by RYAN PATRICK
An arbitration panel chaired by Barbados chief justice Sir David Simmons has been asked to determine whether the upcoming West Indies tour of England is considered part of the ICC's FTP (Future Tours Program).
The issue was sent to arbitration after the WICB flip-flopped on its earlier position that the tour was outside the FTP and required the approval of the West Indies Players' Association. (See background on the dispute here) Full Story
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HEADLINE: Back to arbitration
HEADLINE: Back to arbitration
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 5:01 PM
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 5:06 PM
These greedy no good players 
I hope they getr good representation from Ramnarine, or they should fire his arse too
I hope they getr good representation from Ramnarine, or they should fire his arse too
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 5:09 PM
Just heard Tony Deyal on the radio claiming that the ICC GM or CEO (Richards?) sent an email confirming that even tho this tour is additional (to minimum requirements) it still is a part of the FTP.
I guess there will have to be a clear definition of the FTP. Is that available anywhere?
I guess there will have to be a clear definition of the FTP. Is that available anywhere?
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 5:13 PM
Deyal said the MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) between the WICB and WIPA does not include the letters "FTP" and the board is now taking a firm stand that WIPA's approval is not required for this tour.
Is this true?!?! Is there really no mention in the MOU of the FTP?? If that's a fact then why is Tony Deyal trying to clarify whether or not this tour is part of the FTP? Makes no sense to me.
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 5:18 PM
In reply to faada
Usual tomfoolery, skuntery, general incomptence and banditry!!
Par for the course
Usual tomfoolery, skuntery, general incomptence and banditry!!
Par for the course
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 5:45 PM
debut: Feb 8, '03
13,948 runs
In reply to faada
would you agree that tony deyal was not making too much sense and was not representing the WICB very well?
would you agree that tony deyal was not making too much sense and was not representing the WICB very well?
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 6:02 PM
In reply to Yamfoot
on the radio? I was doing other things at the same time, so only half paying attention. He didn't come off very well tho.
on the radio? I was doing other things at the same time, so only half paying attention. He didn't come off very well tho.
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 6:07 PM
debut: Feb 8, '03
13,948 runs
In reply to faada
yes, on the radio. you should have listened keenly.
yes, on the radio. you should have listened keenly.
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 7:12 PM
In reply to Yamfoot How do you as a journalist deal with the blatant dishonesty that these people continuously perpetuate on the WI public.If you clearly point out that they are lying,then they would not give you access to players and information.Are you not therefore forced to not truly report things as they are??
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 7:15 PM
In reply to Dukes
Forget the journalists. How do you negotiate with an organisation that can decide, after agreements are reached, to change their minds?
I really admire Ramnarine's peacefulness. If it was me, I'd be confrontational and militant.
_r
Forget the journalists. How do you negotiate with an organisation that can decide, after agreements are reached, to change their minds?
I really admire Ramnarine's peacefulness. If it was me, I'd be confrontational and militant.
_r
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 7:29 PM
In reply to Admin
Have you checked out the performance of the players that he is negotiating for?
I think he is being as militant as he possibly can be.
Have you checked out the performance of the players that he is negotiating for?
I think he is being as militant as he possibly can be.
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 7:35 PM
In reply to carib Excellent question..How nice would it be if the players put their head down and win something and launch their fights on that platform? Just for a change..
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 7:35 PM
In reply to carib So you are justifying dishonesty on behalf of the WICB because the players are performing poorly???
You are really a low life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are really a low life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tue, Apr 24, '07 at 7:58 PM
debut: Feb 8, '03
13,948 runs
In reply to Dukes
Like Simon did, you check the facts, make sure you are up on your information and if the interviewee is obviously not telling the truth as you know it, you clarify again, and if the truth as you know it is still not forthcoming, then you call the person on it, as Simon did today.
I think at some point you have to call a spade a spade and hope people respect you for it. Organizations these days know that you can't really deny peopel access or else conclusions will be drawn, so most are cooperative. I've typically not had a problem with access to any large extent.
Like Simon did, you check the facts, make sure you are up on your information and if the interviewee is obviously not telling the truth as you know it, you clarify again, and if the truth as you know it is still not forthcoming, then you call the person on it, as Simon did today.
I think at some point you have to call a spade a spade and hope people respect you for it. Organizations these days know that you can't really deny peopel access or else conclusions will be drawn, so most are cooperative. I've typically not had a problem with access to any large extent.