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Fixed pitches are not in the Spirit of the Game!

 
voiceofreason 2025-01-19 11:46:51 

ICC needs to step in as this far too blatant. A pitch should not be taking bounce and turn like that from day one. It gives the home team an unfair advantage. Yes i know this been going on for years and England recently suffered the same fate but that don't make it right. ICC needs to manage the curation of pitches.

Less than 3 day test match is not value for money. Egregious fixing of pitches like this should be considered manipulating the outcome of matches.

 
velo 2025-01-19 12:16:40 

pak will counter and say they batted on the same pitch and three of their batsmen posted fifties in the match so the pitch was not unplayable its not their fault the opposition batsmen are technically deficient and at least a few of those dismissals were actually poor shots by the wi batsmen

 
PalsofMine 2025-01-19 12:20:46 

Unless you want all test cricket to be played on those pitches we had for England last series here when everyone and his brother were scoring centuries, then home advantage rules. I actually prefer seeing wickets fall than one man batting all day on a dead pitch.

 
dayne 2025-01-19 13:38:04 

Well, in the interest of business it is not a good idea to prepare pitches that are so friendly to bowlers, I guess the vendors at the ground and the TV advertisers are not please when a Test match only last three days.

 
voiceofreason 2025-01-19 14:24:17 

Pitch fixing is legal Match-fixing.

 
voiceofreason 2025-01-19 14:25:36 

In reply to velo

WI can counter and say well you all grew up and practiced in these conditions and we did not.

 
StumpCam 2025-01-19 14:26:24 

In reply to voiceofreason

Maybe it’s just the climatic conditions in that region of the world!

 
voiceofreason 2025-01-19 14:31:25 

In reply to StumpCam

I wish that were the case:

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan has been preparing a cricket pitch to assist spinners in the final match and Test series decider against England by using “industrial-sized fans, windbreakers and outdoor heaters” to dry out the surface, reported a leading cricket website on Tuesday.

It quoted Pakistani Captain Shan Masood as saying he would like to see an “uncharacteristic Rawalpindi pitch” for the decider beginning Thursday.

England Head Coach Brendon McCullum predicted that the pitch would be “the antithesis of a green seamer.


Really?

 
ray 2025-01-19 15:59:13 

In reply to voiceofreason

ANything to save Sammyyyyyybig grin

 
Drapsey 2025-01-19 16:27:06 

In reply to voiceofreason

Come on VOR, the Dottie miggle order not up to scratch. Admit it.

 
voiceofreason 2025-01-19 16:53:34 

In reply to Drapsey

Yeah Man Blackwood, Bonner and Brandon to the rescue.

 
Halliwell 2025-01-19 16:59:36 

There is no spirit of the game

It’s a bs phrase that the big teams use to their advantage over and over again

Between these 2 small teams let’s leave spirit of the game to what Courtney did all those years ago.

 
Maispwi 2025-01-19 17:44:56 

No pitch where 40 wickets are lost from 1,064 balls shud be deemed satisfactory for a Test match

 
Kay 2025-01-19 18:18:32 

In reply to Maispwi

Not even when it's #7 vs #8?

 
kgbcan 2025-01-19 18:24:56 

In reply to voiceofreason


ICC needs to manage the curation of pitches.


I am in agreement 100%!

 
Narper 2025-01-19 18:51:11 

In reply to voiceofreason

Pitch fixing is legal Match-fixing= legal home advantage

 
bobby 2025-01-19 18:52:16 

All teams are now fixing pitches to suit their strengths. This is now the norm. We simply cannot follow suit as we have neither bowlers nor batters who can play consistently. Stop stressing or stop following CWI cricket. As I have said many times, the majority of West Indians under 30 don't give a hoot. It is us old geezers in the diaspora who continue to live in the past. And T20 will not save us. Only the superbly gifted will be able to effectively play T20 without first class and test match experience. You must have the basic technique and understanding of any game to be able to play it. At the moment we have one world class T20 player in Pooran. When he retires, that will be the end of that. Do what I do. Go to Youtube and watch old games. I just watched 2 beautiful innings by the great Brian Charles Lara.

 
imusic 2025-01-19 19:01:27 

Welcome to the ultimate form of the game, the true test of cricketing ability

Glue pitch only reserved for lickit

THIS IS TEST CRICKET!!!!!!

Long may it reign! big grin

 
XDFIX 2025-01-19 19:06:25 

A bag of excuses - dat's all!

 
Baje 2025-01-19 22:38:19 

In reply to voiceofreason

We used to fix pitches

 
granite 2025-01-19 23:21:55 

On paper Pakistan can beat West Indies on any surface,spin or pace so there was no reason to fix a pitch that was so spin friendly,that is "stooping too low".I think VOR has a point "legal match fixing".

 
ray 2025-01-19 23:52:56 

Crybabies..take licks like a man....and do better next time

 
dayne 2025-01-20 01:26:38 

If the ICC bring into effect that 2 tiers system, more pitch doctoring will be practiced

 
voiceofreason 2025-01-20 01:32:36 

Every man jack will be fixing to get back to Tier 1.

 
Kay 2025-01-20 03:42:31 

In reply to voiceofreason

Every man jack will be fixing to get back to Tier 1.

Dude, every man jack is trying to do it right now but it takes some know how. I don't think West Indian curators have that sort of expertise. It's very high science if you know what ah mean ....

 
Brerzerk 2025-01-20 04:15:18 

In reply to granite

That trap er crap is baked in, know why? India after being owned at home vs RSA started this extreme home advantage by producing dustbowls that turned square on day one. And, India rules. Khaga will claim shiny 'Bina was extreme home advantage ignoring there were Bourda, QPO and Antigua.

 
Onionman0 2025-01-20 04:35:53 

In reply to voiceofreason

On the contrary....fixed pitches are not new phenomenon.....

In 70's & 80's.....West Indies, Australia used to have bouncy fast pitches...

Pakistan & India.... extreme turners....where Qadirs and Hirwanis used to flourish...


In 90's....West Indies pitches, somehow became slow..
Wasim, Waqar,Srinath, Munaf....came to forefront...

Pitches even out through out ...

But now, there is basically no fast bowler or spin bowler ruling world cricket.... techniques poor of batters...
So back to basic...doctored pitches.....same as 70's and 80's.....

Not always pays dividends...New Zealand blanked India....

West Indies spinners had Pakistan batters on rope....
Fingers crossed for second test....two West Indies batter excel.....we can square series...

 
Brerzerk 2025-01-20 07:06:19 

In reply to Onionman0

You are misunderstanding what fixed pitches really mean

 
Onionman0 2025-01-20 07:15:21 

In reply to Brerzerk

You are misunderstanding what fixed pitches really mean



Make me understand......

 
Trex 2025-01-21 15:51:20 

In reply to imusic

Welcome to the ultimate form of the game, the true test of cricketing ability

Glue pitch only reserved for lickit

THIS IS TEST CRICKET!!!!!!

Long may it reign!


Correcto!

 
openning 2025-01-21 20:17:43 

The first test was won by two batsmen, had someone batted with Athanaze in the second inning, there would have been a different story.
This series is not over, the same pitch I will keep the same X1.

It is not as if Pakistan was dominant in the match, Saud Shakeel 84 and Mohammad Rizwan 71 won the test for the home team.