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HEADLINE: The root of the problem

 
CaribbeanCricket.com Apr 12, 2007, 8:41:36 AM 

commentary by E. GLENFORD PRESCOTT

I think it is amazing that only when the West Indies cricket team embarrasses the region that we start scrambling about looking for solutions for the problems, which have been around for the last fifteen years.

The root of the problem has been the WICB, period
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Surya Apr 12, 2007, 8:42:59 AM 

What were the recommendations of the "Win World cup-2007" committee?

 
nevavex Apr 12, 2007, 8:47:39 AM 

Is this POINT?

 
crapaud Apr 12, 2007, 8:47:54 AM 

I like the no Digi and no Cable and Wireless. Is there some other deep pocket waiting in the wings?Don't we need funding anymore?

 
Surya Apr 12, 2007, 8:48:27 AM 

In reply to nevavex

Could be..tough to say though..normal posts and front page articles are of equal length :wink:

 
Vijay Apr 12, 2007, 8:51:14 AM 

In reply to Surya

Lara was on the WIN WORLD CUP COMMITTE..didn't you think he would firstly suggest the squad he wanted.

 
Surya Apr 12, 2007, 8:52:40 AM 

In reply to Vijay

I really wonder what the committee recommended and accomplished

 
Jimmy Apr 12, 2007, 8:54:39 AM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Perfect Points in this article. However this Crap spolied it

Darren Ganga named as West Indies captain.




 
ends Apr 12, 2007, 8:54:51 AM 

Man, what garbage being posted on the front page.....that article is an algamation of CC.com rants...

and after saying the root of the problem is the WICB, we get this:

"The players have been out gallivanting when they win, but this is ignored and only mentioned when a situation as with the current World Cup develops."

 
jacksprat Apr 12, 2007, 8:57:05 AM 

Roberts, Gordon Greenidge and Carl Hooper aided with the connivance of some players and commentators all form part of the melee.


Mr. Prescod Sir, are you sure the word you intended to use in that context was not milieu?

 
ends Apr 12, 2007, 8:59:09 AM 

By the way, what wrong with partying when you win?

 
dogfoot Apr 12, 2007, 9:03:59 AM 

Who is this guy?

 
boundaryline Apr 12, 2007, 9:11:27 AM 

In reply to dogfoot
does it matter??

 
ends Apr 12, 2007, 9:12:09 AM 

In reply to dogfoot

Some dumbass allowed to rant on the front page.

 
frangela Apr 12, 2007, 9:47:02 AM 

In reply to ends

This article is total dog mess - going back in times like a woman scorned.

hogwash

 
ends Apr 12, 2007, 9:48:48 AM 

In reply to frangela

Style, not necessarily content, reminds me of one of your rants.

 
POINT Apr 12, 2007, 10:11:56 AM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

Glenford , I am delighted that you have finally had a Saul on the road to Damascus Transformation . We have talked several times while I was residing in SVG . You were always a die hard supporter of the WICB .

Now listen carefully , you have on your hit list Chris Gayle , I aint with you on that one , and here is my reason .

CHRIS GAYLE HAS NOT GOT THE SAME AMOUNT OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT A CERTAIN HAS GOT , WHO IN NEARLY 10 YEARS OF PLAYING HAS AMASSED
A GLORIOUS AVERAGE OF THE MID TWENTIES . NOW IS THAT A FABRICATION THAT I HAVE JUST STATED .

SURELY YOU JEST . I am for fairness , and fairness means that ALL players , emphasis on ALL , must get the same opportunities that player got and is still getting .

Let us not create a double standard in the Selection process . If you read my threads on this MB you will see my formula for selecting players under " TIME FOR DRASTIC ACTION " by HENDRA .

 
POINT Apr 12, 2007, 10:17:57 AM 

In reply to nevavex

NO IT AINT I . However I know Glenford and he knows me .

He has always been a stronger supporter of the WICB , apparently he has now had a Soul on the Road to Damascus Transformation .

Those who formerly supported the WICB must be welcomed . Particular from the ranks of those I collectively call Charlatans .

 
greypatch Apr 12, 2007, 10:50:28 AM 

at the end of the what changes (top and bottom) will be made...

the powers that be will remain and this tata will continue

 
Chrissy Apr 12, 2007, 11:47:41 AM 

In reply to POINT

YOu can welcome them on your own. Dem jumping on the gravy train without me. They remind me of politicians switching parties when they see the polls.

Run dem all!

 
apleton Apr 12, 2007, 1:00:02 PM 

PRESCOTT IS A REAL DONKEY REAR END.

HIM SAY WHA WE ALL KNOW BOUT THE WICB. BUT TO USE ALL THAT JUST TO SAY DROP GAYLE.

THIS MAN A REAL DONKEY POOPS YES

 
Narper Apr 12, 2007, 3:04:35 PM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

I think it is amazing that only when the West Indies cricket team embarrasses the region that we start scrambling about looking for solutions for the problems, which have been around for the last fifteen years.


You must be a real newbie to this board...or a big skunt

Embarass de region????....we have been ebbarrassed on numerous occasions in the last 10 years

In test cricket yuh remember 51....and 47...dem is team scores....not de opening batsmen...or dem partnership

Remember a few whitewashes too????

Look I have been a poster on this board for more than 4 years...and many many posters have put forward REAL REAL solutions to our problem

But who de fcuk is listening????

Or better yet....how de fcuk do you make dem listen....and WHO IS DEM?????

Politicians at the highest level have gotten involved....there is a friggin Caricom cricket committee....but to no avail....we have gone deeper and deeper

So don't chat shit....okay

 
Fortis Apr 12, 2007, 5:58:19 PM 

In reply to Narper

Don't let this Johnny-come-lately run up the I blood pressure. The half-idiot lacks the knowledge to even rank as a full idiot. :lol:

 
carl0002 Apr 12, 2007, 6:07:55 PM 

Glenford? Only a dottie would have such a name :lol:

 
azadtnt Apr 12, 2007, 7:59:59 PM 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Gayle is a lazy cricketer and must be dropped from this team, he plays as though he is standing on glue. Sorry if you don't like what is being said, but these are the facts. Apart from the last game Sarwan is another player must be dropped. He plays across the line, consistently gets hit on his helmet and cant resist the hook shot, on top of this you cannot depend on both of them. Bravo, Dwayne Smith and Samuels along with Gayle will never make my WI team if I had a choice. I do believe that Lara should step down as captain in both forms of the game, his captaincy leaves much to be desired. Coach Bennett King has to go, he is nothing but a waste of time and money. Seeing is believing. I think that its time that Devon Smith, Joseph, Parchment, Simmons, Rampaul, Lawson, Jaggernauth and Sammy given a fair chance and not just a game or two, along with Lara, Chanderpaul, Ganga, Ramdin, Powell, Taylor and Collymore. This would be my fifteen man squad for England. It would be nice to win, however, it is also time to rebuild. The Coaching staff should consist of three coaches of whom the WICB should ask past WEST INDIAN legends to do the job along with an outside sport physio preferably from the US to help keep these guys fit, ready and mentally strong. I also would like to see along with these guys selected, a core of players comprising of 25 in total in a camp throughout the year while not on cricket duty for the physical, mental and tactical development of their game.


 
Fortis Apr 13, 2007, 5:36:58 AM 

In reply to azadtnt

There are several fatal flaws in your argument, because you have deliberately circumvented the problems with Windies cricket. Anyone can name their 15 players under the guise of being pragmatic. However, at the end of the series, whether ODI or test, the results are destined to be the same, and that is, another string of ignomious defeats for those purporting to be "class" cricketers.

Until the root cause of the problems is addressed honestly and diligently, I don't care which coach or coaches, Windies legend(s), Reggae artiste or Calypsonian are used, the results WILL NOT CHANGE! The standard of cricket in the Caribbean is at an all time low because:

1. The young talented cricketers no longer have the platform of the English County Cricket leagues to hone their skills and professionalism and there is no comparable substitute in the Caribbean.

2. The constant harping about money is a CONSTANT distraction. Neither the WIPA nor the WICB seems capable of reasonableness and therefore both are culpable where this distraction is concerned by being the catalysts for its prolongation. The players therefore sulk their way to the crease like little children deprived of a McDonald's or Wendy's hamburger and Coca Cola and their lack of performance is the result.

3. Insularity is alive and well, whether we want to believe such or not. It is one of the main issues holding back the advancement of cricket in the Caribbean. We simply need to just look at how the teams are selected to understand that it is not about the best players being invited. Barbados at one time, for example, boycotted a match because their homeboy was not selected. Until we are matured enough and honest enough to accept the obvious - select the best available players always - cricket will continue to suffer.

4. Training facilities across the Caribbean are in dire need of improvement. Fill in the blanks...............

5. The WICB is devoid of those who understand what it takes for proper and effective administration of the game at all levels. Fill in the blanks............

I was fortunate to be studying in Australia during the Kerry Packer World Series era to witness perhaps the best cricket ever played. I also know for a fact that after the Windies started whipping all and sundry back then, that the Australian cricket authorities in particular took it upon themselves to emulate the approach of the Windies. They did not stop there and built several academies around the sub-continent that has spawned the Ricky Pontings of the current Australian squad. Maybe it is time that the WICB admits its collective ineptness, study the approach of the successful cricketing countries and use the data gathered to develop a first class program for the Caribbean.



 
buds Apr 13, 2007, 9:10:30 AM 

Boomshot article....

All the cock-roaches dem scatter!!

Excellent article..

 
POINT Apr 13, 2007, 9:50:04 AM 

In reply to Fortis

I want to express my thanks for what you have stated .

You may or may not know that sometime in the recent past , a certain Professor from Barbados started making noise about having an Academy at the UWI Campus in Barbados .

Upon hearing him I realized that the Academy in Grenada was in trouble .

Not long after that the Academy in Grenada was closed . Now we are being told that it was for lack of funds . I however have serious doubts about that .

You have failed however to mention an important component in this fiasco , and that is the Charlatans who masquerade as Sports Journalists in this Region many of them well known who for decades have witnessed all the malgovernance of the WICB and said absolutely nothing . My opinion is that they are complicit with the WICB for the sorry state West Indies Cricket is in . THEY HAD AND HAVE THE POWER OF THE PEN AND DID NOTHING .

By their silence they helped keep the WICB in power , it is for that reason I have labelled them the bedfellows of the WICB aka the Pirates .


In that respect they were like Manicou rather than Men . But now that the S... HAS HIT THE FAN , SOME OF THEM HAVE HAD A SAUL ON THE ROAD TO DAMASCUS TRANSFORMATION .

In any discussion of Cricket in the Region their actions must be highlighted .

 
Fortis Apr 13, 2007, 11:34:55 AM 

In reply to POINT

Yes, you are correct of course regarding those in the journalism profession. An honest and committed press can be a potent weapon for advancement of the society in which it operates. Unfortunately, the journalists in the Caribbean, with precious few exceptions, fall way short of the excellence needed to expose follies that obtain in the WICB and other entitities across the region, including several governments.

 
azadtnt Apr 14, 2007, 8:59:34 PM 

In reply to Fortis
What I have pointed out is all about the present and short term plans. However, the situation goes way beyond what I have mentioned and would not materialise over night. I do agree with what you said which I have mentioned in other headings and website as long term solutions to WI cricket.

 
SamlordPirate Apr 14, 2007, 11:27:07 PM 

dang the tings u do to get an avatar...


what next..? :roll: :roll: