@sudden

And for virtually the entirety of the holder/sammy/kraigg tenure, we’ve been down. We’ve waited on teams to devolve to garbage so that we could win: the England team that lost 2-0 in 2019, the nz tests that never went past day five, the Indian series in 2019 that lasted 6 days in total

@Brerzerk

You know that 27 vs 47 is no different, there were both failure to the highest form and a reasonable poster will agree that agree to that.

@Jumpstart

And before that era WI were world beaters ent ?

the only differences between 47 and 27 are the coaches, their place of birth, how we feel about them and 20 runs

if weighted man for man the 47 runs team were better players

@Brerzerk

let compare the bowling for England vs Aussie, e.g Starc , Cummins, Josh, Boland , Webster and Green.