ODI Squad

In reply to buds

Ok. Thanks

In reply to Wally-1

Honestly I think the problem is Sammy. I cannot see a player as great as Dessie not picking a quality player like Bravo. Sammy’s handlers when he was gifted the captaincy in 2010, purged the team of Senior bravo, Sarwan, Chris Gayle and Jerome Taylor so Sammy could have a team he can captain. So he’s used to operating with second string sides. And WI’s results only improved when those guys came back

This is not a bad squad, given the circumstances.
Pooran, Greaves and Holder are unavailable so that's that.

I understand the selection of Ottley as a cover for opener;
Ottley did score heavily in the Super50, so a reward is not bad
I do not believe that he will be in any of the 11's
The excuse of Ottley as an opener is crap, as
Dowrich opened for Pride in CPL T20,
Alick Athanaze opens for Winwards
Hope is an opener (wid Hetty or Carty to stabalize middle)
King is obviously fit.

Forde deserves his selection
Competition for that spot is Terrance Hinds,
But age may have factored in Forde's selection over Hinds
I would not have argued if Hinds got the nod
and Forde was selected as some kind of reserve to grow with the squad
When Forde was nit selected for the A tour, I suspected he was in

Chase was a shoe-in despite nonsense talk here.
Carriah outperformed Walsh, so no argument
Place here for only one of them.

Hosein was very disappointing in the Super50,
He is regressing or out of form (but people here won't admit that)
Thomas is a great selection

Hetty is a great selection.

Roven Powell, what can I say.
Being honest, he is lucky if he retains the T20 cappo.
Is selceted in de T20 I suspect he will be on probation
Meaning it will be his last chance to prove he belongs (just my suspicion)
He is susceptible to any spin (looks as sea)
Despite his fairly-good leadership at T20, something is wrong with him
Don’t be surprised if Hope displaces him as T20 cappo (You heard is here first)
How a modern batsman can't learn to plan spin is beyond me.
Just do like Russell, who can teach him a thing or two about refine vooping.

On the Bravo issue.
I wrote here that despite his runs in the Super50,
his dot-balls percentage is a worry for International cricket.
His dependence on boundary balls will not work in ODI
Hingland would not give up the 2 to 3 bad balls like Super50 bowlers
With the likes of Hope, Carty and Hetty to play anchor, Bravo loses out
I like Bravo, but I agree with his non-selection.
His past issue with BIG-IDIOT robbed him of a few years (SAD)

In my opinion, the selectors did a fantastic job.
Very few questionable selections.

In reply to Jumpstart

For once, I agree with you re Bravo past issues/non-issues.
However, I cannot blame the present selection for leaving him out.
His days are gone, and we were robbed of the best of Bravo
Thanks to the BIG IDIOT

Bravo lost years is the catalyst for his no longer being in consideration for international cricket.
Bravo is a victim of circumstances
he honestly do not deserve a pick anymore.
His style of ODI batting has not evolved, probable due to lost years.
ODI bowlers do not generally present 2 to 3 bad balls per over
Bravo scores depends on bad balls.
He is not working the good balls in gaps for singles
Wondies have Hope, Carty as middle order anchors.
Bravo will dropp anchor on anchor


May as well select Brafitt and Tage to play if they play Bravo
Score at the end of Wondies 50 overs.
Wondies 131 fa 1.
Braffit not out 58,
Tage run out for 49,
Bravo not out 25

In reply to TanteMerle

I don’t know why delusional fans believe Bravo will be a savior when his ODI record proves otherwise with only 4 100s in 122 matches.
I guess everyone has forgotten about Pollard and crew that failed to qualify for the recent WC! We need to get younger players involved!

In reply to StumpCam

I won't call them dellusional.

I just beieve that they are looking at total runs only from Super 50's
Not quality of bowling, dot-balls, of team strengths, or any other circumstances
Bravo's batting is not ODI standard.
He has not evolved with the game despite his experience.

BTW: so is most of the Wondies players, but age is against him.

In reply to StumpCam

Maybe it's karma for when ICM selected ole washed up Rampaul and his other country men for the t20 world Cup?

I just realize that I forgot Mayers in my post.

He deserves his drop.

Just a refined vooper, who needs to learn to bat.
He is too rash and has shown on occasions that he has the talent.
He is far too inconsistent for me.

He also has to start back bowling more.

Maybe try to make team as a genuine allrounder.

This team lacks intl experience in consistent performance. It is at best a relegation level squad and they will struggle against any genuine intl spin bowler or genuine seem bowler at pace w movement: ie this squad is at the level of Holland or lower and it is not the best that West Indies cricket can offer. Bravo's et al treatment is sim to that of Croft and others who played in an aparteid SA but for a much lesser offense.

In reply to StumpCam



Ottley is 33.
Bravo is 34.

Carty has a ridiculous s/r. This is not the right format for him, he should be in South Africa.

In reply to WICFan

Dowrich is 32
so it's clearly not an age or forward-looking process

In reply to doosra

Making up policy as they go along.

In reply to doosra

Clash of personalities clearly. I don’t think it’s Dessie though

no, it is not an age thing. i see Tante's argument about the dot ball percentage. That would have validity if one then did not have to compare it with other players who do not even get a dot ball percentage because they simply do not last long enough at the crease. it is a travesty that a non performing Hety and Carty (both of whom I like) and even King who did not even play the super 50 and whose overall record is modest at ODIs can get picked before the leading scorer in the premium regional competition. Equally it is a travesty that Walsh, the leading bowler, did not get picked. i am a fan of Cariah's attitude in particular but Walsh outbowled him in this tournament. Even if you decided that you only want to have on leggie in the squad, Walsh is miles ahead of Mansingh and should have gone to SA. We need a transparent selection policy. If it is that over 30s are not to be picked, let us know it. If it is that once you are identified as a talent, you will always be picked, let us know that as well. If Bravo is not to be picked no matter how many runs he makes, let us know that as well. Overall, I think that the team is a good one and I assume that Ottley slotted in for Greaves who would have been first pick. It is just downright wrong that the two best players of the recent tournament have nothing to show for it.

Evil reigns in the Caribbean sh!thole

matthew forde at first glance strikes me as another its and pieces cricketer that proliferate in regional cricket and the fact he only took three wickets and one fifty in the super 50 is very lucky to be there haynes must see something in him .

Powell and mayers deserved to be dropped and congrats to rutherford,dowrich,ottley and bravo non selection was harsh but not unexpected

Haynes sees sh!t in sh!t….

In reply to lb

What are your expectations of a Bravo selection based on his ODI record, another 30 matches to score a 100??

In reply to PalsofMine

West Indies fans are always talking about an individual SR and dot balls, never looking at the team's overall performance.
Virat Kohli may have had the lowest and most dot balls, of the first 4-5 Indian batsman, Cummings batting with Maxwell had an SR below 50, and Labuschagne was also low in the last match, batting with Head.

In reply to WICFan

Ottley will be 34 in 2weeks

In reply to openning

You really want to mention Cummings and Labuschagne innings
Shame on you for bringing them into such conversation.
Please compare Kholi dot-ball percentage with Bravo
not considering the opposition bowling.

Scammy is vindictive

In reply to openning

It took Bravo 51 matches to score his 1st ODI 100, a further 25 matches after his 76th to record his 2nd, followed by his 3rd after 91 matches and his 4th after 117 matches.
Do you really believe he can improve on that???

Hetmyer 50 matches 5 100s.

In reply to TanteMerle

I saw Bravo bat a similar inning to Kholi for his team, you should start focusing on the game instead of the player.
Everything I wrote is relevant to the condition.
Bravo for the last couple of years, seems to have put in the work, in order to make it back to the West Indies team, you cannot disregard consistency because of age, because we just don't have a number of consistently performing professional youngsters.
I used the word professional youngsters because most young international players are given the opportunity to make a living in cricket from an early age.
Our youngsters have to find jobs