There is an elaborate discussion in this segment about deterioration of WI cricket over the last 2 decades. You can fast forward to 40th minute or so.

https://www.youtube.com/live/VFXoG4nxfhs?si=vomSWrE79t7L_NrD

@jnaveen

Thanks ... interesting

@jnaveen

sorry....i doh take on nothing from jarod kimber....dude is an annoying fan boy who picks and choses what stats he's going to use in my opinion. West Indies problems are exactly what Australia had in the late 80s. That is a failure to get the basics right in the game on a consistent basis. If a team with limited talent consistently bowls tight lines, holds on to catches and plays each ball on its merit, they will be very competitive. One of the big myths, among many of the 70s-early 90s teams was that they beat people with superstars..........viv, lara, greenidge and holding were superstars, enormously gifted cricketers who could change the game on a consistent basis. the rest of dudes just did everything perfectly. Ambrose rarely swung the ball but made sure his line and length were uncomfortable at all times. Marshall was very quick when he first started, but recognized that wasn't enough and by 1983 was the most skilled bowler cricket had ever known up until that point. Andy Roberts, the father f the modern west indian fast bowler spent long hours mentally working out the weaknesses of batsmen. Once you get the basics right, cricket becomes a much, MUCH easier game

Don't think West Indies bowling has issues.. They don't have good spinners. But they didn't have good spinners in the 80s too. I am pretty sure without bouncer restriction, noball monitoring Jayden Seales would have been effective in the 80s. Shamar joseph would still have been effective. Winston benjamin, Winstaon Davis, Wayne Daniel , Eldine baptiste were also effective in their own rights. Problem is batting. You don't have to be gifted to scores on good batting tracks like Ahmedabad. So many West Indian cricketers bash the bowling in the IPL on the same tracks. To be honest the batting i saw was high school level batting. You have to practice for hours. Shubman Gill being a master of short ball did not happen by accident. He practiced 1500 balls every day when he was young. His father would bounce the ball off charpoy and he would practice for hours. Kuldeep practiced bowling on sand to improve his speed and turn. All these guys would practice for hours and hours. ABhishek sharma/Prabsimran/Gill were handpicked by Yuvraj and coached independently. No need of infrastructure, money to practice these skills. Sachin used to play from 15 yards with wet tennis ball every time before he toured Australia. People have to work hard. Matthew hayden would practice on scuffed up pitches against turning balls before coming to India.