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So di Tallawahs franchise up fi grabs

 
Chrissy 2023-12-22 17:13:16 

As Persaud opts for an Antiguan team.

Oh My!

 
mikelegend 2023-12-22 17:14:55 

In reply to Chrissy

Hmmm…interesting investment!!

 
doosra 2023-12-22 17:21:49 

In reply to Chrissy

Bolt, Gayle, Russell, et al?
OR another Indian Franchise to own up?

 
Brerzerk 2023-12-22 18:03:08 

In reply to Chrissy

Unsustainable business model. Good team, rekindled Yardie fans interest, cutting out Florida and give those as Tallawahs’ home games and 2-3 Yardie sponsors including tourist board. Then it may be worth buying

 
StumpCam 2023-12-22 18:07:59 

In reply to Brerzerk

So, let me get this right! Russell and Powell have no problem playing T10 in front 10 people in Abu Dabi, but don’t want to play in Florida???
Help me make it make sense!

 
eXodus 2023-12-22 22:20:22 

In reply to Chrissy

Is he moving the franchise, or stepping away from CPL altogether?

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 01:07:30 

In reply to eXodus
Kris says lack of support from the JA govt is the chief reason he has given up the franchise.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 01:08:43 

In reply to doosra

Kris Persaud is Guyanese

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 01:36:56 

Tallaways not playing in 2024

Jamaica Tallawahs to be replaced by Antigua-based franchise in 2024 CPL

Jamaica Tallawahs, the 2013, 2016 and 2022 Caribbean Premier League champions, will not feature in the tournament's 2024 season and will be replaced by a new franchise based in Antigua and Barbuda.

Kris Persaud, a Guyanese businessman based in Florida, owned the Tallawahs franchise but has sold it back to the CPL.

"The owners were left with no option but to sell the Tallawahs back to CPL as they could not find a way to operate the team sustainably," a CPL spokesperson told ESPNCricinfo.

 
Emir 2023-12-23 03:21:58 

In reply to Chrissy

So he is a private businessman seeking government-tax-payer subsidy also called welfare.

 
positiveg 2023-12-23 03:32:52 

In reply to Emir

Nope.
Each respective government in the CPL franchise home country covers the costs of home games basically.
The JA government didn't see having homes games their as essential way for them to spend their money basically

 
FanAttick 2023-12-23 10:19:34 

In reply to Chrissy

Free at last, free at last. Thank god almighty, we’re free at last!

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 10:52:10 

In reply to FanAttick
Actually you are correct - it is a nice racket.
The WICB morons who sold out our T20s created this mess.
Truthfully the teams should not be allowed to use national names.
Tom, Dick, Harry and in bredda meking money from criminal # whatever Stanford’s lickit.

There won’t be one team left soon and dem done mash up red ball and 50 over in this region.
Structurally adjusted cricket is a euphemism for this destruction.

 
FanAttick 2023-12-23 12:08:20 

In reply to Chrissy

It’s a scam….
This is perhaps the only thing I agree with the Laborites on….we cant use taxpayers’ money to fund foreign private ventures..

The blasphemous use our our beloved word and symbol of our national identity - Tallawah - has always stuck in my craw….

 
Wasp 2023-12-23 13:04:21 

Me cah believe this happened

 
Emir 2023-12-23 13:22:45 

In reply to positiveg


Each respective government in the CPL franchise home country covers the costs of home games basically.


No, not true. But lets say you are correct, then what is this government support called? Clu: starts with S and ends in y.

Another question: The WICBC already sold out to CPL foreign owners for almost free, why should any of our governments take away money from their citizens, to further provide economic aid- welfare, to a foreign parent entity?

 
bolls 2023-12-23 15:33:46 

MULLAH FAKIR BUYING IT FROM THE FUNDED MONEY FROM PAK.

DEDING WID LAF PAKI SKUNTS.

lollollollollollol

 
XDFIX 2023-12-23 16:11:31 

In reply to Emir

My thinking too, capitalism gone mad!

 
XDFIX 2023-12-23 16:12:31 

In reply to FanAttick

Endorse!

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 16:41:25 

In reply to XDFIX
Dem think these poor ass territories gwin subsidize their private teams like sports teams in US cities. Kerry on dreamers!

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 16:44:36 

In reply to positiveg
That is precisely what he is seeking.

 
Narper 2023-12-23 18:10:17 

In reply to Chrissy

"I could not continue to operate a franchise cricket team in a country where the government refuses to provide any financial support for the tremendous economic and social benefits it receives from event held on their behalf in and and out of Jamaica," Persaud, whose original name is Krishna Prasad, told Cricbuzz.

"We won the tournament in 2022 and received no acknowledgement/appreciation from anyone in the government, and so we have decided to cut our losses and leave the situation to the CPL. (We're) looking forward to exciting times in Antigua where cricket is an intrinsic part of the culture."

link

 
Narper 2023-12-23 18:13:11 

Persaud has not yet decided on the name of the Antigua franchise but he is confident that he will have a few Antiguans on his side as players and coaching staff. Bowling legend Curtly Ambrose is an assistant coach. As for the name, Persaud said he will leave it to the public. "We are taking names from the public and will decide upon them early next year. We already have Curtly Ambrose as the assistant coach to the new team open to including other Antiguan legends as mentors of the team. We plan to help flourish grassroots cricket all over the island," he told this website.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-23 18:17:59 

In reply to Chrissy

Yeah, government handout to make them rich and poor people poorer!

 
Narper 2023-12-23 18:20:05 

In reply to FanAttick

Jamaica Tallawahs need Jamaican ownership....plain and simple....where are the Jamaican businessmen?
Jamaican cricket legends must be involved in Jamaica Tallawahs.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-23 18:21:00 

"I could not continue to operate a franchise cricket team in a country where the government refuses to provide any financial support for the tremendous economic and social benefits it receives from event held on their behalf in and and out of Jamaica," Persaud, whose original name is Krishna Prasad, told Cricbuzz.


Liberty comes through carelessness!

 
Brerzerk 2023-12-23 18:31:35 

In reply to XDFIX
Fi real, that there is liberty. It is not like JA isn't breaking tourism arrival records on its own.
I detest the idea of franchises here in the US and everywhere else owned by rich people but
subsidized by the masses. However, if Tallawahs become a Yard own franchise it would be just
a wee bit more appropriate for Tourist Board to be one of the sponsors along with companies such
as Grace, Sandals and mo' that could cover some of the costs. Weren't some of Tallawah's matches
played in Florida? when he talks bull-pucky about on JA Govt's behalf did he include those too?

 
Emir 2023-12-23 18:45:37 

In reply to Brerzerk

A person running a business- a for profit business, wants Jamaican tax payers to foot a subsidy, why? If the business isn't making money, then it is management to blame, not the customers or the city/country where the business is located.

Why should poor Jamaicans pay the bills for a business? Which executive will go about demanding or expecting a "thank you" from the government where their business is located.

What has the business done to make it profitable in the biggest market in the WI?

 
doosra 2023-12-23 20:21:24 

In reply to Emir

i take it you do not pay serious mind to the 'economic benefit to country' reports by the CPL (whoever commission and publish them)?

 
cumberland 2023-12-23 20:22:46 

In reply to Narper

And that is what most commentators on the subject not addressing. It flummoxed me from the earliest that Jamaican moneymen and or enterprises didn't get on board. If any franchise in the CPL needed organic ownership the Tallawahs was it, one could argue TKR but they already had a strong foreign connect.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 20:40:48 

In reply to Narper
Why should Jamaica subsidize lickit.
Better we invest in education or track and field.
Hope allyuh see Australian cities turning down the Commonwealth Games.
A set of mostly men and some women living like royalty while our poor ass taxpayers subsidizing foreign owned teams. At least our overseas players send home remittances.
Bare stupidness.

 
Narper 2023-12-23 21:19:43 

In reply to Chrissy

Why should Jamaica subsidize lickit.


Is it a subsidy or an investment?.....
Barbados has been optimizing sports tourisim for a long time....England playing....Barbados have more tourists....T20 world cup....the island will be BIM full of tourists
Antigua will do so soon in the CPL with a local franchise
Ask Jumpstart about the number of tourists at the cricket in Trinidad....many many cruise ships are booked to visit T&T
Guyana has been pushing a CPL cricket carnival....more and more overseas Guyanese are booking for next year already.....tourists are not always 'foreign white tourists'. Just look at T&T carnival every year.....a large percentage of 'tourists' are overseas trinis
If Jamaica don't need the CPL....then so be it....then maybe poor ass taxpayers will be happy and foreign team owners will be happy to invest elsewhere

 
Chrissy 2023-12-23 21:33:15 

Why should our governments subsidize the tourist industr?
Tourism will never solve this region’s problems.
Schools and hospitals deteriorating by the hour not to mention parochial roads while tax paying locals are being stopped while traveling on de own business, work, whatever fi some damn tourist bus. Fyah bun dat madness.

 
googley 2023-12-23 22:03:20 

In reply to Narper

Jamaica Tallawahs need Jamaican ownership....plain and simple....where are the Jamaican businessmen?
Jamaican cricket legends must be involved in Jamaica Tallawahs.


Are you saying only then the government will participate in helping to stage CPL games locally? Has the gov't said why they decided not to work with the CPL/owner ?

 
googley 2023-12-23 22:05:02 

In reply to Chrissy

Why should our governments subsidize the tourist industr?


They gladly accept the tax dollars gained from the tourist industry, however!

 
Narper 2023-12-23 22:10:52 

In reply to googley

Has the gov't said why they decided not to work with the CPL/owner ?


Nope, not to my knowledge.

but its obvious senior yardie players like Gayle, Russell and Powell were not happy with the ownership and management

 
Emir 2023-12-24 13:14:54 

In reply to doosra

No, not at all. CPL games do not rake in tourist dollars. The CPL authored reports cannot stand up to competent economic analysis.

 
Emir 2023-12-24 13:21:13 

In reply to Chrissy


Why should Jamaica subsidize lickit.


No good reason to do so

Cricket and Trinidad Carnival from a tourist revenue perspective has never been profitable. Reports over state revenue and understate profits because it fails to count all the down stream expenses and opportunity cost.

NY Guyanese go to GT for CPL, they will do so regardless, no advertising or government subsidy is needed to attract them. Likewise for Carnival, Trinis from North America and Europe will go regardless. Govt subsidy covers up poor management and inefficient leadership.

 
StumpCam 2023-12-24 14:27:59 

In reply to Narper

Yard problems!razz

 
Narper 2023-12-29 18:03:22 

Former Tallawahs CEO, Jeff Miller, shed more light on this lack of support from the Government.

“Over the years, we have failed to get any backing or support from the Jamaican Government. We have submitted proposals over the years requesting Government support and we have failed to reach some kind of agreement to say that the Government is supporting the franchise,” Miller told SportsMax.tv in an interview on Wednesday.

“The business plan of CPL entails that the Governments play a major role in financial support of the franchises and that’s what the other franchises are receiving from their respective countries and Jamaica has failed to participate in those environs,” he added.

“When you don’t have home games, you’re losing ticket sales, you’re losing merchandising, you’re losing concession, you’re losing sponsors. So, it’s not only the government support, you’re losing others as well because what business would want to support a franchise and they can’t get any benefits from the franchise playing within the country? For what we see, there were no games scheduled for 2024 either! It’s unsustainable,” Miller added.

link

 
Halliwell 2023-12-29 18:17:41 

In reply to Narper

Well what do you expect???

Only a couple islands were FOR the franchise thing, and all others were happy playing the country-specific T20 league.

Let the owners fund the tournament and keep their ‘profits’.

 
StumpCam 2023-12-29 18:29:04 

In reply to Halliwell

So, you never notice all the tourism advertisement from the individual countries during CPL?? I doubt whether that is beneficial to the respective owners!
Maybe, Jamaica is not as reliant on CPL for tourists as much as the other territories!

 
Narper 2023-12-29 20:31:54 

In reply to Halliwell

Let the owners fund the tournament and keep their ‘profits’.

Only Jamaica seem to have a problem with CPL franchise arrangement....other big nations like T&T, Barbados and Guyana have made the arrangement work....and ALL the dots are happy too

 
hubert 2023-12-29 21:04:49 

In reply to Chrissy

Said this from he outset. Utilising our national symbols was beyond a sin.
West Indies Board which is and always has been a Private entity ,has been
a welfare recipient from all the governments since its existence.
Some people are just now waking up to this Colonial Construct which should
have gone the way of the Soviet Union a long time.
The Labour Party is doing right in cutting the Apron strings of this Body and
its surrogate the CPL and instead spend money to revitalize the Game from youth/school levels
for the future as it is possible that 20/20 will be a long term activity in the Olympics.
Development of Jamaica's cricket to compare with the Athletics, Football and netball should be the priority
and sole endeavor.
Other Islands /Territories can do what is best for them. Jamaica should effect this paradigm shift
and call it what ever.
The reservation I have tho is that the JLP was never a party that cared that highly about Nationalism
and the situation that it faces has more to do with their incompetence ,lack of insight rather than om
any path to build Sports and especially cricket.
So much may not come of this as they have no plan to embrace bold change and development
of cricket and certainly no vision looking towards Olympic Participation.
I have no confidence hat any Jamaica Government is so inclined to b so forward looking or committed
on this front.
Maybe the JLP will surprise me..BUT I ain't holding my breath. The PNP or current opposition is even
worse. They have no good plans for anything ...so the false notes on that musical scales will continue
to be just that..false.
The first order of business is to see that the JCA gets off its sorry asrse and get the game moving
throughout the Island and partner with the Government and Private Sector to energize and fund the effort.
Without this,cricket will not recover and is bound for Dovecot provided there is space in that place
to accommodate it.

 
StumpCam 2023-12-29 21:18:32 

In reply to hubert

The Labour Party is doing right in cutting the Apron strings of this Body and
its surrogate the CPL and instead spend money to revitalize the Game from youth/school levels
for the future as it is possible that 20/20 will be a long term activity in the Olympics.
Development of Jamaica's cricket to compare with the Athletics, Football and netball should be the priority
and sole endeavor.


Every nation has the right to what they feel is in the best interest of their citizens! No argument there!
I know Jamaicans are very proud of their accomplishments in Athletics, Football and Netball, however, isn't true that most of these athletes make a professional living overseas, whereas CPL offers the opportunity for Caribbean cricketers to be professionals right at home???

 
Chrissy 2023-12-29 22:35:23 

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