It's official: Bennett King's disastrous tour of duty as head coach of the West Indies team has ended.

King will not accompany the team on the England Tour and the WICB says it will announce the Management Team, including the Coach, for that tour at a later date.
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In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
one door close, another one open!

give the man basket to fetch water! what other results were expected?? :roll: :roll:

King fraid Sarwan :D

Well after that lukewarm endorsement he gave him, if I were King, I would not want to be in a hotel alone with Sarwan, especially in the light of recent events. 8) 8) 8)

In reply to googley


True story, the man tried hard and he had respect from Brian Charles LARA. Who cares about other people of the MB, LARA tell him he is a great coach. I know that people like Chrissy are going to get on here bad mouth Bennett, but like I have said before if you aren't going to put your hand up and try and do the job better then shut your fat mouth. Who cares if you have a university education you still talk like a gutter rat. He tried his guts out, and you want to know why Bryce the strength and conditioning coach quit, because certain lazy players refused to do what he asked them to do. He was employed to help the players increase their fitness etc and they refused to do what his program dictated. It is no suprise that West Indies cricket fails to go ahead. Goodbye and good riddance to West Indies. Bennett come home to Australia and lets get back to normal life.

In reply to furry

Bennett King is a complete utter failure. Good riddance and I hope the door does hit him in the ass.

Oh, and the fact that his players refused to listen to a member of his staff is an indictment of him, not anyone else. Nice try though.

_ryan

what are our chances of landing whatmore? He's probably looking to move up, but still.

In reply to Admin

I would be willing to accept that argument if it wasn't for the fact that coaches and managers for years have been having the same difficulty!

In reply to faada

It only happens to mediocre coaches. Like Bennett King.

_r

In reply to Admin

does that mean that the windies have only ever had mediocre coaches and managers?

If so, who would you recommend?

In reply to faada

Correct. We've only had mediocre coaches (led by the overpaid Bennett King) with no people skills. I recommend Dav Whatmore.

_r

In reply to Admin

You think Kanhai was mediocre?

In reply to faada

As a WI coach, yes.

_r

In reply to Admin

Do you believe if Whatmore comes in and is not given authority over the players, that he will last his term without being as much of a failure as the others you term 'mediocre'?

In reply to faada

I'm not answering idiotic questions. Who had more power/authority than Bennett King?

_r

In reply to faada
Leh me jump in heh , as you say I don't say nothing . I want to know exactly what you mean by authority over the players. Look, If they are atheletes and we assume they are, they are familiar with a coaches role in the entire setup. Hence, I see no reason for him to be given authority. He is charged with doing a job and ensures he fulfills his part. anyone or anything that steps in the way is removed. SWe West Indians talk too much and never do anything.

In reply to Patrickcity

so what if he sets up a training session and nobody shows up, who is accountable?

In reply to Admin

u too easy, doesn't take long for you to start attacking the messenger does it? :roll:

see you next time.

In reply to faada

Then everybody goes. unequivocally, everyone.

In reply to faada

[[ Splash ]] LOL

_r

In reply to Patrickcity

meaning all the players? or the coach and the players?

In reply to faada

The players, :twisted:, As I said the coach would have fulfilled his part of the bargain

Wait he running from Sars.

Finallyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy. Thank you

So who's next in line to take the poisoned chalice?

Is this BK's way of saying that he will only coach if Lara is playing?

Hmmmmmmmmm!

I can't be that he is upset cuz KG quit.

In reply to Admin

Man ease up off our Faada nuh. He didnot know BK had full powers

Burger King should have had the courage and the gonads to speak out, even subtly. He never put real and public pressure on the board to make the changes that needed to be made, to enforce Cavanagh's fitness regime, to see to it that a plan for an academy was in place, to make sure there was a fitness plan that included trainers at territorial level, to implement a plan for CWC. He never exemplified those attributes that we were told were his forte, developing young talent, raising fitness levels etc. That his inability to do so may not have been his fault is a given, but the fact that he never made a fuss about it speaks to his character, insecurity and immaturity. A strogner coach would have called for a better environment.

In reply to terryfinisterre

Bennett King never had a chance.

See Joe Hoad.....

In reply to Larr Pullo I agree, but how do we fix it so that the next coach has one?

In reply to anandgb

Actually give him power....don't just give him lip service.

In reply to Larr Pullo But like Ryan pointed out, BK had all teh power. He even had the magic wand on deciding who plays or not.

Surely that was more than enough power.

Goodbye & good riddance Bennett King. You didn't do the job that you were paid to do. Time for WICB to f-off with foreign coaches and look to the region for somebody to lead this hapless team. Only a West Indian can understand the mentality of West Indians, only dem can lick dem boys upside dem head when they don't perform.

WICB wasted all that money on rass King. He behaved like a tourist on an extended vacation ... no worries mon!

In reply to Admin

I wouldn't worry about answering idiotic questions, stop making idiotic comments, you should have your little pen taken off you. Here is your argument, the coach is not good(and that is mainly because he is a foriegner), okay well you are getting yourself a West Indian to coach the team. So using your rationale, that it is the coach and not the players who are at fault, you will win the series in England and most things after that!!!! Back up your stupid comments. Don't matter who is the coach of the West Indies at the moment, apart from a handful of players the rest are spoilt little boys who wouldn't last 2 seconds in a country that had more talented and dedicated players to select. Typical attitude it is the coaches fault. Go back to the comments made by Rick Ponting when he was talking to the media about Duncan Fletcher. The media said that he did wonders with the suprise ashes victory over Australia in 2005 and Ponting's comment "He didn't the players did." Right, he hit the nail on the head, the coach can only do so much and then it comes down to the application of the players. If he is such a mediocre coach as you say then why did LARA rate his coaching ability so highly, LARA has a little bit of world class experience, I would suggest a hell of lot more than you or have you successfully or even unsuccessfully coached an international team lately. I know KING personally and he put his heart and soul into attempting to drag WI cricket back up, he didn't succeed but all blame can't be placed in his lap. The players need to take some ownership, they were the ones bowling wides, dropping catches, and playing stupid shots to throw away their wickets. What sort of professional athletes complain that it is too hot whilst completing fielding training, what type of professional athlets go out till all hours of the morning drinking alcohol and partying when they are in the middle of the biggest event of their sporting careers. The problem is the players get paid big money, win, lose or draw and it is reflected in their terrible attitudes and efforts on the field.

In reply to anandgb

Well clearly Ryan is not as knowledgable as he makes out because BK was part of a selection PANEL and did not have the magic wand on who played or not. Ryan's comments are just vitriolic rubbish. Just sit back and watch what happens when the next sucker comes in and has to try and straighten out these spoilt little boys.

In reply to terryfinisterre

You wouldn't have a clue what BK did behind the scenes, the fact that he refused to make his arguments or whinge about things to the media only goes to show hhis level of maturity and professionlism. Unless he rubbishes everyone publicly he is immature is that what you are saying? Go and away and grow up yourself.

In reply to TrinCanJam

Goodbye and good riddance to your type of person, he will come home to Australia and have a stress free life and laugh his head off when he watches how the next coach flounders with the underperforming team of spoilt overpaid players. In fact we all will, the only shame is that people like you are allowed access to computers at whatever mental institute it is that you live in. I have been to the Caribbean twice whilst BK was coach and most people that I spoke to thought that he was doing a great job considering WHAT PLAYER TALENT HE HAD AT HIS DISPOSAL. But there will always big small minded fools who hide behind computer consoles, go out and make a difference then if you are such an expert. HAHAHA. Come back to Australia BK and get involved with PROFESSIONAL sports people. No suprise with our attitude, we are the best at cricket and many other sports, not afraid of hard work.

In reply to furry

bait to phish for dollars!

In reply to furry

Shot.

In reply to OZGOD

With the tour only 2/3 weeks away it might be a local coach in temporary charge.

I think with the players lazy attitude, most coaches are going to have problems with the team.

King hasn't taken the Windies forward, but he can't be held accountable for the problems the Windies currently have.

In reply to furry

Ryan not so smart, don't take what he says too seriously...

Only other fools like fuzzy-logic will blv that crap.

In reply to furry Flurry of fury..Funny how people keep blaming BK because he got big bucks...Yet the same set of people support the "player power" and big bucks for players while not saying an iota about players' accountability and commitment to improve

In reply to furry

I understand your anger, but really Ryan is not excusing the lads at all. He is on record saying they are a mediocre bunch. He just happens to think that the coach and overall management is also not good enough.

While I do not agree wrt BK not doing a good job, I find that the same people who are pointing the fingers at BK are also making the opposit excuse for Brian.

Which is it? If BK is culpable, then Brian and Lloyd are also culpable. What exactly are their roles wrt discipline etc.

The players have shown indiscipline, but should we consider the circumstances under which they have been playing and paid?

Do you think the disputes had any impact? Do you think that the players are under pressure to play for themselves rather than the team when you consider that they could be dropped at the drop of a pin? Consider these questions in your all encompassing claims.

Look at how many people failed to do anything with the almost the set of players
-Viv Richards failed to make an impact as Chairman of selectors..Those who are pointing that BK had the magic wand, didn't Viv have the magic wand too, in terms of who plays and who doesn't?
-Clive Lioyd has tried in the past and is "trying" now.. I am sure it's all trying for him..
-Let's give a benefit of doubt to Logie and Harper
-Lara failed to inspire..It's disgusting that this group failed to learn from the Greatest of them all when it comes to building an innings
-Everyone's favorite punchbag BK failed, ofcourse..
Listen people, the only wins that this set of players seem capable is when WIPA and WICB go to arbitration.
When so many people failed, probabably it's time to look in the direction of the players and do something about it

In reply to Surya There are people here with an agenda to oust BK simply because of his tan or lack thereof. Nothing more nothing less. :lol:

In reply to furry

Predictable enough that you would ghet your knickers in a bunch, furball, but by remaining silent, not only did King further the erosiion of the situation, he also damaged his reputation by demonstrating his inability to get things done, especially those things that he had been touted as specifically b eing able to do.

I grantyou that future potential employers would more than likely take into account the West Indies situation as a whole, as opposed to picking out BK's role in it, but it's unlikey that he will be allowed to continue in international cricket as a head coach; not until he does a stint in grade cricket, or at an academy.

I find it amazing that Admin blames BK because the PLAYERS refuysed to follow his diectives on fitness , on diet & on taining. Is there NOTHING that the players are responsible for, in truth?

BK was able to win three Queensland championships in a row in the most competitive FC competition on earth.Apparently those players were ale to listen to thim and thrive, despite his "poor people skills." One of theose players-Matt Hayden-was able under BK guidance to cure his poor footwork technique and went on to terrorize bowlers all over the world.Contrast that result with Chris Gayle , somebody who just doesnt do off series training.
As the coaches report said, the retainer contracts did not require the players to engage in off series training, so the coach was unable to sanction trhe players for the falure to follow his fitness regimen. THat-plus the players sheer laziness is why BK did not succeed.
" Poor people skills"?? WHAT NONSENSE!!
You should also consider the two & a half years of labor chaos that has engulfed BK since day one. With all that happened, its a miracle that he accomplished anything at all.

I call BS on the idea that BKs silence eroded anyting. PLayer laziness is what caused the situation, nothing else.Had the coaches report com4e out earlier, we would havesimply had earlier player denials that anything was wrong, such as Sarwans denial the other day