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Courtesy 7/17/25, 11:08:00 PM
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The very persons who defended to death when T20 players refused the offers of central contracts in favour of galavanting the T20 globe are now lamenting the WI poor performances in test cricket.

I wonder if they will agree now with Bryan Lara, that our cricketers use regional tournaments as a stepping stone to IPL and other dilutions of cricket.

Those of us who were perceptive enough warned against this selfish attitude. New Zealand cricket and other nations have found a happy medium.

Spare me the false conching now and shut your skunts. I have the receipts.

HYPOCRITES.
sgtdjones 7/17/25, 11:11:50 PM
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......

I wrote this in 2011 - Don’t Worry About a Thing

Check out this egotistical, poorly written blog that served no purpose.
Courtesy 7/17/25, 11:23:36 PM
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In reply to sgtdjones

Bruh, this article is simply focused on taking a swipe at Sir Hilary and to achieve its purpose it is overly padded with irrelevances. It is sadly lacking in intellectual rigidity.

We live in a culture where the biggest BS gains attention.
Courtesy 7/17/25, 11:36:02 PM
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When I hear blanket statements like: "West Indies cannot survive neoliberalism" I lose all interest and respect. This is antiquated stuff that young persons will never marinate themselves in. Such statements come from intellectually vulnerable persons. Shun them.
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bobby 7/17/25, 11:44:29 PM
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Listen in the midst of everyone playing the blame game we must remember the following.
CWI is a private club that operates under its own rules.
CWI as a private club is able to prey on the emotions of the West Indian people to enrich themselves with power and money.
CWI - this private club enriches itself with no accountability, by using our tax payers money and benefitting from sponsorship dollars through the money spent on the services and products of the sponsors by we, the public.
CWI owes us nothing for being stupid and not understanding the facts.
CWI is one of the worse employers in the world and treats it's employees like shite.
No one here would tolerate their mistreatment but we criticize the players.
They dissed and disrespected players of every generation. This time it is DaSilva, Hodge, Imlach, etc.
Our cricketers carreers are short. Most of them are not well educated and must make provisions for life after cricket to secure their families and themselves.
Most of our cricketers who work for CWI do so at the whims and fancy of the Board and Selector with no explanation.
I ask the question again. What would you do? Operate under these criminals or go where you feel more secure in your fwhite. And don't tell me no crap about national pride. They are playing for a private club called CWI. It is just like playing in the IPL, CPL, Big Bash etc.
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Courtesy 7/17/25, 11:53:22 PM
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In reply to bobby

What's your point?

How is this different from working with other private entities? How many persons or what percentage of persons in the region are self-employed?

Please read Tony Cozier's article here (credit googley). and come back with your comments.

There have been systemic failures and a poisoned culture from time immemorial which points to a sense of entitlement and donmanship by our cricketers.

Btw, any planning starts with proper problem identification.
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Raskil 7/18/25, 12:26:13 AM
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As a single example, Motie gave time for West Indies only to be dropped for a specialist vice captain.
Jumpstart 7/18/25, 1:56:17 AM
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In reply to Courtesy

The very persons who defended to death when T20 players refused the offers of central contracts in favour of galavanting the T20 globe are now lamenting the WI poor performances in test cricket.

the t20 team is much better than this lot of losers(minus brandon king) that WI called a batting side.......this is the consequence of destroying the test careers of sarwan, dwayne bravo, taking away gayle's best years as a test batsman(gayle averaged over 50 for the threeyears prior to the appointment of sammy and the schism that caused. sow the wind. reap the whirlwind
sudden 7/18/25, 2:05:31 AM
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In reply to Courtesy

Looks like you found a hypocrite
Courtesy 7/18/25, 2:10:33 AM
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In reply to sudden

Yep. The absolute archetype of an arrogant hypocrite.

big grin
Drapsey 7/18/25, 2:13:23 AM
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At least Lara retired from West Indies cricket before signing up to play in the short lived ICL.
Jumpstart 7/18/25, 3:22:05 AM
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In reply to Courtesy

if im a hypocrite...then im proud...pollard, pooran, bravo, gayle, narine, russell and co will never have to beg in their lives...beg for a benefit, beg to be on a west indies test side
Jumpstart 7/18/25, 3:26:27 AM
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In reply to bobby

Most of our cricketers who work for CWI do so at the whims and fancy of the Board and Selector with no explanation.

excellent point....this is why the board hated lara, gayle, sarwan, bravo and especially pollard. they good make an excellent living from cricket while independent of the fools in that hog pen called CWI.
tc1 7/18/25, 4:02:46 AM
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In reply to Raskil

The specialist VC out bowled the great Motie the last 2 years.
Kay 7/18/25, 4:40:03 AM
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Well ... i still prefer VOR smile
natty_forever 7/18/25, 12:29:38 PM
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See the hypocrits dem a galang deh...
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TheTrail 7/18/25, 10:17:00 PM
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In reply to Bobby

Our cricketers carreers are short. Most of them are not well educated and must make provisions for life after cricket to secure their families and themselves.


That is a low blow bro. Condescending.
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Edrich 7/19/25, 12:28:54 AM
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In reply to Courtesy

The Lead trumpeter was the talentless and bitter, Manicou, stuck in forever negativity.christine.aka Chrissy.
Courtesy 7/19/25, 3:09:10 AM
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Dear Chris,

Thank you for your latest email on the subject of NOCs. I do welcome the opportunity to engage with you, with a view to clarifying our respective positions.

WICB has never restricted you from "plying your trade". You have not been playing for the West Indies in recent months, initially on fitness grounds and then because you rendered yourself ineligible for selection...
Courtesy 7/19/25, 3:11:19 AM
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...WICB's approach, when dealing with requests for NOCs from both retained and non retained players is based on the ICC Operating Manual and accompanying guidance. Thus, where a request for an NOC is received, that request is given reasonable and appropriate consideration. Where appropriate, WICB discusses the issue with the West Indies and territorial selectors. Following such consideration, WICB may grant an unconditional, partial or conditional NOC. When considering its response to a request for an NOC, WICB will consider the player’s wishes, the terms of the NOC required by the relevant overseas board, FTP commitments (actual and potential) and any other circumstances (all being factors set out in the ICC Operating Manual and related guidance) relevant to that player, such as fitness. Customarily, a player with a retainer contract, and any other player who is (or would be regarded as) a member of the current first team squad, and who purports to make himself available, and is eligible, for selection for the West Indies team, will be granted an NOC subject to FTP commitments. Conversely, a player who has declared himself unavailable and/or is ineligible for selection for the West Indies team for the foreseeable future would (absent other relevant factors) be granted an unconditional NOC (although, in practice, this would be rare,...
Courtesy 7/19/25, 3:16:08 AM
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...It is WICB’s position that, if a player wishes to play official cricket and to be considered for selection to play for the West Indies, and whether or not he signs a retainer contract, he must expect NOCs to be issued subject to international commitments, in accordance with the rules of the ICC which govern the overseas tournaments in which he wishes to play. WICB does not have the resources to match the amounts of money that players can earn from playing in the IPL and certain other overseas domestic tournaments. WICB's approach is to permit players to play in the IPL and other overseas domestic tournaments wherever possible, subject only to international commitments. This approach, in WICB’s view, has to be adopted for all players ("FTS Players" i.e. first team squad players) who are (or would be regarded as) members of the current first team squad and who purport to make themselves available for selection, and are eligible for selection (or, rather, not ineligible for selection for the foreseeable future), whether they have signed retainer contracts or not. If FTS Players were automatically granted unconditional NOCs for every overseas domestic tournament in which they wished to play, this would, in effect, allow any FTS Player to make himself available for selection for the West Indies only for matches where he could not find a better paid alternative.

WICB believes that asking an FTS Player who requests an NOC to play in an overseas domestic tournament to accept a condition that he make himself available, if selected, for international commitments which may clash with that tournament, is justifiable. If a player has no contractual obligation to WICB and does not wish to make himself available to play in international matches for which he may be selected, then he has the option of ceasing to be a FTS Player, by retiring from international cricket, or otherwise declaring himself ineligible and/or unavailable for selection for the foreseeable future. In that event, WICB would not consider it necessary or appropriate to issue a player with anything but an unconditional NOC....
Courtesy 7/19/25, 3:20:23 AM
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Dear Ernest:

I am in receipt of your January 17, 2012 E-mail. From the onset I must express my disappointment with your continued refusal to allow me to freely ply my trade, the imposition of unacceptable conditions and restrictions on the terms of my employment, and the continued attempts to manipulate my career,...
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Courtesy 7/19/25, 3:24:53 AM
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...I object to the unilateral imposition of conditions on the NOC requested as this removes any opportunity for me to determine, in my sole discretion, how to ply my trade. It is for me to consider whether I accept selection once the WICB has selected me,...
Courtesy 7/19/25, 3:28:02 AM
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In reply to Edrich

I am reading the comments of the defenders of "this removes any opportunity for me to determine, in my sole discretion, how to ply my trade."
This is the BS that we accepted from those recalcitrant members (aka Dons) of West Indies cricket. This attitude coupled with runaway indiscipline amd the perpetual MOU is what took us to the nadir of our cricket.

The big, beautiful plan to undermine West Indies cricket started here.
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Besar 7/19/25, 10:05:16 AM
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In reply to Jumpstart

They would certainly have to beg for forgiveness for having abandoned and engineered the demise of West Indies cricket.
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