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How many like Jacob Bethel have we missed

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allan 9/13/24, 10:48:12 PM
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debut: 2/9/03
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- we bleeding talent like crazy
Jumpstart 9/13/24, 11:51:32 PM
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In reply to allan

the better question is how many mediocre bajans we got or were forced upon us
doosra 9/13/24, 11:54:36 PM
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In reply to allan

here is a better question

how many have you kept but failed to develop?

didn't he leave early?
camos 9/14/24, 12:02:01 AM
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In reply to allan

was that guy ever a WI prospect?
WIForever 9/14/24, 12:11:42 AM
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In reply to camos

He left at 12 years on a scholarship with the intention to play for England ultimately.


A no-brainer which country any aspiring cricketer would pick. Financially and cricket development wise.
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Raskil 9/14/24, 12:19:02 AM
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In reply to doosra

That IS the better question.
Jumpstart 9/14/24, 12:51:24 AM
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In reply to doosra

That list is exhaustive........dave mohammed, assad fudadin, vasbert drakes, amit jaggernauth, robert samuels, ...........ricardo powell. as i said in an earlier post, west indies since we were overthrown in 1995 has had a few cricketers that were ready for the international game from the time they started: ganga, gayle, sarwan, dj bravo, adrian bharath, xavier marshall, whose biggest fan was Ian Chappell, and lately shamar and jayden seales. others required nurturiung ands chances to develop, which they never got. WI cricket should be taught in universities as how not to manage a human resource pool
tc1 9/14/24, 12:53:14 AM
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tell us about those great young tits players ?
Ray123 9/14/24, 2:16:39 AM
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Lara. The End. lol
tc1 9/14/24, 9:38:39 PM
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Jumpy will say Lincoln Roberts
Castled 9/14/24, 9:57:18 PM
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In reply to tc1

lol

Jumpy avoided the 1984 team story. The 1984 selection is arguably the greatest test line up of all time. Bajans dominated those great Windies teams of the 80's. Jumpy's favorite Gomes although dependable was second string to the main cast.
Baje 9/15/24, 10:57:22 PM
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We have lots of talent in Caribbean but don't know how to develop it. Rivals Clarke was better than Bethel, where is he now?
Archer was a discard...
seaegg99 9/16/24, 2:14:01 AM
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Barbados (good ole boy) selectors kill the youths progress over the years. Rivaldo and Bethel were on the same path. Bethel's family figure this was the best path for him. Bim still playing games with Rivaldo. He should've been Barbados kepper last year not Dowrich. These fools have no vision at all.
PalsofMine 9/16/24, 3:38:41 AM
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debut: 2/2/23
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maybe he will get smart and move to the islands like Greaves and Springer and get some play
WIForever 9/16/24, 3:50:13 AM
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Put these same cricketers in a system with proper 365 development and they will excel.
openning 9/16/24, 4:02:41 PM
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Barbados (good ole boy) selectors kill the youths progress over the years. Rivaldo and Bethel were on the same path. Bethel's family figure this was the best path for him. Bim still playing games with Rivaldo. He should've been Barbados kepper last year not Dowrich. These fools have no vision at all.

What difference does it make?
The BCA doesn't have the structure for the development of players.
Ryan Hinds and hundreds of others were part of the structure.
Has the BCA produced a batsman since Desmond Haynes?
Jumpstart 9/16/24, 4:50:57 PM
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debut: 11/30/17
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In reply to Castled

what year is barbados living in.....is it 2016 like in ethiopia so that bajans believe their glory days are closer to them than they actually are
Jumpstart 9/16/24, 5:05:12 PM
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allan 9/16/24, 5:23:56 PM
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look at India
they have 4 teams ( ABCD) playing 4 day cricket
We might not have the pool like them
but we could have at least 22 players outside of CPL now playing 4 day cricket
- kraigg
- Jos
- Hodge
etc
tc1 9/16/24, 5:28:25 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

At.least Bim had glory days.
Jumpstart 9/16/24, 5:38:45 PM
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And trinidad did not?
Before the parasitic CPL
De coral rock ever beat TT in a t20? if im not mistaken, TT only ever lost to windwards and guyana in the caribbean from 2008-2013. And only to mumbai indians, NSW and a inconsequential game vs sunrisers hyderbad. never lost to CSK, beat then ipl champs deccan(fidel was in that side)
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openning 9/17/24, 2:21:28 AM
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The man is speaking of J&W league cricket.
Onionman0 9/17/24, 4:45:00 PM
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When we talk about players from other countries playing for England.....Small, Defreites,Lamb,Robin Smith,Holliake bros,Peterson,Curran bros, many more....

Reasons vary from political to economy..... England being a developed country, gave the players life style...these players hardly could imagine same playing for country of birth....

Even players, who played for their country of birth......after successful career choose to settle in Britain.....

As for Bethell ......the lad after playing 20 First Class matches @ 25 , bowling 7 wickets @ 96...... white ball no better.....

Talent or not..... in future, it can be seen but.... can't imagine a player with same playing record is selected for West Indies team......all posters, who are full of praise for England selectors, system et al....... would lampoon the West Indies administration for similar act .....

Smell the Coffee.....
Jumpstart 9/17/24, 4:54:58 PM
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he man is speaking of J&W league cricket.

maybe, but the owners of that league have seen very few bajan players useful enough to give them a pay day......holder, rtn as a mascot and hope.
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openning 9/17/24, 5:18:00 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to Jumpstart

League cricket has been around for over 50 years, it meant nothing to me at that time and T20 league cricket means nothing to me now.
It the same as Curry Goat cricket, only different people get paid for playing it.
West Indies could easily change T20 to a Six hitting contest.
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