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In reply to sudden

Man you all over bravos like white on rice. Wasn't Trump supposed to stop the killings in Ukraine also? The only place the almighty Trump cannot stop killings is in the United States of America.

In reply to sudden

You should be asking those who didn't vote for Kamala that question too

In reply to Walco

The lengths people go to.

Bravos did not really care about the war in wherever; for him is was about LGBTQ+.

The fascinating part is how that side has chosen to demonize that group of people. It is hard to grab your pitchforks for people who are adults and doing things behind closed doors so you make up stories about sending little Christian to school and Christian comes home as Christina.

Serious question - what is the issue with a transperson using a bathroom other than the one that corresponds to the gender assigned at birth? What will happen if Kaitlyn Jenner uses the same bathroom as my daughter? Kaitlyn will rape her? Can't a lesbian woman also rape my daughter? Are you going to station a person at the bathroom door with a polygraph to determine if there are rapist intentions and not just number 1 or 2 intentions?

Bravos won't be found though.

In reply to nick2020

I don't know why most heterosexual people think that members of the LGBTQ community are all pedophiles and sexually obsessed people who are always on the prowl/hunt. It is a belief/fear borne of ignorance, and Trump and Republicans are experts at exploiting those irrational fears and prejudices.

But bravos bought a huge serving of the snake oil that Don the Con was selling ...

In reply to Walco

Not just Bravos.

An uncomfortable amount of brown/black males did the same. Sadly ...a big part of it is a secret desire for the lack of accountability that DJT represents. I have a few 'friends' including former classmates who I know well enough to know that those of a certain type of behaviour have all gravitated to DJT....his obvious racial and other prejudices be damned.

In reply to nick2020

That’s the type of simplistic argument that conservatives rail against. I doubt any conservatives are against lgbtq+ persons individually. The concern is about the push to normalise it - the shoving it down our throat argument. The issue isn’t about consenting adults or people living life as they wish, but how all of society is pressured to embrace the lifestyles, especially wrt kids without permission or context from parents.

The issue with trans persons using female bathrooms is that it leaves it open to abuse by those who don’t have actual transgender identities.

Would you be comfortable if Mia were to open female bathrooms to everyone who identified as female?

In reply to Cheeks

I always tell people that I am a single issue voter. I cannot vote for a racist, so I could never vote for Trump.

Some of the most vocal Trump supporters on this board have been a lot less vocal recently while digesting his disastrous tariff policy and general lack of respect for the rule of law. But none of this should surprise or shock them. Trump declared everything he was planning to do on multiple occasions before the election last November. The only bait and switch was his denial of any intention to follow some of the more controversial policies outlined in the Project 2025 handbook. Of course, those of us who have figured out Trump knew right away that he was lying about Project 2025.

In reply to VIX

So that's the issue? Can any man in a blue state in the United States use female bathrooms by simply saying that he identifies as female?

In reply to Walco

In reply to VIX

Well I am not aware of anyone advocating that a man should be able to use female bathrooms simply by saying that he identifies as female. And anyone advocating such a position would not be taken seriously by anyone except for people on the political fringes.

In reply to VIX

This is so far from the truth I was struggling on where to start.



So I will take this route:

1. Trump signs executive orders proclaiming there are only two biological sexes, halting diversity programs

What you started with is the exact opposite of what is actually happening. LGBTQ+ people are here saying this is who I am while there are several people (not only conservatives) who are telling them they cannot be that. That is fundamentally having a problem with an individual. They are not shoving it down people's throats. I see the Social Media skits. I watched Dave Chappelle's skit on Jim Carey. I could go on and on but I will move on.



Society finds itself in a rock and a hard place in the classroom. Why is it okay to teach children about reproduction, marriage and divorce? Isn't homosexuality something as well that exists in the animal kingdom? But I get it; tell a boy that gays exist and you are grooming him.



What? Is this a thought through comment? You do not want persons to abuse being in a female bathroom? Who are those persons? Men pretending to be women so they can peep at women peeing? And this is a transgender issue?

I dunno what to tell you. There is a high level of intolerance towards the alphabet people and it comes from certain places. Weren't you the one who made the observation that culturally Caribbean people have more in common with conservatives than liberals?

In reply to VIX

A basically castrated man, taking a heavy dose of female hormones is not out to hurt any woman, has there been a case of attack so far?

In reply to nick2020

yeah, so yuh probably need to rethink your simplistic generalisation of this and other issues, and reconsider your dependence on solely liberal talking points, left wing US pop culture and broad oversimplifications.

When you bring up things like Trump’s executive orders or social media skits of all things, you picking examples that already match your mindset, instead of really listening to what others are saying. That’s confirmation bias, not critical thinking. Balanced views come from appreciating all sides even when you disagree, and not assuming all pushback is hateful.

But I must say, it's a welcome change to see conservative Caribbean people so suddenly and passionately supporting the LGBTQ+ movement. But do they genuinely believe in it or are they supporting it only because the other side, which they so strongly despise, appears to be against it? Thankfully this is a great muricka issue and not a lowly Caribbean one!

In reply to VIX

There are two issues at play here

The acceptance or not, of a lifestyle
The acceptance or not, of hate

And if you want to make it three,

The fact that these people call themselves ‘Christ- ian’

In reply to Halliwell

Antman is all-knowing Halli. In fact, his powers are God-like on this holy Easter Sunday ...

still no Bravos

......Sodden

You gave up female mail-order brides now for this Trini?
I reckon it's cool to be transgender as VIX.

In reply to sudden
Of course not - they are all land and resource thieves.

Do you know what those blocking, yelling at and spitting on 7 little black students in Arkansas said?

" Black ppl didn't want integration...it was only Outside Agitators (i.e. liberals) who were ramming it down thier throat" Racists and prejudiced so n so's

In reply to nick2020

There is a difference between education and promotion. It seems to me like it was being forced down the throat of the general public and world.

In reply to methodic

It wasn,t being forced down it was being rammed down and worse .they were promoting that to underage kids in school .regardless of the parents opinion ,approval or religious perspective

In reply to velo

correct

reminds me of how english, other european languages and civil sensitivities, and european religions were rammed into native populations

In reply to velo

Serious question, exactly how does the LGBTQ movement impacts you? Do you have children and if so how do you think.it could affect them? As an individual are you forced to give it attention or can you ignore it? Should every possess the right to determine his own destiny...women and any other classified human too? You do know "the church" burned people at the stake for differing views worship and lifestyles right?
Wasn't MLK Gandhi et al murdered because at least one person thought they were ramming stuff down their throat? Bro, gross intolerance is a disease earth could do without.

In reply to Brerzerk
Intolerance is a interesting word

The supreme court of england just defined biologicwomen as the definition of a woman .now the women that brought that motion are they being intolerant becsuse they want to feel safe and not to share their bathrooms with people with male genitalia .

It affects me when i say i dont want my kids being taught about certain things or around certain things is that intolerance ?


Your wrong the greatest disease on earth is when people use propaganda and pseudo science to justify their lifestyle i and use it to denigerate others who dont believe in it. which nobody is entitled to accept anyones lifestyle and the gay community play thst card hard

In reply to velo

Your arguments are extreme without any supporting evidence. Serious question-tell us how LGBTQXYZ people impact you and yours personally

I though i just did and why are you refering to yourself as us vaya con dios

In reply to velo

So all this time you've been posting to me only or to all of us? Do you live in an environment where you can home-school your children and or get permission to have them withdrawn from those classes? I am really trying to.understand how a small % of the population so trigger others. The older I get the more I realize how not "sweating" certain stuff can be liberating.

Prices in the Supermarket start drop yet? I heard promises of them dropping by day one.

In reply to velo

The English language is fascinating. Explain how they were promoting that to underage kids.

There are gay and lesbian children.
There are gay and lesbian adults.

What do we do? Pretend they do not exist?

Why is Sex Ed okay to be taught to children as young as 8 years old?

In reply to nick2020

These folks not ready to join the modern world. They still carry hate in their depths but don't want society to see it, so they'll jump around to justify their hate

It's much more respectable if they just admitted they hate anybody not straight

In reply to conman

Religious bigotry.

The right wing Evangelical Christians now have powerful lobbyists and politicians who do their bidding. They have been waging a propaganda war against all these minority communities for decades, and some would say have won it as they now control the executive, legislative and judicial branches of Dumbfcukinstan.

In reply to sudden

sudden I know you are one of the best (if not the best) paralegal around these parts so I expect you to do some fancy footwork here but...

It is quite fascinating that some people around these parts admire a lady and then condemn a lifestyle.

Life has a brilliant sense of humour.

In reply to nick2020

A Black lady to boot?

In reply to nick2020

what i have observed is that they admire the woeman's intelligence, know about her sexual preference but would rather pretend it is not there

In reply to sudden

She's not shoving it down their throats?

In reply to SnoopDog

yeah... not theirs

In reply to sudden

So as long at it's a Catholic priest doing the shoving it's all right with them?

In reply to nick2020

Man I know someone who is very close to a certain prominent lesbian in those parts who refuses to socialize with lesser lesbians out of fear of being labeled one of them

In reply to Walco

is it a matter of size?

In reply to sudden

Yuh too wuffless

In reply to nick2020

Priceless....

In reply to nick2020
In reply to nick2020

[b]There are gay and lesbian children.
There are gay and lesbian adults.
[/b]

did you really think about this before you wrote it

In reply to sudden

Biden supported the Israeli genocide of Gaza.

Trump supports the Israeli genocide of Gaza.

Two evil presidents of an evil country.

In reply to mikesiva

Mike, this thread is about bravos prediction that the killings in Gaza would stop after Trump took over from Biden

not only Bravos, my good mate JohnsonDom too

In reply to mikesiva

Correct. And that some people are willing to overlook Biden's crimes against humanity, because Trump is just as bad, speaks to HOW narrow minded they are.

That many desperate people had a choice between a man who defended, encouraged and financed genocide, while punishing and laughing at those who tried to stop that genocide, versus an equally horrible man, who perhaps maybe, had a small probability of stopping the genocide.

Had Biden not defended, financed and protect them, we would not have had a genocide to begin with.

I wonder how many of them will support Biden's prosecution at the ICC for his crimes against humanity? Let start here, then we can move on to Trump. Afterall, we must first start with the man under whose watch and financing the genocide started.

In reply to Emir

Did you admit to sending out message to over 200,000 to vote for Kamala albeit at the last moment? To what extent if any did she distance herself from Biden on The Gaza Genocide?

Yes, I endorsed her because I believed she would have discontinued Biden’s genocide.

A majority of Muslim Americans of all ethnic groups voted for Kamala. However, the cumulative impact of various minority groups who are traditionally core Democratic in toss up states did it for Trump.

Post election, Kamala’s advisors have now admitted they should have broke with Biden in the campaign.

Biden’s wife has since stopped talking to Kamala.

The role of Biden in paving the way for Trump will be his lasting legacy and future generations will hold him accountable for Trump’s return.

Sadly, he will never face punishment for his crimes against humanity.

In reply to Emir

Neither will Bush and many others

despite all the excuses, the muslims sold out to Trump especially those in Michigan who are now asking blacks to come together with them to fight Trump

well elections have consequences

tek wuh wunnuh get

In reply to Brerzerk

True and sadly so but Biden is in front of us and arguably his genocide is the worse of all

In reply to sudden
That's telling it like it is.

They even voted for the 3rd party candidate .

In reply to hubert

here it is and they still dont regret it

In reply to Emir

Muslims forgot the ban on people from Muslim countries in the first term. When Trump ran against Hillary, my only reason for voting, was to vote against Trump not so much for Clinton, I had to pick the lesser of two evils, that was not even the case this time because Trump was not up against Biden. So you guys can keep making the excuses.

In reply to camos

All I have to say to Mulla bin Emir, and the Muslims who voted for the Dotard, is that buyer's remorse is a hell of a thing.

In fact, this is the worst case of buyers remorse I think I've ever seen.

In reply to sudden

Just watched..Thanks a Million. Have bookmarked this video for
future consumption and satisfaction

Imam doing in it T&T...

.........Nizam makes a plea to Muslims...a Hindu maybe PM...

Religious bigotry.

Some Trinidadians are still in Syrian refugee camps

In reply to hubert

"Muslims for Trump"

The modern day equivalent of "Jews for Hitler".

In reply to sudden

I noticed this thread was dedicated to Bravos, it has now garnered three pages and Bravos has not shown up. Does that mean he is knocked-out, waver the white flag, or saying “No Mas?” I just pray he is OK

In reply to birdseye

he said that if Trump disappointed him he would come back, apologise and call out Trump for his failures

maybe he is giving Trump some more time

In reply to birdseye

Nah. It would take quite a bit to knock out Bravos.

This only means that the self-loathing echo chamber misfits and wannabe misfits, seduced by the liberal cult of delusion and unable to think for themselves, even as they hail from deeply conservative societies, remain delusional and pointless. They’re stuck in a fantasy, clutching at nothing tangible. Screaming into a dead echo chamber. Begging for "heartland merica," "real merica," WHITE merica to maybe, out of pity, give them a crumb of validation.

Self respect is a helluva drug! A good drug though.

In reply to VIX

All they did was call out a con man for being a con man and ask their brothers to not get taken in by the Emperor’s new clothes.

How that reach to wanting white man validation?

In reply to Halliwell

Perhaps Antman is a misfit when it comes to TNT politics and yearns for validation outside TNT. His ever present echo chamber and misfits refrains are branding exercises modeled after his hero Tariff Man. When Trump wins, we are misfits in an echo chamber. But when Obama and Biden won we were validated "fits" in a reality chamber

In reply to VIX

You know you are a misfit too

In reply to VIX

Boss!!! What da heck you talkin bout??

Yuh arrite??

In reply to Walco

I just do not see bravos as the type to admit he was suckered.
sudden supported MaM and still sings her praises.

In reply to nick2020

Bravos violated the universal rule that you should watch what politicians do, not what they say ...

In reply to Cheeks

In reply to nick2020

yes, my hero

In reply to Cheeks

like you, i am trying to wrap my brains around that post such as it is

In reply to Halliwell

it is high time you make an intervention

In reply to sudden

Antman slipped up and let out some pent-up bitterness

In reply to birdseye

Deported to the gulag in El Salvador. And the strangest thing he wasn't even in the US

In reply to sudden

Its not trumps job to stop the killings in Gaza.

In reply to VIX

Vixie, in order to defend religious bigotry you always come with this conservative societies BS. Suh, because almost all of us as children (some reluctantly) went to either, Sunday/Sabbath School, Temple, Mosque, Kingdom Hall we come from conservative societies? Because we were taught to either disdain or mock LGBTQXYZ people we come from conservative societies? Our societies glorify cheating/Horning/Bun. Either turn a blind eye to or participate in all manner of child abandonment and abuse, some of our govts rape the treasury and abuse power-What the hell is conservative about those things? Maan stop! Those of us who on balance support the democratic party and despise the likes of Trump have in fact been influenced by the liberal movements and leaders in our Caribbean societies who fought for equal rights and justice, economic freedom, fair labor laws and the dignity of our people. Barrow, Manley, Bishop, Williams.........
If yuh seh is suh nuh mean is suh Conservative societies mi fanny!

In reply to Brerzerk
Unlike the well learned echo chamber, I'm not an expert in anthropology, sociology or political science, so I had to ask the most learned sources I have access to for an answer - 3 different LLM chatbots

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In reply to Cheeks


I had too much guyana rum last evening. But my point stands!!!

In reply to SEasySix

was it Biden's?

In reply to VIX

In reply to VIX

Your point does not stand! The idiocy of the article such as saying The Caribbean is socially conservative in the area of Religion is Bullshit!
Religious conservatism and social conservatism are different things. Claiming to be socially conservative based on religion when one only goes to
church Easter and Christmas is as hypocritical as 'cultural Jews' claiming 'God' gave them the land when that statement suits them.

You have in fact proven my point that our societies use Religious Bigotry to suit hating who they want to while having 'Illicit sex' left and right, abusing their
children, stealing and other corruption. What percentage of Caribbean population is 'Roman Catholic' by the way? How many socalled Methodist and Pentacostals actually practice their own teachings? Guh use AI search and cherry pick some mo'

In reply to VIX

In all fairness I've literally conformed to the Rum Shop eponym while typing a few cricket related posts in the past. That said...you need to dissect the post and let us know which part stands and which is El Dorado 25 yr old driven.

In reply to Brerzerk

Breds, you bouncing around all over the place looking for straws to grab to back your assertion that the Caribbean is not generally conservative. But it ent have nothing to hold on to.

It goes without saying that Caribbean societies can be selectively conservative, to justify bigotry, shame and even control. But that’s the thing eh, even if folks only go to church twice a year, or even never, the framework err.. the foundation of public morality and the like still leans on religious and traditional bases. Is not about personal conservatism, but society as a whole. But you know that.

In reply to Cheeks

just treat it as a general take on the delusional misfits and not as a contribution to the topic of discussion!!

WOULD IT BE UNFAIR TO SAY English-speaking Caribbean nations are socially liberal societies?

ChatGPT said:
That's a really thoughtful question. It wouldn't necessarily be unfair, but it might be an oversimplification.

English-speaking Caribbean nations often show a mix of socially conservative and liberal tendencies, depending on the issue:

Conservative areas: Religion (especially Christianity) has a strong influence, and attitudes toward LGBTQ+ rights, abortion, and gender roles are often more conservative than in North America or Western Europe.Liberal areas: There's often openness around things like music, fashion, and cultural expression (think dancehall, Carnival, etc.), and in some places, there's growing advocacy for marijuana decriminalization, gender equality, and free expression.

My opinion- Spirituality and faith is scared of nothing at all. Religion on the other hand fears Openmindedness, Education and especially science. What say ye?

So, it's more accurate to say they're socially complex or in transition, rather than broadly liberal or conservative.

[stats]'Aks bias question get bias ansa 'Aks' thoughtful question and Biff...

WOULD IT BE UNFAIR TO SAY English-speaking Caribbean nations arw socially liberal?

well, i would like to see a politician in Bim campaigning on criminalising abortions, bulling, and horning

or one that wants to legalise bulling if that is necessary or even legal

or in Bim one that wants parents to pay fully for education

In reply to sudden

Are you suggesting that faux conservatism or conservatism for show is rampant in the Caribbean?

In reply to Walco

" Hypocrites n parasites all come in and take a bite but if nite should ever turn to day a lot of people would have to run away. Who the cap fit,
Hon Robeet Nesta Marley OM

How many days are needed before sudden can file a missing person report?

In reply to nick2020

This has the potential to be one of those never-ending threads