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Ronsford Beaton...

 
spider 2017-12-24 08:18:15 

...reported for suspect action.

 
silver 2017-12-24 08:20:40 

In reply to spider


Where did you get this rubbish from

 
WestDem 2017-12-24 08:25:41 

In reply to silver

Check Spiderisaskunt.com fuh de news! lol lol

 
spider 2017-12-24 08:26:57 

In reply to silver

Why do you say it's rubbish?

Are you saying is fake news?

 
spider 2017-12-24 08:29:50 

ICC

 
spider 2017-12-24 08:52:35 

Is this really surprising news? Hasn't there been talk about his action?

 
Devin 2017-12-24 09:05:11 

West Indian umpires are nothing but a bunch of fu#king pantyseeds. Do those useless mofos ever call anyone for pelting? Shittingford, Norine, Beatmetoaton, Sagga Skunt Samuels, Jermaine Looseone.

 
WestDem 2017-12-24 09:39:36 

In reply to Devin

West Indies umpire have to eat food too... you want dem end up on sidelines?

 
dayne 2017-12-24 09:45:09 

It is not surprising, he has been doing this for years now, I do not understand why the WI seniors did not warn him about the odd ball that he throws. This is one of the reasons why WI cricket is where it is. Kenroy Williams I notice was doing the same thing, but lately he has stop throwing a few.

 
Devin 2017-12-24 09:55:48 

In reply to WestDem

Come on man. Who the fu#k will reprimand them for doing their job? Is not like anyone is watching or anyone cares. I would fu#king call them the first time I see a dodgy action. I don't even need a second delivery for confirmation.

 
Khaga 2017-12-24 09:58:48 

In reply to Devin

West Indian fans bray the loudest about subcontinental pelters and many justify their own..

 
Runs 2017-12-24 10:00:34 

The cameramen were zooming in on him a lot. razz

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Khaga 2017-12-24 10:01:25 

In reply to Runs

Haven't heard our Guyanese experts talk much about this Beaton guy..

 
doosra 2017-12-24 10:13:28 

nothing new

years ago he was called out right here

 
cricketest 2017-12-24 10:18:47 

they use a picture of him appealing...to accompany article about suspect action? lol

does he have 10+ degrees of flex in appeal too?

lol

 
Cheeks 2017-12-24 10:20:39 

Ouch. I was saying that his elbow looked a lil suspect to a former colleague of mine..two days ago. I feared this would happen.

 
camos 2017-12-24 10:27:11 

In reply to Devin


forget the umpires ,what about a bowling coach you paying hundred of thousand dollars per year? Fans have said that for some time ,and you want to tell me the selectors and coach can't tell? rolleyes

 
anthonyp 2017-12-24 10:31:59 

Was expected.. couple years ago the umps reported him in a first class match.. way way pass the 15 degrees..

He worked with some local GCB coach when he came back.. but he and the GCB got wrong and he went his own way.. he's ah big boy told dem fellas he don't have time with Guyana cricket anymore..

 
mikesiva 2017-12-24 10:43:19 

In reply to spider

"West Indies pacer Ronsford Beaton has been reported for a suspect bowling action during West Indies' second ODI against New Zealand on Saturday. Beaton sent down eight overs in that match and picked up 1 for 60."

More here

 
Oilah 2017-12-24 10:56:09 

All a matter of degree wink

 
doosra 2017-12-24 11:05:57 

Kesrick WIlliams is not too far from a similar call imho

 
Devin 2017-12-24 11:08:35 

In reply to camos

Boss, I was just about to post the same thing. Once they get into camp, not only will the coaches and trainers know, but I'm sure that even the players will discuss it amongst themselves, and possibly in the open as well.

Absolutely ludicrous.

 
camos 2017-12-24 11:39:37 

In reply to Devin
indictment of the three selectors and the bowling coach!

guys getting money for nothing,this occurs far too often in west indies cricket.

 
natty_forever 2017-12-24 11:44:37 

... suh the coach never know this?

 
Runs 2017-12-24 12:12:14 

In reply to camos

Yep cool

 
jen 2017-12-24 12:15:33 

In reply to dayne

Kenroy Williams I notice was doing the same thing, but lately he has stop throwing a few.


Careful there brother, I know the name you are trying to say and it's not that one. Think that guy plays for Barbados big grin

 
camos 2017-12-24 12:24:10 

In reply to jen

is there a 'Keswick' also?

 
spider 2017-12-24 12:25:38 

In reply to anthonyp

Was expected.. couple years ago the umps reported him in a first class match.. way way pass the 15 degrees..


How do you know it was way way past 15 degrees?

 
Devin 2017-12-24 12:26:10 

In reply to camos

Too frequent an occurrence in West Indies cricket. Almost as though they're content to let the players graduate to the highest level, and then be exposed on the big stage.

 
camos 2017-12-24 12:29:45 

In reply to Devin

it says we are either technically incompetent or blatant thieves!

 
Headley 2017-12-24 12:44:18 

Just a reminder that there has been no testing yet. His action was reported as suspect.

The two corbeaux could at least wait for confirmation.

 
sgtdjones 2017-12-24 13:08:55 

In reply to Headley

Have you ever seen a West Indian player get the benefit of the doubt?

We gats teif, robbed blind, fined , suspended etc etc

Others walk away free.

 
Khaga 2017-12-24 13:53:39 

In reply to sgtdjones

Fast bowlers chucking is dangerous..amputate them.. twisted twisted

 
sgtdjones 2017-12-24 14:15:47 

In reply to Khaga

So ya spin bowlers that umps were scared to call

is ok ? huh

razz razz razz razz

 
TheTrail 2017-12-24 14:33:57 

West Indian Test umpire Steve Bucknor called a Windward Islands bowler for throwing in a Busta Cup match yesterday.

Off-spinner Shane Shillingford was removed from the attack on the opening day of the Windwards' game against Leeward Islands at St George's, Grenada, on Thursday, after Bucknor called no-ball on three occasions because of the bowler "throwing".

Shillingford was called twice when Bucknor was standing at square leg. When he was switched to the same end at which Bucknor was standing, the veteran of 54 Tests and 80 one-day internationals called Shillingford again. Under Law 24 of the Laws of Cricket, the bowler had to be removed immediately from the attack for the remainder of the innings following his third transgression.




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Devin 2017-12-24 14:47:02 

In reply to Khaga

lol lol lol lol

 
Devin 2017-12-24 14:52:26 

In reply to TheTrail

So only a West Indian umpire with international experience has the ability/confidence to expose the blatant pelters?

I have a real issue with chuckers. They fully fu#king well know what they are doing.

 
tc1 2017-12-24 14:52:28 

In reply to doosra

And u muddies called for him to be include in all formats.

 
doosra 2017-12-24 15:04:44 

In reply to tc1

just in case that were true, it wouldn't be different from you bimbammers calling for every little-talented cricketers out of your dot big grin

 
BeatDball 2017-12-24 15:10:46 

What did I say, lang time ago...alyuh moddas! Noticed it from get go...when he doesn't get wickets, he gets frustrated & would start to pelt. He got carried-away when bishop bigged him up. Done.

 
doosra 2017-12-24 15:16:35 

anodda one that Ian Bishop called


#donotcallanymore big grin

 
openning 2017-12-24 15:44:33 

In reply to doosra

just in case that were true, it wouldn't be different from you bimbammers calling for every little-talented cricketers out of your dot

How many Bajans posters are calling for Pride players to be selected?
Kyle Hope and Raymond Reifer are non-Pride players
BTW, Kyle Hope captained the Red Force last season and Raymond is The Jaguars best All-rounder.

 
doosra 2017-12-24 15:57:26 

In reply to openning

maybe you don't have to call for them because they are all there there?

but an old strategy is to recollect false facts from the past and present it as some truth

tcl is pulling facts out of his rear end, if he needs to pull them out at all

 
analyst-kid 2017-12-24 16:01:24 

In reply to openning

Kyle Hope topped the Trinidad batting averages to get a WI pick.

 
openning 2017-12-24 16:08:14 

In reply to analyst-kid

He must had done something to be in the Red Force team, them posters want to go alone, with Kyle Hope as one of their captains.
Never get trick by a Trickydick.

lol lol

 
Maispwi 2017-12-24 16:22:48 

In reply to Devin

Bucknor made dat call when umpires could still call players for throwing. Its interesting dat he never called Lawson.

Umpires cannot call anybody at de FC level and above anymore.

The protocol is to report the bowler for a suspect action which must be accompanied with video of the suspected deliveries.

The FC level games in de Caribbean doh have de necessary video coverage to submit so de Board does not even publish the bowlers dat umpires consider to have suspect actions.

Doh blame de umpires

 
BeatDball 2017-12-24 16:29:19 

have de necessary video coverage! Jeez, do I think what you mean by that is WI don't have the necessary technology/camera equipment to properly film it?!! Those equipment too $$$ for WI or WI aren't too sophisticated to operate it??!! rolleyes

 
Maispwi 2017-12-24 16:32:00 

In reply to BeatDball

U expect to have proper video coverage with one camera at each end of the ground? You need side one cameras and dat eh available at FC level in de Region

 
tc1 2017-12-24 16:37:13 

In reply to doosra

letpost the records of the Bim players and the muddies and see how they stacked up.Even the great Hety had a below u19 record as compare to Springer

 
doosra 2017-12-24 16:40:16 

In reply to tc1

is that why springer cant make a bajan 3rd 11?

 
TheTrail 2017-12-24 16:54:21 

Wasn't it the late Tony Cozier who once said in one of his articles that the local umpires and coaches knew Jermaine Lawson was pelting as a younger, and they had a chance to correct his action, but instead, they did nothing about it?

We knew the outcome of that fiasco against Bangladesh.
Overs:------6.5------wickets----6-----Runs----3

What also triggered it was when the WI played Australia in 2003. Those Aussies weren't going to take that pelting lying down.

7 for 78

Did the local coaches destroy Lawson's bowling career?

 
spider 2017-12-24 17:20:12 

In reply to TheTrail

Attempts were made to correct Lawson's action, though more probably should have been done. His action was under scrutiny from school days. After remedial work at one point his action seemed ok though his pace wasn't so hot. But then the pace went up again and you could see the deterioration in his action.

 
spider 2017-12-24 17:23:28 

In reply to TheTrail

My feeling is that it is extremely difficult to change the action you grew up with and remain as effective. Not sure I've ever seen it done.

 
WICFan 2017-12-24 17:27:37 

No surprise, it was a matter of time. Hopefully this doesn't ruin his career.

 
tc1 2017-12-24 20:30:04 

In reply to doosra

Thanks, for confirming Bim 3rd team, u see Springer ain't get out yet in dung
Heap

 
mikelegend 2017-12-24 20:40:10 

I’ve been chastised from the beginning of time on this MB, for relaying my observations of the similarity of Beaton and the great Dale Steyn. To me they appear IDENTICAL when SOMETIMES chucking the short deliveries and SOMETIMES when striving for extra pace. I was told by the “experts” back then, that for STEYN it was simply all the wrist. Steyn was subsequently tested if I recall correctly. He was cleared, because to me he simply didn’t go for extra pace during testing. Let’s see what happens with Beaton. I expect the same.

 
goofballs 2017-12-24 20:53:44 

Typical WI culture?
If you can't beat dem, pelt dem down, shoot dem down or whatever else!

Sad!
If a bowling coach cannot recognize pelting, he should be nowhere near a ball field.
Same with umpires who could at least tell the local back street club administrators, if they exist or willing to get off their backsides and do something about it, in the interest of cricket.

Many nurses don't know how to accurately check blood pressure anymore as they just press the button form the electronic gadget to do it. Gadgets malfunction a lot and also need calibrating.
I was thinking cricket umpires lost practice in recognizing or calling no balls or are just part of the corrupt, primitive culture till I read this from Maispwi:

Umpires [b]cannot call anybody at de FC level and above anymore.
[/b]
The protocol is to report the bowler for a suspect action which must be accompanied with video of the suspected deliveries.

 
jacksparrow 2017-12-24 20:56:32 

I saw it clearly in the first ODI abd knew it was a matter of time. Suspected before but the footage was not clear. Thats it for him.

 
goofballs 2017-12-24 21:01:01 

In reply to jacksparrow
I am no expert but the other newcomer medium pacer looked very bad also.

 
Norm 2017-12-24 21:40:14 

Not surprising. I watched the match and felt Beaton chucked a few in between - even getting a wicket with a chucked delivery. I wouldn't say that Beaton's chucking is blatant, however, as was Jermaine Lawson's, for example.

By the same token, I am pretty sure I have seen that Aus lefty chuck a few too, but he never seems to be called.

Anyway, Beaton seems capable of bowling well without chucking. So he may yet survive this.

 
jacksparrow 2017-12-24 22:01:16 

In reply to goofballs

Who Cotttrel? Nope he legit.

 
goofballs 2017-12-24 22:11:50 

In reply to jacksparrow
Williams? I don't have him in my fantasy team, so I didn't study him. razz
I love Cottrell.

 
aliaskid13 2017-12-25 11:07:37 

All this fake outrage is too funny to watch. Of course he get call for a suspect action. His action is ragged as fuq. And it's ALWAYS been that way. And if it looks suspect to the naked eye it's well past the 15 degree limit. Btw, save some of this outrage for when they call Kesrick. Cause his action worse than Beaton. What saving him is he don't have the same kind of pace. But if he ever pick up a bag of wickets he goose cook.

 
aliaskid13 2017-12-25 11:12:55 

In reply to Norm

By the same token, I am pretty sure I have seen that Aus lefty chuck a few too, but he never seems to be called.


You are definitely paying attention. Mitchell Starc is definitely throwing more now. He used to only chuck a few, but now he fling nearly everything. Let's see how long it go on before something is said. My guess is it will happen on his next tour to India.

 
BeatDball 2017-12-25 11:29:53 

In reply to aliaskid13 When the actual match is going...why d fact don't alyuh speak out??

evil

 
aliaskid13 2017-12-25 11:44:48 

In reply to BeatDball

So...you couldn't see that for yourself? Why you think it took them so long to bring him into the senior team? Beaton been one of our brightest young prospects since he started playing. But the problem is, his action is ragged. It was inevitable. I just hope that his action is below the 15 degree limit and he can continue to play because I think he has the goods to become one of our best bowlers. He has the talent and he has the brain. I don't want him to turn into another heart breaking story like Jermaine Lawson.

 
spider 2017-12-25 12:04:30 

In reply to aliaskid13

Start will not be called for one simple reason. His action is clean.

 
aliaskid13 2017-12-25 13:14:05 

In reply to spider

Starc will not be called for one simple reason. He's Australian.


There, I fixed it for you.

 
goofballs 2017-12-25 14:32:00 

In reply to jacksparrow
KOK Williams.
He bowled 5 overs for 18 runs and 1 wkt and was pulled.

 
Khaga 2017-12-25 14:34:54 

Larrasshole awfully quiet..Beaton must be his quota pick..

 
anthonyp 2017-12-25 15:06:14 

In reply to goofballs

Williams flinging long now.. he's just a medium pacer and hardly takes wicket so I guess he safe for now..

 
goofballs 2017-12-25 15:24:59 

In reply to anthonyp
First time seeing him.
Shameless WI Admins from captain, coach, umpire, selectors, management.
Represents what we are? Depraved, if you can't win pelt dem down, shoot dem?
If kids think their action is ok, or is ok to pelt, or don't know what a free hit is, can't totally blame them as much as the people whose job description is the governance of cricket in the region.

 
spider 2017-12-25 16:15:47 

In reply to aliaskid13

Nonsense. So which other countries have been exempted?

 
Maispwi 2017-12-25 16:41:05 

It real surprising dat so many Guyanese wait till Beaton get reported to claim dat dey suspected his action was suspicious. And some ah dem who were making a case for his selection now blaming coaches

 
aliaskid13 2017-12-25 16:52:48 

In reply to spider

So you think they going to report Starc in Aus? Did they report Brett Lee in Aus? Anyways, like I said, Starc used to throw a few. Nowadays he fling dung nearly every delivery. Nobody is going to call him in Aus. And the English wouldn't dare mention it because it would make them look like a bunch of cry baby sissies.

 
spider 2017-12-25 22:44:31 

In reply to aliaskid13

So how does that work? Every neutral umpire that umpires in Australia conspire with CA to not report Australian bowlers they may think have suspicious actions?

 
granite 2017-12-26 05:38:22 

In reply to Khaga
When I first heard people question his action on this MB,and that was from Caribbean posters I started to look closer,it looked suspect but I couldn't say for sure.Why was WestDem so quiet about Beaton but always reaady to pelt stones at Narine.Come WD "talk nah".

lol lol lol