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Angel Reese

Cheeks 5/19/25, 12:37:08 AM
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..may be brash and not everyone's cup of tea...but the blatant racism against her is nauseating. It DEI parlance she is the classic case of 'intersectionality' ..not just black ..but female. People are looking for every reason to disparage the girl. I will NOT support it. Caitlin Clark is talented but there is concerted effort to elevate her above Angel. Just like the NBA has always done and continue to do with Luke Walton, Djokic, Luka, AR etc etc .

I have been a diehard Laker for as long I've been watching the NBA....but ..I am seeing some worrying signs.

Its part of the reason I will NEVER support skunts like Skip Bayless and plethora of commenters as they try to diminish Lebron's legacy.

The attack on black excellence in America has reached dizzying proportions.
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Chrissy 5/19/25, 1:44:32 AM
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In reply to Cheeks
You are 100% correct
JahJah 5/19/25, 2:33:30 AM
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In reply to Cheeks

True, but c'mon man. Clark is a better player than Reese. Let's keep it 100. She should have been working on her shooting/layups in the off season instead of 'moggling' all 'bout if she wanted to shut the haters up. You see, guys like you hate dudes like MJ and others hater Kobe because they were laser focused and determined to improve. Too bad she doesn't have that hunger...yet.

Right now, she's almost like a slightly better Mitchell Robinson.

We have others we can use to combat Clark, but my guy, Reese is NOT it. What a huge let down she has been.

You see the agenda. She doesn't?
imusic 5/19/25, 2:37:06 AM
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Come on Cheeks. Jes because Lebron will never be the greatest in the game and not as great as MJ doesn’t mean you get to use the “attack on black excellence” argument as evidence.

Lebron is great in his own right. He is universally acknowledged as such. He’s just not the greatest, much to his and his supporters chagrin.
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JahJah 5/19/25, 2:43:56 AM
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In reply to Cheeks

Its part of the reason I will NEVER support skunts like Skip Bayless and plethora of commenters as they try to diminish Lebron's legacy.


As for this, you think it's an attack on black excellence that is the cause of the push back on Lebron and his cronies trying to force a narrative to rubbish the legancy of MJ and his era of opponents??

Give your head a shake. It's Lebron and his cronies (Klutch sports) with their legion of 15 year old fan boys who are attacking the black excellence of the 80s ad 90s by calling them plumbers and firemen.

Stop focusing on Skip and pay attention to the BLACK players and fans of the 70s to early 2000s who are seeing what this generation are trying to do THEIR black excellence.
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JahJah 5/19/25, 2:53:25 AM
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Also,

Lebron would have been better served by not getting his team (Klutch sports) to hire the likes of Nick Wrong and others to spread narratives like the we're done with the 90s etc etc. He should have also take a note from a certain someone who you complain about. That person said that he can't call himself the greatest because that would be doing a disservice to those who came before him. No, instead he said the comeback against GSW (Thanks largely to Kyrie) made him the greatest. I mean, wut?

So you complain about Skip but not about Nick Wright/Wrong and others who insult other era and its players? What about Lebron 'hiring' the dude (JJ Redneck) who at one point was basically calling Bird, MJ dem bums/frauds? You know, the guru who had coaching all figured out unlike the Black coaches who he was shading?

How are you seeing 1 agenda but not the most obvious one that is slapping you in the face!
VIX 5/19/25, 2:58:26 AM
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ignoring the fact that no one pays attention to the WNBA - not even merican women care about that bore fest, far less the male sports fans... It’s diabolical that in 2025, racism continues to be a regular part of many sports. We see it all the time in Spanish football, not that it's gone away in other European leagues either.

But i guess because this is grate murika, it's an issue for the greater echo chamber.
JahJah 5/19/25, 3:02:28 AM
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In reply to VIX

We see it all the time in Spanish football,


You're an ant, not a bat. Yu bline ar wah? I have pointed out many times, to Chrissy especially, the state of racism in Spanish and indeed Italian football.

Maybe find a cure for your MuriKKKa obsession and you will see.
VIX 5/19/25, 3:09:40 AM
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sorry guy, i was responding to Cheeks.
JahJah 5/19/25, 3:24:07 AM
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In reply to VIX

And I am responding to VIX.

Since you didn't send him a private message and instead posted it on a thread, in the spirit of the concept of a forum, the engagement got put into effect.

In the end, the point remains. Racism isn't only called out in the MuriKKKan leagues.

Hope this helps.
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sgtdjones 5/19/25, 3:28:33 AM
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In reply to JahJah

Just ignore his rass...

Transgender VIX hormones acting up again...

Notice his repetitiveness...it's all he knows.
VIX 5/19/25, 3:33:27 AM
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Well TBH, thankfully racism isn't as rampant in great merica sport or goes unpunished as it is in football. But the echo-chamber will be sure to make it an issue when it pops up.

Just because.
Merica you see. The misfits' lalaland.
Bess in da wurrllllllll
Cheeks 5/19/25, 1:24:26 PM
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In reply to imusic

Classic imusic strawman argument.

For the 100 millionth time. The GOAT argument is nonsense. My fave nba player ever is Earvin Magic Johnson.

Focus!!!!

Look at the rabid attacks on nba players of a particular hue. The anti DEI brigade isnhard at work. They are selling that NBA is all about DEI...trying to anyway.
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Cheeks 5/19/25, 1:26:14 PM
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In reply to JahJah

I am not arguing about who is the better player.

The agenda makes me not inclined to pile on.

Too many people missing the point though.
Walco 5/19/25, 3:24:15 PM
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In reply to Cheeks

The WNBA will not be the first league to promote itself by elevating rivalries between black and white players. Reese overreacted to a basketball play that was a hard foul to prevent an easy layup and put her on the free throw line. I have no idea why Clark was given a technical foul because there was no push. But Reese brings a lot of criticism on herself, even though I agree that some of the criticism directed at her is racist. This could be another Bird v Magic rivalry because Bird and Magic battled against each other in college and then in the NBA, but Reese has a long way to go before she can be considered on the level of Magic Johnson.

Regarding your reference to DEI in the NBA for white players, Austin Reaves is overrated, but how many players in the NBA do you think are better than Luka and/or Jokic at this point of their careers? I can think of maybe 5 players and it would be debatable, especially if we are talking about Jokic.
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imusic 5/19/25, 7:31:58 PM
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Classic imusic strawman argument.

For the 100 millionth time. The GOAT argument is nonsense. My fave nba player ever is Earvin Magic Johnson.

Focus!!!!

Look at the rabid attacks on nba players of a particular hue. The anti DEI brigade isnhard at work. They are selling that NBA is all about DEI...trying to anyway.

Not me bring in "they trying to diminish Lebron's legacy" into it.

You were going fine until you introduce that. Talk about strawman argument.
Jumpstart 5/19/25, 9:01:40 PM
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In reply to VIX

unfortunately racism is not only an issue in the good ole USA alone. In fact, I'd argue that for most of the people on this planet, race and ethnicity are two of the primary ways through which people see each other. I don't think people realize how entrenched this thing is. I blame social media primarily for this
Cheeks 5/19/25, 10:31:50 PM
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Not me bring in "they trying to diminish Lebron's legacy" into it.

You were going fine until you introduce that. Talk about strawman argument.


I will tell you why I brought Lebron into it.

I saw a social media post with the usual lovefest for CC and disdain and lambasting of Angel Reese and of course..the same people bashing Angel and worshipping CC started to bash Lebron with comments like AR is flopper like Lebron....blah blah. That is why I brought up Lebron, the post I saw which was about the hard foul and whether it should be flagrant or not turned into a Lebron bashing post. It is what prompted my post.

Bashing AR turned into bashing Lebron, by guess who. I think you know.

So many less than stellar other players in the league..why do you think they targeted him?
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Cheeks 5/19/25, 10:34:01 PM
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I blame social media primarily for this


Social media certainly expands the reach.

I think you have to have it in your heart though...to use social media to spew it.
JahJah 5/20/25, 12:23:22 AM
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In reply to Cheeks

The hilarious thing about your bringing up Lebron is the fact he ALWAYS comes to Clark's aid and ignores Reese.

DEADING


WID


LAFF!!
Cheeks 5/20/25, 9:43:49 AM
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He sounds like he agrees with you then. So whats the problem?

He has no issue with CC...neither do I. I just dislike the racist abuse AR is subjected to...and as usual a bunch of Jason Whitlock types piling on an imperfect human.

Again ..I only brought up Lebron because the racist abuse on AR about her reaction to a foul further devolved into a racist bashing of Lebron on a specific social post ..and I know its not isolated.

Man...while you hating on Lebron...ask yourself why MAGA hates him so much.

MAGA thinks the NBA is DEI.

Remember who was the subject of 'shut up and dribble'
nick2020 5/20/25, 6:07:26 PM
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In reply to VIX

The surprise is all this energy for the WNBA. I tried back in the late 90s or whenever it started and I could not get into it.

And even after casually following the hyped Clark and her college career I still couldn't watch.

To be a West Indies cricket fan and watch the WNBA makes me wonder if the misfits are masochists.
Cheeks 5/20/25, 9:14:37 PM
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I really don't follow the WNBA closely.

But the AR CC thing pops up in my FB feeds, and I see some pretty rabid comments.