Jacob Bethell
brians_da_best
11/27/24, 7:23:23 AM
debut: 11/13/02
18,988 runs
Why is he rated so highly?
ODI - averages 27 with the bat at a strike rate of 80 in 8 games
T20s - averages 57 with the bat at 168 SR (Excellent)
In FC and List A, he averages around 25 (mediocre)
Has taken a few wickets with the ball but batting is his stronger suite.
Now he's tipped to play one down for England in tests, with a 25 FC average?? like England following West Indies playbook?
Curtis
11/27/24, 11:15:16 AM
debut: 12/4/02
16,450 runs
In reply to brians_da_best
WI doesn't have a playbook, notes are scribbled on chefette napkins.
TanteMerle
11/27/24, 11:24:14 AM
Jumpstart
11/27/24, 12:47:06 PM
debut: 11/30/17
11,268 runs
In reply to Curtis
done know....de stick man has been filmed doing this many a time
PalsofMine
11/27/24, 3:06:19 PM
debut: 2/2/23
1,805 runs
I am looking forward to hearing about how Bethell does on the test team in comparison to say a Mykyle Louis or Athanaze in the WI.
StumpCam
11/27/24, 3:41:20 PM
debut: 1/1/04
12,518 runs
In reply to brians_da_best
Because England have decided to pick players that in their opinion will excel at the highest level regardless of FC statistics. So far he isn’t doing too bad.
Str8_Drive
11/27/24, 5:01:22 PM
debut: 3/26/05
514 runs
I remember when there was talk swirling around of Archer being inline for England there was also talk on this MB of him not being all that.
I suspect it will be the same with Bothell , he is only 21 years old and playing international cricket. He will gain lots of experience from just being the England dressing room and being in a professional environment year round will accelerate his progress in 2 years way beyond a west Indian "2 years".
Brerzerk
11/27/24, 5:10:20 PM
debut: 3/16/21
11,768 runs
In reply to Curtis
Stick-men are drawn. But, men gonna point you to Viv's FC avg when he debuted on tests as a co.parison with Beths.
Jumpstart
11/27/24, 5:17:18 PM
debut: 11/30/17
11,268 runs
In reply to Brerzerk
bethell aint viv. there was a trinidadian player who went to antigua to play combined islands. the tt coach was at pains to tell the side that whatever they did, don't hook andy roberts. so he went to the nets to have a practice and he saw viv in the nets hooking andy roberts. he went back to his coach and told him the best batsman in the world is an antiguan. viv had not played a test for the WI as yet
velo
11/27/24, 6:02:26 PM
debut: 7/29/19
4,549 runs
Bethell shaped up well in the cabibbean without having a big score .he will be tested in australia
tc1
11/27/24, 6:04:07 PM
debut: 6/12/04
18,026 runs
In reply to PalsofMine
Wrong comparison, you should compare Myklye to the young Bim player Kevin Wickham.
hawk
11/27/24, 10:49:17 PM
debut: 4/1/07
4,541 runs
I think too much time is spent discussing players who choose England over the West Indies
WIfan26
11/27/24, 11:58:40 PM
debut: 5/1/21
2,572 runs
In reply to brians_da_best
It's simple England has a depth chart and WI has no depth hence they can afford strange decisions WI cannot!!!
TanteMerle
11/28/24, 12:03:35 AM
debut: 2/22/04
8,554 runs
In reply to hawk
Ditto
Maybe it is cause dem are bajans
PalsofMine
11/28/24, 12:20:26 AM
debut: 2/2/23
1,805 runs
In reply to tc1
Wickham is definitely on my A team squad along with Jewel, Nandu, Goolie and Jangoo.
powen001
11/28/24, 12:36:03 AM
debut: 11/26/06
62,227 runs
In reply to tc1
Wrong comparison, you should compare Myklye to the young Bim player Kevin Wickham.
quiet applause
hawk
11/28/24, 4:30:09 AM
debut: 4/1/07
4,541 runs
In reply to TanteMerle
No they not.... Bajans represent Barbados and by extension the west indies, dem is Englishmen representing England
We should not concern ourselves with them, our focus should be our guys
Onionman0
11/28/24, 4:38:24 AM
debut: 3/6/20
4,279 runs
In reply to brians_da_best
Few months back, Bethell stats were discussed in this forum....all in 20's..... But still England decided that Bethell superseded other batters with better average...that too in test cricket vital position 3.....
This thinking is nothing but Bazball thinking.... with a vision....top 7 batters in England team vs N.Z. ....two all rounders.....Bethell & Strokes....
Out of 4 bowlers....Woakes is proper batter.. Atkinson just scored a century and Carse has F.C average of 31...
Overall....in this match England playing with 6 proper bowlers and batting upto 10...great balance for any team.....be it test or ODI
Secondly, by putting Bethell at 3, McCullum wants to develop the youngster under tutelage of Roots...a playing mentor....we may criticise Roach as playing mentor.....but it's always has been like this.... getting on field guidance from senior pro.....works wonder....which almost all country follows....
If Bethell experiment fails, some other may come in..As was the case of Sam Curran...
Curtis
11/28/24, 3:12:13 PM
debut: 12/4/02
16,450 runs
Even Lara coached Bethell
Should be repping WI, Bethell Should.
Skin color didn't help in this case.
Archer and Jordan, another two that got away, for other reasons.
What alyuh have against Bajans????
Halliwell
11/28/24, 3:25:40 PM
debut: 5/14/05
23,809 runs
In reply to Curtis
Bigger question might be what do Bajans have against representing Barbados.
openning
11/28/24, 4:16:27 PM
debut: 11/13/02
44,463 runs
In reply to Halliwell
Why don't you ask your siblings or relatives who moved away, why are they living and working abroad?
Baje
11/28/24, 4:53:40 PM
debut: 12/10/02
7,861 runs
In reply to Halliwell
Some of them would not be selected for Barbados or Windies teams.
Some of them like the security of a county contract
openning
11/28/24, 5:01:07 PM
debut: 11/13/02
44,463 runs
In reply to Baje
I asked during this year CPL why Barbadian cricketers contracted and played on every team.
I am yet to get an answer
hawk
11/28/24, 6:59:54 PM
debut: 4/1/07
4,541 runs
In reply to openning
I am sure I told you the reason is exposure. BCA indicated this long ago, that the aim is to Expose as many players as possible. not all can play for the pride at the same time
Also, consider players could be on loan to other teams as well, I don't think this is the case though.
ponderiver
11/28/24, 7:09:33 PM
debut: 1/27/04
22,330 runs
In reply to Halliwell
Bigger question might be what do Bajans have against representing Barbados
comeen sudden pantymerle and (not you Powen
the best poster from bim bar none)