Anybody willing to put Value on Sammys

the massive decline in west indian performances can be attributed to sammy's ascension and the behaviors of the board that caused it

his limited success as CPL captain/ coach

Hahahahahahahahaha. Now you are just a lying skunt.

FFS.

I posit that the massive decline is due to D Ramnarine's combative hateful nonsense...and 'ascension' of a few indivduals financial interests over the sustainability Windies cricket.

and that is the issue genius. the massive decline in west indian performances can be attributed to sammy's ascension and the behaviors of the board that caused it.

Head Coach in franchisee and international team.....two totally different........ comparison between two ....chalk and cheese......

Franchisee team is built around few very good/ great foreign T20 players..... with some locals....club and international players..... it's more a commercial entertainment event.......players are picked for commercial success, if a player or coach fail....kicked out next season...

et me throw this one in here to boot.

Stadium named after him

and their newly crowned Sprint Queen referenced him as a Local Hero as well.

All I am saying is that-

Sammy's story should be inspirational to everyone who has been told..you aint good enough, you aint talented enough and you will fail...and yet he somehow keeps achieving against all the odds.

This is the SAME Sammy that stood up to Cameron btw ...and went on in 2016 to win that World Cup

Stadium named after him

Lara's record speaks for itself. What was his test record as captain? What was his ODI record as captain?

You are such a homeboy instead of accept any failings, shortcomings, and criticisms you project this ridiculous stance that the Trinis did nothing wrong. And that weakens any point you are making.

Taylor says he was 'undermined' by senior teammates during the 2012 tour of the West Indies and claims he overheard Jacob Oram - who was a Central Districts teammate - tell Kyle Mills "I told you those f**kers were going to drop you" when the bowler missed selection for the fourth ODI.

“In terms of being undermined, that West Indies trip was actually worse than the Sri Lankan tour when it all came to a head. Some of the senior players would be down the back of the bus talking really loudly to people back home in New Zealand - the likes of Heath Mills - about me and the support staff.”

that is smoke and mirrors and actually makes my point all the more for me.

He still has to lead, manage now..not just Lucians , not just brothers from the region...but players from so called better set up infrastructural teams and races and cultures and practices...and get them all to produce.

However, many considered Lara’s innings to be a selfish one – Ricky Ponting was particularly critical of it. "It's generally not the way we play our cricket," he said. "Their whole first innings might have been geared around one individual performance and they could have let a Test match slip because of it. They ran out of time in the game - that's not the way the Australian team plays."

Former England captain Tony Greig too seemed to echo Ponting’s views, even attacking Lara’s captaincy credentials. "I'm certainly not raving about the innings. I have to praise it for the sheer fact that he stayed in for so long but it wasn't an innings that you could be in awe of. It was clear he had the record in mind and was just going to keep on grinding it out until he got there. As far as I'm concerned that is not a good way to play the game, especially when you're the captain. It shows that Brian Lara is not a very good captain," he said.

Brian Lara was hailed by the world's media for his recent 400 not out score against England in Antigua in the final Test of the 2004 Cable and Wireless Series. Here are a selection of tributes, from the press of the United Kingdom and India:

THE DAILY TELEGRAPH (UK): "Lara's achievement is a feat of amazing endurance every bit as much as one of skill. Probably, he is not the best player in the world anymore, but he is still the best at big scores. Given that he is 35 and carrying a pound or two more than in his youth, Lara is proof of the power of the mind - he was at the wicket for 13 hours, for heaven's sake. No man cuts the ball with such precision and along such angles; few drive with equal elan; only the cricketers of the subcontinent and Mark Waugh in the modern era, use their wrists so gleefully to ease the ball through leg-side spaces. Brian Lara is a cricketer who makes magic: the surprise is how long he remains able to sustain it."

MANCHESTER EVENING NEWS (UK): "That Lara regained the record playing in a West Indies side which is a shadow of their 1994 counterparts at the fag end of a miserable series for the hosts makes the achievement more rather than less remarkable. It is far from a perfect story but when the tide goes out on the current era of cricket only a few traces will be left - Shane Warne's twisting fingers, Sachin Tendulkar's graceful power and Lara's raised-bat aggression."

REDIFF.COM (INDIA): Indian, Pakistani stars hail Lara: "Amazing achievement," said Sachin Tendulkar, the man often racing the left-handed genius for the numero uno spot in the rankings. "One of the best batsman of my generation, if not the best ever. Such innings can never be planned, they just happen."

Sourav Ganguly: "Great knock," he said. "I was not going to be surprised if he crossed 400 and he did just that. When he is in full flow, there is no better sight in world cricket."
Virender Sehwag, the latest entry in the 300 club, said there was no comparison. "When Lara scored his 300 he was 24, I am 25," Sehwag said.

Pakistan skipper Inzamam-ul-Haq, also a member of the 300 club, said Lara's performance was out of this world and he has duly taken back what was his - the record of highest Test score.
Former Pakistan skipper and coach Javed Miandad said, "The score is not the great part of the innings, but the fact that he held the record, saw it being broken, and then snatched it back is what is so great about the innings. Any of the top three batsmen in the world like Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Ponting, or Matthew Hayden could have done it if the conditions had suited them like they suited Lara. My guess is that one of the Indian batsmen or Inzamam-ul-Haq will break the record."

Compiled by the Sporting Life:

THE SUN (UK): "Brian Lara rewrote cricket history when he became the first batsman to score 400 in a Test."

DAILY MAIL (UK): "Brian Lara celebrated the 10th anniversary of his previous record hammering of England by again making the highest score in Test history with an unbeaten 400 yesterday in the final match of the series at St John's."

THE TIMES (UK): "To break the most famous of all batting records once might conceivably be ascribed to good fortune. To do it twice is proof of pure genius."

THE DAILY TELEGRAPH (UK): "World records are destined to be set by only a chosen few, so when Brian Lara reclaimed the world record Test score with an unbeaten 400 in Antigua yesterday, six months after it was taken off him by Australia's Matthew Hayden, something extraordinary was afoot."

THE GUARDIAN (UK): "Brian Lara promised West Indies cricket a legacy and, yesterday, in front of a cacophonous crowd at the Recreation Ground, each and every one of whom will tell their grandchildren they were there, he delivered, as if to order, the highest individual score in Test match history."

2016, he passed his used by date.... understood his time gone.... became a rebel....now awarded with head coach job...

So you start following West Indies cricket in 2015 or so?

Awarded? He is not qualified?

Sammy has coaching experience in the CPL and the PSL, but this will be his first assignment in international cricket. While Sammy is not a certified coach, Shallow pointed out that he fulfilled all the criteria necessary for a coaching role. "There's a different set of criteria that you know don't necessarily need to be a Level 3 [coach]," Shallow said. "It's ideal, but when we go through the different assessments, he certainly qualified to be the head coach, which is why he was shortlisted in the first place and then he was interviewed by a panel of five."