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2 Game suspension for AlJo

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positiveg 11/7/24, 11:21:45 PM
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Cricket West Indies (CWI) has imposed a two-match suspension on fast bowler Alzarri Joseph following an on-field incident during the 3rd CG United ODI at the Kensington Oval, Barbados

"Alzarri's behavior did not align with the core values that Cricket West Indies upholds.
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positiveg 11/7/24, 11:24:18 PM
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Fair to me two games. Aome was saying send him home. Nope suspend him let him sit on thr bench as the match plays. When he comes back game 3. Different mood Different vibe. But the firewould still be there. WI need thay fire. More players need to play with intensity if trams are to take us seriously.
positiveg 11/7/24, 11:25:18 PM
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Joseph also issued a public apology, acknowledging the incident and expressing regret.

"I recognize that my passion got the best of me,"
he said.

"I have personally apologized to Captain Shai Hope, my teammates and management. I also extend my sincerest apologies to the West Indies fans—I understand that even a brief lapse in judgment can have a far-reaching impact, and I deeply regret any disappointment caused."
bobby 11/7/24, 11:27:05 PM
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Our cricket is weak so a weak judgement by CWI is not surprising. There is no announcement about sending him to anger management counselling. Alzarri seems introverted and permanently angry. He needs help more than he needs punishment.
positiveg 11/7/24, 11:30:53 PM
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In reply to bobby

Who say that won't happen? To me no need to mention that to the public. That part is internal matter
Cause he doesn't jump around and flip in the air when he takes a wicket means what? Right now the line and length and speed at which he bowl in his first two spells best he ever bowl in a while. Maybe he needs to learn how to internalize his vexation into bowling similar spells to the opposition.
Plus one thing I learned from a therapist is that a lot of time when we see something go down look for the deeper issue
TanteMerle 11/7/24, 11:43:51 PM
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Punishment given, apology given.

Time to move forward.

I hope Alzarrie get any help that he needs.
voiceofreason 11/7/24, 11:47:51 PM
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How do these people know that Alzharris is permanently angry? Do they know him? Have they ever spoken to him?

For me I like his mannerisms on the field. I serious when I come to compete and I am into no skin teeth with anybody. That is a good fast-bowling mentality! I wish other players had that competitive juice!

You know what is disappointing to me is that Alzharri is one of the few players who have made themselves available for all formats for West Indies cricket while others pick and choose. Alzharri remains loyal to WI cricket. Yet fans lambasting him from every direction.

This was an isolated incident and a 2 game suspension is fitting.

Let us move on.
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powen001 11/7/24, 11:48:43 PM
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In reply to positiveg

Who say that won't happen? To me no need to mention that to the public. That part is internal matter


I agree with you here.

and from this distance- Lets hope AJ does indeed find the inner peace HE needs...even if none of us EVER see it on his face on the field of play.
bobby 11/7/24, 11:53:43 PM
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In reply to positiveg

He has been playing for 8 years and has one 5fer in tests and one in ODI. A large percentage of his wickets are tailenders. He has speed but he needs help both with his bowling and anger issues. He also needs rest. He has been playing non-stop for at least 3 years. All 3 formats for CWI, then CPL, IPL and Super 50. His head and body need a rest to re-charge.
positiveg 11/8/24, 12:18:14 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

You know I was thinking about this same thing. When called upon he's there. Even if it means coming back from a t20 tourney while others say let me stay over there sit in the bench and let Wai cricket rest so Ling over there.
But yes. He get suspended which best course of action and better course is make sure he's at the game so he sits and watch. Plus knowing the only reason he's not out there is his own doing. So when he comes back he learn to put that anger into proper bowling line and length and to the opponents.
voiceofreason 11/8/24, 12:24:01 AM
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In reply to positiveg The Man got a Mil from RCB did he say let me forego this West Indies series to avoid getting injured? No. People need to look at things on a wholesome perspective and not isolated as it comes off as being myopic and biased.

Once he is suspended I do not believe he will remain with the team. Like some other Poster said send the clown home, yes he will be at home with his family.
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Emir 11/8/24, 12:31:06 AM
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In reply to positiveg

"I recognize that my passion got the best of me,"
he said.


A weak apology and his agent manager who probably wrote this is doing him no justice.

Bad behavior has nothing to do with passion
positiveg 11/8/24, 12:49:27 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Well the first two games in Bim so guess he rejoins the team then in Loosia. Different environment. Days should make him realise his actions.

Remind me of Deis Rodman. We need a fre more guys make them Bad Boys like the early 90s late 80s Detroit Pistons
Jammal22 11/8/24, 2:28:12 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

"While I don't typically agree with you, I do agree with you on this occasion.

Yes, Aljo made a mistake, and fans are understandably disappointed that he has not achieved greater success.

However, he remains one of the few, if not the only player who has consistently demonstrated a deep commitment to West Indian cricket across all formats.

The man screwed up and has paid for it, cut him some slack.

Talking about the man being permanently mad is stupid. I had the opportunity to meet Aljo once, and while he is direct in his approach, he is also personable and cool."
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Conorboy 11/8/24, 2:51:38 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Absolutely correct, maybe loyalty and will to win are the values that mean most to Joseph and in overdrive they can be a problem however give me those values any day.
He has never to my eyes been one to up his game and show more fight when playing franchise cricket, no, Windies to me his his first love.
He has, and hopefully he will continue to be a great servant to WI cricket.
Joshua 11/8/24, 3:56:56 AM
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does CWI no longer have a disciplinary committee and a code of conduct to deal with these matters? as wrong as joseph was, under what authority did the director of cricket and coach decide on the ban and its length? so in the future the director of cricket and coach can just decide to ban a player if there is an issue without any hearing or process?
hubert 11/8/24, 1:00:31 PM
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In reply to Joshua

Good question.. Two days or two matches do not seem to meet any standard./
1 He disrespected the captain
2. Left the field without permission..i e abandoned his team
3. No respect to the officials. Did he inform the umpires of his actions ?
4. Breach of ICC standards and .....

Additionally a strong captain would have kept him in the pavilion for the duration of the game.
Discipline is discipline .He is a senior player and been around for a while.

On those counts if guilty, he should have been made to miss this entire series.
He needs time, not only to reflect but get help.
Was he not just a vice captain, therefore a leader?
Apology does not erase the deeds. They are on his CV for ever.

And to Joshua's point, a disciplinary committee should have been involved in this matter.
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PalsofMine 11/8/24, 1:04:50 PM
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How do we know that it wasnt? And in any event, AlJo is not complaining about that. I say that the proper body has dealt with the matter quickly and decisively so we can now put it to rest and hope that it never happens again. I respect AlJo very much for his dedication to playing for the WI and I am not losing any further sleep about this matter as it has been resolved.
DIEHARD 11/8/24, 1:07:45 PM
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In reply to hubert

He was VC?
voiceofreason 11/8/24, 1:11:50 PM
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In reply to Jammal22

However, he remains one of the few, if not the only player who has consistently demonstrated a deep commitment to West Indian cricket across all formats.


Outside of Jason Holder I do not know of any other player in the last 5-10 years. Motie, Atahanaze and Shamar have not played enough to assess.
voiceofreason 11/8/24, 1:30:29 PM
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In reply to hubert

Hubert go sit down with your draconian and outdated measures. You said he abandoned his team which suggests that he left the game and never came back? He left the field to cool himself which if you are talking about anger management that is the right thing to do. Leave the scene to cool your self. When you are determining punishment you must look at it holistically not in a bubble as whether or not this player has exhibited this kind of behavior before and what kind of commitment he has shown to the team over the years. I run my own business and if I have an employee who shows up to work everyday for 8 years and suddenly has an outburst where he walks out to cool off then come back will I should suspend him for 2 weeks without pay or fire him like some are suggesting here???

Thank God you not in charge of WI cricket!!!

Enough already.
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natty_forever 11/8/24, 1:40:59 PM
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In reply to positiveg

Yeah. Sendhim home. We never said for how long. big grin
Joshua 11/8/24, 1:43:14 PM
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In reply to PalsofMine

You completely miss the point of course Alzarri is happy with the outcome. The issue is the precedent has been set that CWI management and the coach can directly ban a player when there is a code of conduct in place and a process for dealing with these matters. In the future the management and coach can then ban a player if the player says something the coach doesnt like without the player having a hearing. Notice no reference in press release was made regarding violation of code of conduct, it was breach "standards of professionalism"

CWI has a integrity and dispute resolution committee that is chaired by Justice Patrick Thompson. When Hayley Matthews had an infraction the matter went through the correct process see here.

CWI has confirmed that Hayley Matthews will be eligible for selection from the third Colonial Medical Insurance One Day International against India Women. This follows her withdrawal from the previous series against Australia due to a breach of CWI’s Code of Conduct.

The matter was referred to the six- member CWI Disciplinary Committee headed by Independent Chairman, Justice Winston Anderson.

The Committee ruled that Matthews should be suspended for eight international matches, which will end after the second one-day international of the upcoming India series, which begins in Antigua on Friday 1st November.
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hubert 11/8/24, 4:42:50 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

You can as you do stand up for anything you want especially your business. I hope you also stand up
for good manners and proper behaviour and reward indiscipline within your domain. So an employee walking off
the job is nothing to you ?
Any employee who walks off my job without informing me has fired himself; no matter his years of service.
I know in Banana republics that exist in the Caribbean people put up with anything and such
actions are condoned or treated as normal.. Not within my domain.
Not only is this incident unsavoury but reflects badly in the International arena and certainly reflects badly on
the West Indies brand.
This is a fellow that has reached the level of Vice Captaincy of the Regional Team that represents all of YOU.
That punishment does not meet the 'crime'.
Knowing you as a contributor on this MB, were it a player from Jamaica, Barbados or any other team
except the Leewards or Antigua you would be of contrary view. Ain'.t ?
Don't fool yourself.
I must sit down. You Must Stand up for good discipline,manners and respect ,elements that embody his captain,team mates, Board,
Region and greater International Cricket community.

Different time and different people,but I wonder if he could do this fellow Antiguan Richards as his captain or Lloyd or even
think of this with Worrell's as his captain.
No wonder the cricket is of such low standards in these times.
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voiceofreason 11/8/24, 5:06:23 PM
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In reply to hubert

I know in Banana republics that exist in the Caribbean people put up with anything and such
actions are condoned or treated as normal.. Not within my domain


There you go with your condescending attacks. My business turns 16 in January. Not one size fits all.

Any employee who walks off my job without informing me has fired himself; no matter his years of service.


Don't even try to get to understand what caused his behavior as this being his first transgression. Interesting approach.

Not only is this incident unsavoury but reflects badly in the International arena and certainly reflects badly on
the West Indies brand.


Dude the man walked off the field and came back on. David Warner and Steve Smith did worse and where are they now?

Knowing you as a contributor on this MB, were it a player from Jamaica, Barbados or any other team
except the Leewards or Antigua you would be of contrary view. Ain'.t


I called for his punishment and that has been done. Never said once that what he did was right.

That punishment does not meet the 'crime'.


Too bad for you. It is fine with me and by next week we will move on.

I must sit down. You Must Stand up for good discipline,manners and respect ,elements that embody his captain,team mates, Board,
Region and greater International Cricket community.

Let he is without sin cast the first stone. People are not robot although your management style speaks to that.
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