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Bob Woolmer: An opposing view
Bob Woolmer: An opposing view
Sun, Mar 25, '07 at 1:59 PM
In reply to MarcusGarveyLives
He also gave him the microphone which he took on to the world cup match against India. I never forgot that either. No one in the white world believed pure lily white Hansie was guilty even when he confessed.
People too damn naive on the one hand and others pretend to be gentlemen. While history has been my teacher and whether you want to be kind to the dead or not the fact is that Woolmer was the coach for two teams involved in gambling, one with drugs and he himself was involved in that microphone business.
He also gave him the microphone which he took on to the world cup match against India. I never forgot that either. No one in the white world believed pure lily white Hansie was guilty even when he confessed.
People too damn naive on the one hand and others pretend to be gentlemen. While history has been my teacher and whether you want to be kind to the dead or not the fact is that Woolmer was the coach for two teams involved in gambling, one with drugs and he himself was involved in that microphone business.
Fri, Mar 30, '07 at 4:06 PM
Bob Woolmer:
(a) was one of those who sought to profit from the white supremacist apartheid regime of South Africa when he went there as one of the so-called 'rebels' (or, more appropriately, sanction-busting mercenaries) in 1981-82;
(b) was coach of an international team implicated in some of the most serious allegations of bribery, match fixing and corruption, apparently led by his captain and right-hand man;
(c) has been described as a 'visionary' and 'innovative' coach, who despite his 'vision' and 'innovation' failed to win any significant honours at internaional level.
(d) was also coach of a team implicated in both match-fixing and drug-taking.
Those still seem to me to be the facts before and after his death.
(a) was one of those who sought to profit from the white supremacist apartheid regime of South Africa when he went there as one of the so-called 'rebels' (or, more appropriately, sanction-busting mercenaries) in 1981-82;
(b) was coach of an international team implicated in some of the most serious allegations of bribery, match fixing and corruption, apparently led by his captain and right-hand man;
(c) has been described as a 'visionary' and 'innovative' coach, who despite his 'vision' and 'innovation' failed to win any significant honours at internaional level.
(d) was also coach of a team implicated in both match-fixing and drug-taking.
Those still seem to me to be the facts before and after his death.
Fri, Mar 30, '07 at 9:04 PM
In reply to ChipOnShoulder Inc
what exactly is this white world? Come in anybody from the white world!
Visionary = winner? What part of innovation necessarily corresponds with winning 'any significant honours at international level' especially since they only really consist of the World Cup and....ummm...any series against Oz? As for innovation...suppose he found innovative ways to lose?
No one in the white world believed pure lily white Hansie was guilty even when he confessed.
what exactly is this white world? Come in anybody from the white world!
has been described as a 'visionary' and 'innovative' coach, who despite his 'vision' and 'innovation' failed to win any significant honours at internaional level.
Visionary = winner? What part of innovation necessarily corresponds with winning 'any significant honours at international level' especially since they only really consist of the World Cup and....ummm...any series against Oz? As for innovation...suppose he found innovative ways to lose?
Sat, Mar 31, '07 at 3:55 AM
In reply to Rovdawg
The views put forward by the international global media and their backers in the Caribbean.
The views put forward by the international global media and their backers in the Caribbean.
Tue, Apr 3, '07 at 4:17 PM
...who despite his 'vision' and 'innovation' failed to win any significant honours at internaional level.
Sorry, but what significant honours are there at international level? OK, he never won the Ashes.
Mon, Apr 9, '07 at 6:46 AM
In reply to MarcusGarveyLives
Who was RSAs coach when they beat us in the first ICC CHampions Trophy in 1998?
Who was RSAs coach when they beat us in the first ICC CHampions Trophy in 1998?
Mon, Apr 9, '07 at 6:54 AM
In reply to HumbleCalf
Until you made this idiotic statement I was with you. I am one of the loudest voices who have been calling and continues to call for BK's ass to be fired. No apologies here. Reason, he is a shit coach white black other. If you disagree list his accoumplishment as WI coach.
Wesley
So what's so terrible - come to think of it yuh all don't like White people so why the weeping and mourning? Yuh all did not want a White man to coach the Windies - so how cum Bob is a good guy, or is it the White man is acceptable as long as he does not come too close to us?
Until you made this idiotic statement I was with you. I am one of the loudest voices who have been calling and continues to call for BK's ass to be fired. No apologies here. Reason, he is a shit coach white black other. If you disagree list his accoumplishment as WI coach.
Wesley
Mon, Apr 9, '07 at 9:10 AM
In reply to Chrissy
Plenty smelled a rat with the Test against England in 2000.
No one in the white world believed pure lily white Hansie was guilty even when he confessed.
Plenty smelled a rat with the Test against England in 2000.
Mon, Apr 9, '07 at 9:13 AM
In reply to MarcusGarveyLives
If I'd been in Woolmer's position at the time of the rebel tour, I'd have gone too. Most of those who went on those tours had been previously shat upon by the governing bodies one way or another. He later coached a non-white team in South Africa during apartheid.
If I'd been in Woolmer's position at the time of the rebel tour, I'd have gone too. Most of those who went on those tours had been previously shat upon by the governing bodies one way or another. He later coached a non-white team in South Africa during apartheid.