't tell people what they must like.

Its like roots reggae vs dancehall or kaiso vs soca.

Hopefully there is capacity and supply for everyone's personal taste bruh.

But no point in turning up noses at the 'unwashed masses'. It doesnt work..and they are indeed the 'masses'.

link imusic Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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9/17/23, 7:36:26 PM 
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Good point about masses

You think CPL cares? Damn right they care

You know who else cares? Those that in charge of disbursing $$ in the form of TV rights

They NOT INTERESTED in empty or even half empty stadia

Which means, test cricket as it currently exists in the West Indies is DEAD. Outside of possibly Dominica & Barbados when Exngland plays there (filled with English holiday goers)….and by the way, nobody here questions their cricket knowledge, even though most of them just there for sun, sand, sea, and a good time with the cricket being incidental.

West Indian fans not stupid. They want to see good competitive cricket and above all….STARS.

Which makes the statement “we don’t want star players….we want a start team (sic) among the most asinine statements ever issued by a public official
In any arena.

When GAW fans turn out, they want “their team” to win…..but most of all they coming out for Hety, and Paul, and Ayub, Shepherd, and Motie. Those are their “stars”

Whenever and wherever Pollard, Bravo, Narine, Russell Pooran and Hosein play, the stadium is sold out no matter the majority of them are in the twilight of their careers.

Who the fuck leaving their home to go and watch Kraigg Brathwsite, Raymon Reifer. sharmar Brooks, Jermaine Blackwood, and company?

Our stars, our best players don’t play test cricket or don’t play it anymore for a myriad of reasons. So who
Outside of their families going to watch the test team? Certainly NOT the masses.

link googley Joined: Feb 9, 2004
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9/17/23, 8:23:50 PM 
In reply to imusic

Whenever and wherever Pollard, Bravo, Narine, Russell Pooran and Hosein play, the stadium is sold out no matter the majority of them are in the twilight of their careers.


Isnt that stretching it a bit? lol lol

link openning Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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9/17/23, 9:46:47 PM 
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Which means, test cricket as it currently exists in the West Indies is DEAD. Outside of possibly Dominica & Barbados when Exngland plays there (filled with English holiday goers)….and by the way, nobody here questions their cricket knowledge, even though most of them just there for sun, sand, sea, and a good time with the cricket being incidental

Bro, the English traveller love All-inclusive, in 2008 Jan and I returned to Bim after visiting the previous year for the WC, We stayed at Almond Beach, close the Gap, one of my partners was the managing director, the night before the ODI match, we had plenty fun, what I learned, these travellers, all inclusive package included Hotel room, food and beverage, Lunch and Snacks to the game and transportation.
The days after the game, Staying at the hotel, enjoying the F&B that was included with the package.
The local vendors, taxi owners, benefit very little from the English visits to the Island.
I piad a scalper $300 us, because I was not going into any Party Stand.
My wife and I are dancers, not revellers.
Them English tourist understands the game.

link tc1 Joined: Jun 12, 2004
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9/17/23, 10:07:12 PM 
In reply to googley

That is why the musician loves t20,Pollard is a t20 star.

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