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Why bat Shai Hope at 4 in ODI’s

 
imusic 2024-10-20 16:39:35 

When he has such success averaging 50
Plus I believe opening the batting in this format?

Why would any coach make such a decision?

If Hope, as captain, made the decision……it was just a stupid decision that made no sense.

You put an inexperienced player with 10 ODI’s to his name who doesn’t open to open in Hope’s place.

Crazy

 
imusic 2024-10-20 16:48:14 

I wonder what the explanation will be…..

Testing resources to gain experience?

Or maybe…..coach thinks the move was morally successful and felt like he at least made a half century in those conditions?

 
Onionman0 2024-10-20 16:49:10 

In reply to imusic

Totally agree with you....

A player averaging 50 as opener....demoted to 4.....
Rubbish by management...... Your best batsmen should bat at 1,2,3&4....
In any format...

 
doosra 2024-10-20 17:34:28 

In reply to imusic

if i recall right i think he made the decision or perhaps they collectively for him to bat closer to the middle and be a finisher sort of....or at least that is what we heard

i think overall the move was to support his t20 development

 
imusic 2024-10-20 17:39:51 

In reply to doosra

Have to question that decision making.

That explanation doesn’t make me go “ok……I can understand the thought process here”

If anything, it’s more of a “HUH???” moment.

 
TanteMerle 2024-10-20 17:43:28 

In reply to doosra

It was an experiment that failed.

Time to move on.

When Pooran is here, he should keep wicket.

Hope should open.

The main issue with the squad in Sri Lanka is bowling.

Without Hosein and Russell, this attack looks toothless.

 
doosra 2024-10-20 18:02:07 

In reply to imusic

yea maybe they will rethink it but clearly Shai is looking to go more that route so not sure he is going to go back to anchoring

 
doosra 2024-10-20 18:02:48 

In reply to TanteMerle

Russell and Hosein haven't played ODIs a while and WI won at home

the ball was wet so it's hard to judge

on paper it is a decent attack

 
TanteMerle 2024-10-20 18:17:19 

 
brians_da_best 2024-10-21 07:01:23 

In reply to imusic

Lara batted at 4 or 5 for most of his career. Opened right at the start, then worked his way down to 3, and then 4 and 5

Maybe a similar reasoning applies to Hope?

 
Onionman0 2024-10-21 08:31:35 

In reply to brians_da_best

Or Tendulkar started at 6......but moved up to open....continued till retirement....

Or Saurav

Or Mark Waugh
............list endless....

This experiment failed as Pooran batting at 3.....

This Hope at 4 ..... experiment start just between qualifiers 2023......both openers Charles,Mayers & King all failed....West Indies failed to qualify...

Now, Qualification 2027.....We presently at 10th....

 
Seechy 2024-10-21 13:50:20 

On paper, we may qualify if we play the following line-up:

1. King/Lewis
2. Hope
3. Carty
4. Pooran
5. Hetmyer
6. Rutherford
7. Shepherd
8. Holder
9. Motie
10. Alzarri
11. Shamar

 
natty_forever 2024-10-21 14:00:29 

In reply to Seechy

T20?
Pooran at 3.
King and Lewis open
So Hope at 4.

50/50
Hope and King to open.

 
natty_forever 2024-10-21 14:03:10 

If I was admin, one would have to play 4 day cricket as well as 50/50 cricket for selection to 50/50. The progression should be from 50/50 to test. See this working for the Ozzies

 
Seechy 2024-10-21 14:07:55 

In reply to natty_forever

The squad I posted is for ODI.

 
Onionman0 2024-10-22 04:01:23 

In reply to Seechy

Your team good.....

King looks good but has failed till date.... although got all formats contract
My team...
Lewis
Hope
Carty
.Hety
Pooran
Chase
Rutherford
Holder
Motie
Joseph
Shamar

Reserves
King
Athanaze
Shepherd
Akeal

A leggie or offie ..... Sinclair or Walsh

 
Narper 2024-10-22 21:34:07 

Check these stats by batting positions

 
anthonyp 2024-10-22 21:37:13 

In reply to Narper

De man averaging 60 as an opener and they got him batting at 4?

Damn, we got some geniuses in the caribbean...

 
anthonyp 2024-10-22 21:42:31 

Btw if Pooran and Hety in the same squad for t20s or ODIs they need to bat at #3 and 4... Fit the others around them.

1. Hope
2. King/Lewis/Mayers or another opener
3. Pooran
4. Hety
5. Carty
6. Rutherford/Chase
7. Chase/Hosein
8. Holder/Shepy
9. Motie
10. Alzarri
11. Shamar/Seales

 
mikelegend 2024-10-22 22:50:13 

In reply to anthonyp

This should be the core for the World Cup FOR NOW. I’d add Jewel Andrew.

 
anthonyp 2024-10-23 00:00:37 

In reply to mikelegend

Jewel
Anderson
Wickham
Athanaze

Those four should be in the mix... hopefully they make use of the super50.

 
imusic 2024-10-23 00:44:58 

In reply to anthonyp

Good squad

Only one iffy selection. I’m not convinced by Seales in LO cricket……not yet anyway.

Forde might be a better pick

 
Onionman0 2024-10-23 05:32:15 

This love for Mayers are opener....be it bowling or batting......despite failures qualifier in T20 in Australia or ODI qualifiers in Zimbabwe...

AMAZING!!!!