In reply to primedog
You can't be possibly serious with this response. WACA.
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You can't be possibly serious with this response. WACA.
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HEADLINE: Blame WICB foot-dragging for latest dispute
HEADLINE: Blame WICB foot-dragging for latest dispute
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 12:35 PM
In reply to primedog
If you were WIPA's President, what would your response be in this matter?
Call me biased, but it seems that WIPA's problem is not one of ignorance, but instead one of willful confusion. WIPA appears to me to thrive on discord.
If you were WIPA's President, what would your response be in this matter?
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 12:36 PM
In reply to primedog
If that were true then how come every single decision has been ruled in favour of the players.
Look the WICB can add any bilateral tour they wish, but they cannot chat rubbish about a bilateral tour being part of FTP. That is rubbish. The only reason the ICC includes bilateral tours on their schedule (with the word additional next to them) is so that ICC umpires, etc are provided.
The WICB are a bunch of jokers.
If that were true then how come every single decision has been ruled in favour of the players.
Look the WICB can add any bilateral tour they wish, but they cannot chat rubbish about a bilateral tour being part of FTP. That is rubbish. The only reason the ICC includes bilateral tours on their schedule (with the word additional next to them) is so that ICC umpires, etc are provided.
The WICB are a bunch of jokers.
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 1:00 PM
debut: Apr 27, '03
62,749 runs
In reply to Chrissy ... jokers make you laugh ... me stop laugh long long time ... them is a set a [beep] [beep] [beep] [BEEP!]
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 1:06 PM
debut: Feb 6, '03
24,734 runs
yall have to know is ah set ah old time directors yuh dealing with here....real hard ears men, who don't like people orderin them around...they tek their sweet time to make decisions
they really need a young (mid 30s), intelligent person with plenty hustle to run this organization...
they really need a young (mid 30s), intelligent person with plenty hustle to run this organization...
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 1:42 PM
In reply to Chrissy and Admin
Don't get me wrong. The WICB has been dead wrong in 99% of the positions that they have taken within the past 2-3 years I'd say. They have been wrong and they have lost. It seems to me the issue there is incompetence more than anything else. Its not excused but it is what it is.
One thing the WICB come with proposals and positions that in some cases common sense should dictate they cant win.
My thing is on the other side WIPA recognizes the power they have in my opinion has abused it.
In all both sides seem quite comfortable with the status quo of this constant us against them.
I have advocated from jump street bringing in consultants from successful leagues (see MLB, NBA and NFL) to offer suggestions on infrastructure and relationships.
Don't get me wrong. The WICB has been dead wrong in 99% of the positions that they have taken within the past 2-3 years I'd say. They have been wrong and they have lost. It seems to me the issue there is incompetence more than anything else. Its not excused but it is what it is.
One thing the WICB come with proposals and positions that in some cases common sense should dictate they cant win.
My thing is on the other side WIPA recognizes the power they have in my opinion has abused it.
In all both sides seem quite comfortable with the status quo of this constant us against them.
I have advocated from jump street bringing in consultants from successful leagues (see MLB, NBA and NFL) to offer suggestions on infrastructure and relationships.
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 1:46 PM
In reply to primedog
How about some examples of this abuse of power? Let's get down to nitty gritty without the rhetoric.
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My thing is on the other side WIPA recognizes the power they have in my opinion has abused it.
How about some examples of this abuse of power? Let's get down to nitty gritty without the rhetoric.
_r
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 2:07 PM
In reply to Admin
Really its not rhetoric. Sorry that you interpret it that way.
When a work stoppage is threatened in all but rare instances that's what I'm refering to as an abuse of power.
At the most basic level WICB's goal is to field a West Indies cricket team. They chose who they want to represent them and the players through WIPA decide whther or not they go.
Again on the most basic level its in the players' best interest to go and play because that's how they make a living.
The compensation has to be fair, and I guess its arguable that that is what this is all about.
Really its not rhetoric. Sorry that you interpret it that way.
When a work stoppage is threatened in all but rare instances that's what I'm refering to as an abuse of power.
At the most basic level WICB's goal is to field a West Indies cricket team. They chose who they want to represent them and the players through WIPA decide whther or not they go.
Again on the most basic level its in the players' best interest to go and play because that's how they make a living.
The compensation has to be fair, and I guess its arguable that that is what this is all about.
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 2:17 PM
Let the arbitrators sort out this nonsense.
I would MUCH rather the WICB spend the time sorting out who is the captain, coach, and the team than engaging in this who struck John debate.
In fact if they cancelled the tour altogether, that would be fine.
I would MUCH rather the WICB spend the time sorting out who is the captain, coach, and the team than engaging in this who struck John debate.
In fact if they cancelled the tour altogether, that would be fine.
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 2:24 PM
In reply to Admin
If I could impose on you... What do you think would be a fair braod framework going forward interms of compensation. I'm not asking you to deal with all contigencies, but just a broad framework.
If I could impose on you... What do you think would be a fair braod framework going forward interms of compensation. I'm not asking you to deal with all contigencies, but just a broad framework.
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 2:24 PM
In reply to primedog
But that only happens when the WICB refuses to negotiate in good faith. Could you tell us one time when WIPA struck, or came near to striking without a good faith attempt by them to negotiate with the WICB?
Why is it that despite the WICB being wrong just about EVERY time they come up against the players that you somehow find a way to blame the players for the mess? And you say we shouldn't call you biased? You seem like the very definition of bias.
When a work stoppage is threatened in all but rare instances that's what I'm refering to as an abuse of power.
But that only happens when the WICB refuses to negotiate in good faith. Could you tell us one time when WIPA struck, or came near to striking without a good faith attempt by them to negotiate with the WICB?
Why is it that despite the WICB being wrong just about EVERY time they come up against the players that you somehow find a way to blame the players for the mess? And you say we shouldn't call you biased? You seem like the very definition of bias.
Thu, Apr 26, '07 at 3:02 PM
In reply to Zikdaman
De man jes want to watch he cricket in peace.
He eh care how it come about, who pay what price etc.
De man jes want to watch he cricket in peace.
He eh care how it come about, who pay what price etc.