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BeatDball 4/5/25, 2:41:41 PM
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debut: 7/20/14
16,574 runs

Is yellow the code? cool
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imusic 4/5/25, 2:47:44 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to BeatDball

Nice try to obfuscate.

Focus on yuh twit deliberately crashin Allyuh economy

The only person in history to bankrupt a casino.

Seriously……how does one bankrupt a money printing entity?

Your boy……DJT……

Fox News……..forever talking about the stock market.

Since January and now since “Liberation Day”…….not a peep about the markets on their site.
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Emir 4/5/25, 2:59:54 PM
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debut: 8/9/14
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In reply to BeatDball

Is yellow the code?


I hope not. The UNC under the current leader is a rural tribal racist party, she will take TT back to the 1950's before TT became a true nation. There are many good people in her party, but by associating with the leader, they have demonstrated poor decision making.

The PNM now remain the only true national party in TT- they are a representative of every creed and race. The PNM poor performance in the area of crime fighting has sadly created an opening for the UNC.

The best hope for TT is the PNM, and for the UNC to suffer another defeat, perhaps then the 30,000 party members will then vote out their current "leader" and Mikela Panday will take the reins and restore credibility to the opposition party. The country needs a strong opposition party, sadly we haven't had one for a many years now
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sgtdjones 4/5/25, 4:19:51 PM
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debut: 2/16/17
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In reply to Emir

Idiot read where the tribal racist party started with Eric Williams.

The ugliness of race again reared its head in 1958 when the People’s National Movement (PNM) was defeated in the elections for the first West Indian Federal Parliament. Williams, who was leader of the PNM, penned an article entitled "The danger facing Trinidad, Tobago and the West Indian Nation," which was published in his political party’s newspaper, PNM Weekly (later to be renamed The Nation).Williams misjudged the Indian identity when he wrote, “PNM's decimation in areas with an preponderance of Indian votes reflects the DLP campaign and the DLP's appeal that Indians should vote for DLP so as to ensure an Indian Governor and an Indian Prime Minister. Religion figured prominently in their campaign. By hook or by crook they brought out the Indian vote….”

In 1958, Williams was also bitter when he wrote, in his party’s newspaper, the PNM Weekly, of “...the recalcitrant and hostile minority of the West Indian nation masquerading as “the Indian nation” and prostituting the name of India for its selfish, reactionary political ideals.”The infamous speech Williams delivered at the "University of Woodford Square" certainly fractured race relations between the country’s two major ethnic groups. Winston Mahabir, an Indo-Trinidadian and a member of the PNM, was in attendance.

Williams’s presentation shocked Mahabir who candidly confessed in his autobiography, In and Out of Politics,It contained generous ingredients of abuse of the Indian community which was deemed to be a 'hostile and recalcitrant minority.' The Indian community represented the greatest danger facing the country. It was an impediment to West Indian progress. It had caused PNM to lose the federal elections. There were savagely contemptuous references to the Indian illiterates of the country areas who were threatening to submerge the masses whom Williams had enlightened.And Mahabir was appalled at the bitterness of Williams, “He reproved the Indians for having brought to the polls the lame and the halt, the blind and the deaf. He referred derisively to an Indian from Coon Coon village, evoking peals of laughter with his scornful tone.” This speech by the beloved "father of the nation" was evidence that not all citizens were equal in TT.

Today, the hostility that Williams displayed to those who did not support him would be a form of bullying.
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BeatDball 4/5/25, 5:12:38 PM
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debut: 7/20/14
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In reply to imusic obfuscate my arse... alyuh are the ones who take the Jewmaycan carrot cake for that! Anyway, DJT will bring ORDER! Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it! It's coming...
googley 4/5/25, 6:14:51 PM
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debut: 2/9/04
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In reply to BeatDball

Order for what? To bow down to his majesty?
BeatDball 4/5/25, 10:40:49 PM
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debut: 7/20/14
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In reply to imusic Sah, please do not go there with this, obfuscation...if I start unleashing a barrage of videos...only to get lame, piss poor reactions...well, then I will have to do a hiatus, again...might be longer. So, please...
Halliwell 4/6/25, 9:19:54 AM
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debut: 5/14/05
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I’m surprised he didn’t get Biden and Kamala name in that next installment of ‘is UNC fault’

Stewwwps
Emir 4/6/25, 12:37:01 PM
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debut: 8/9/14
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imusic 4/6/25, 1:44:21 PM
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debut: 11/13/02
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In reply to BeatDball

then I will have to do a hiatus, again...might be longer.

Promise?
BeatDball 4/6/25, 1:46:54 PM
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debut: 7/20/14
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In reply to imusic

big grin
granite 4/6/25, 2:28:42 PM
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debut: 11/1/13
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In reply to sgtdjones

I did West Indian History at school and made quite a high mark and recall some of the things you wrote,the History Book was Capitalism and Slavery written by Dr.Eric Williams.I also remember a boy name Junior Comissiong saying "don't worry Sir these Indian boys in this classroom won't break the rules,they are good boys".Junior was commenting on the word RECALCITRANT used by Williams directed at Indo Trinis.
Emir 4/6/25, 4:20:09 PM
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debut: 8/9/14
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In reply to granite

Bro, get pass that. Only the racist eediots keep bringing it up despite Eric taking it back. The historical context in which he said it was also ignored.
sgtdjones 4/6/25, 8:01:22 PM
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debut: 2/16/17
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In reply to granite

Notice the above excuse...all BS with his head so far up PNM's rass. Now I will be called UNC?
One cannot recant such words...!!!! Then what happened to Kamal? Another historical context?

Williams's use of the terms "recalcitrant and hostile minority" when referring to the Indo-Trinidadian population was not merely inflammatory; it was a pronouncement that alienated a significant segment of the population. For a leader aspiring to unify a young, post-colonial nation, such remarks carried a devastating weight. The language, as described by Winston Mahabir—a fellow member of the People's National Movement (PNM) and an Indo-Trinidadian—was laced with scorn and derision, targeting a community that already felt marginalized within the broader national narrative.

Mahabir’s recounting in In and Out of Politics underscores how this speech fractured more than political alliances; it deepened cultural and social divides. He vividly recalls Williams making fun of the Indian electorate, referring to the "lame and the halt, the blind and the deaf." This portrays Williams as a leader whose words verged on being [b]exclusive, even discriminatory. [/b]The laughter elicited by such remarks, as Mahabir observed, only served to underscore the pain and alienation felt by the Indo-Trinidadian community. The Indo-Trinidadians, many of whom were descendants of indentured labourers brought to the Caribbean from India, were often viewed through a lens of cultural and political otherness. Their distinct traditions, languages, and religious practices set them apart from the Afro-Trinidadian majority, who had their own struggles rooted in the legacies of slavery and colonialism. Williams's rhetoric, rather than bridging this divide, seemed to reinforce it, casting Indo-Trinidadians as adversaries to the PNM's vision of a united West Indian federation.

What makes this moment particularly poignant is the disillusionment of individuals like Mahabir. As an Indo-Trinidadian aligned with the PNM, Mahabir represented the possibility of cross-cultural collaboration and unity. Yet, even he could not ignore the bitterness and divisiveness in Williams's words. His candid reflections highlight the internal conflict faced by those who believed in the ideals of the PNM but found themselves alienated by its leader's rhetoric.The aftermath of this speech lingered far beyond 1958. It set a precedent for how race and ethnicity would be wielded in the political landscape of Trinidad and Tobago. The scars of that era remain visible in the country's politics, where questions of identity, loyalty, and representation continue to shape the discourse, even today."The Calcutta ship"
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