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Kieran Powell what a waste of great talent

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allan 4/10/25, 5:33:09 PM
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debut: 2/9/03
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that fellow has all the shots and timing to be among the greats
but has wasted his skills
Jumpstart 4/10/25, 5:47:34 PM
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debut: 11/30/17
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In reply to allan

bad management will destroy any cricketer....keiran was a victim of administrators whose intelligence was as much as a sack of bricks. it is no reason that we are stuck with mediocrity at every level....sammy, rubbish captain who was fortunate to have three great teams in t20s is ow coach, ostensibly with pretty boy floyd accompanying him. we have a white ball skipper who only has a good record in odis and despite its appearance years ago, has not worked on his crippling weakness against short pitched bowling. we are coming out of a white ball captain who never averaged over 40. Mediocrity at every level of the game
allan 4/10/25, 6:34:24 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

the previous greats Greenidge and Haynes never had great mgmt but they worked on their game
These guys should have done the same
velo 4/10/25, 6:37:13 PM
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In reply to allan

Of course that is the problem with wi players they dont work on their game
PalsofMine 4/10/25, 6:47:16 PM
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similar to Lendl Simmonds. When he was in flow, he was one of the best batsmen to watch.
SnoopDog 4/10/25, 7:07:41 PM
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In reply to allan

Powell had decent technique and also had the ability to put away bad balls.

Problem was he didn't know how to build an innings into big scores and capitalize on good starts.
Brerzerk 4/10/25, 7:30:23 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Which WI batsman average 40 I. Any format at any level? There are buff other things one could say about Powell find sup'n else
Jumpstart 4/10/25, 7:50:18 PM
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In reply to Brerzerk

the last who people who averaged over 40, CWI dropped, rather unceremoniously..........chris gayle, who averaged 42 and played his last test at 35, in fact he said in 2015 that he hoped he'd be picked for the test side in 2016(it didn't happen) and ramnaresh sarwan, who averaged 40 and played his last test at 31 in 2011.
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camos 4/10/25, 7:54:34 PM
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debut: 5/6/03
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who owes Powell, he still around, when a lot of more talented players were forced out?
Jumpstart 4/10/25, 7:58:22 PM
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only talented players were forced out.......both bravos, gayle, ramdin, sarwan, rampaul, jerome taylor, powell himself.
voiceofreason 4/10/25, 9:00:48 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

You always quick to blame everything on Administrators as if we did not win despite Administrators like Super Dave. Enough already.
buds 4/11/25, 4:27:51 AM
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In reply to allan

If he had great talent he would not have been a waste!! He was just a waste with no talent.
tc1 4/11/25, 4:48:49 AM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Jumpy post more shoite than in a toilet.
Onionman0 4/11/25, 8:00:57 AM
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Powell sudden love for baseball.....
allan 4/11/25, 5:24:26 PM
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In reply to buds

rubbish
some of our better coaches said he was technically very good
allan 4/11/25, 5:28:15 PM
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https://www.stabroeknews.com/2018/06/12/sports/law-backs-in-form-powell-to-strike-it-big/

https://www.stabroeknews.com/2018/06/12/sports/law-backs-in-form-powell-to-strike-it-big/
Jumpstart 4/11/25, 5:51:54 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

You always quick to blame everything on Administrators as if we did not win despite Administrators like Super Dave. Enough already.

Just because allyuh dotties doh need to perform now to make the side, does not mean that everyone is happy with the way WI cricket is going. As far as i remember, we performed very well prior to the interventions of the big idiot and the windwards islands hydra
1. Drew a test series with an SL side featuring murali, vaas, sanga, mahela etc which we were universally expected to lose
2. Came out of an nz series in nz not losing for the first time in 13 years
3. Won our first and so far only test in south africa against a goat attack(steyn, nel, ntini, morkel)
4. Won the wisden trophy for the first time in 11 years(against an england side featuring kp, strauss, harmison, flintoff, ryan SB, anderson, broad)
5. Was extremely competitive in the 2009 winter Australia series, wich was badly affected by poor umpiring(the last wicket was a nonexistent edge when we were 30 runs adrift from the target)

All we have done since is beaten poor english teams and the flash in the pan of Brisbane 2024, set up by shamar, da silva and mckenzie.........and two of those three players are currently out the team. Proof that the england team of both 2019 and 2020 were rubbish is the beat down we got last summer
voiceofreason 4/12/25, 12:26:27 PM
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Just because allyuh dotties doh need to perform now to make the side, does not mean that everyone is happy with the way WI cricket is going

Every single Leeward and Windward player has earned their pick. Please name one that has not. Sammy, before his ascension as cricket captain had a dream debut with 8 wickets vs England in England. Athanaze, Hodge, Kieran Powell, Jahmar Hamilton, Mikyle Louis, Carty have all earned their picks and have been dropped when not performing. A matter of a fact Hamilton only played one solitary test!!! Sammy's test team won 6 in a row and rose to top 5 in tests! We talk about his leadership in T20 how about his leadership overall. Lara could not walk in Sammy's shoes s a Leader. A matter of fact Lara probably wished he had a leader like Sammy when he was around so go siddung with your foolishness. Oh yeah I am a big Lara fan! Ask anyone on the board as I defended and supported him religiously.

You better get used to it as we will be around for a while. The problem with you all from the bigger islands you all feel a sense of entitlement like WI cricket is yours alone. It's all a we! Look how you all shut us out all those years until Worrell made that stand only to see the emergence of legends like Richards, Roberts, Ambrose, Richie etc.
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Drapsey 4/12/25, 1:02:42 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason / Jumpstart

Seeing that the Big Idiot has been introduced in the discussion, I want to go further and blame Powell's failure to deliver squarely at his feet.

I recall him firmly endorsing Powell for captaincy even while he was still in the development stage. But as we all know, anything the Big Idiot touches turns to 'skittles'.
dayne 4/12/25, 1:14:19 PM
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Talent alone will not make a player a good cricketer, they also have to have cricket instincts and intelligence. After seeing Powell playing in a Test match against Australia many years ago, I thought he would have become a good player, but Powell like Shai Hope are not good players of the moving ball, that's why they are failures in red-ball cricket
Jumpstart 4/12/25, 2:11:55 PM
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In reply to voiceofreason

Like devon smith, like kenroy peters, like trhe worst spinner in history rawle lewis............poor ramdin had to be saddled a host of times with smith as his opener many a time, which is like going into a game with 10 players
Jumpstart 4/12/25, 2:13:55 PM
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In reply to dayne
shai hope is an excellent player of the moving ball. he would not have scored back to back hundreds against broad and anderson in england if he was not. Shai hoper is a terrible player of the short ball and fast bowlers are extremely aggressive today
dayne 4/12/25, 2:38:14 PM
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In reply to Jumpstart

Well, I disagree and many others will also, the reason why Hope is successful in white-ball cricket and not red-ball cricket is because the white ball does not swing as much. Also, in forty odd Test matches Hope had one outstanding Test match, that alone will tell any cricket fan that he has a problem with the moving ball, as most of the times he is dismissed he is either caught behind or bowled down between bat and pad, not fending off short balls
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camos 4/12/25, 3:14:33 PM
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In reply to dayne

Talent alone will not make a player a good crickete



Goes for all endeavors in life!
Jumpstart 4/12/25, 4:59:08 PM
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In reply to dayne
hope had one or two decent innings before and after that. Before wi went to england, they played pakistan in the wi. in the 2nd test in barbados, the pitch started breaking up by the end of the third day day and it was thought that by day four, if WI set a target over 150, that would be a winning total. The pitch was reported to and given a poor grade by the ICC by the way. that WI got a lead of 188 was almost totally down to hope's 90 in the 2nd innings...and this was against amir and abbas, prodigeous movers of the cricket ball on a badly decaying pitch. nobody in the 2nd innings got over 45, and pakistan were bundled out for 81, gabriel taking 5-11. so hope can play the moving ball. when it comes to short pitched bowling, there's an issue. technically his back lift causes him to jump even to spin bowlers. its not a fear of fast bowling, its a technical issue
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