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Kamala Has Been Tough On Black People, Not Crime
Walco
2019-01-27 22:02:04
As someone from the Bay Area and living in Oakland, I am constantly reminded of her history of locking up Black people in the Bay Area. Her track record consists of terrorizing Black communities through the prison industrial complex and she has consistently shown herself to be an enemy to the masses of Black people.
Kamala Harris Has Been Tough On Black People, Not Crime
Looks like Kamala will have some "splaining" to do
Dukes
2019-01-27 22:32:54
In reply to Walco
I operate under the political belief that there are no good presidents. Presidents are just figureheads for the white supremacist settler colonial state
Another armchair revolutionary!!!!
I am sure this chap thinks that Nelson Mandela and Barack Obama are sell outs.
People like him refuse to vote for anybody and idiots follow them and we end up with Trump in power
Dukes
2019-01-27 22:34:23
In reply to Walco
You got some splaining to do as to why you think supporting this idiot helps black people.
FuzzyWuzzy
2019-01-27 23:24:56
In reply to Dukes
Another armchair revolutionary!!!!
I am sure this chap thinks that Nelson Mandela and Barack Obama are sell outs.
People like him refuse to vote for anybody and idiots follow them and we end up with Trump in power
The truth!
Khaga
2019-01-28 03:32:52
Kamala has shown she is electable and that she can handle the office,instead of playing the victim card. Go Kamala! West Indian Americans of all hues must embrace her!
Walco
2019-01-28 04:53:21
In reply to Dukes
Since when does posting an article suggest support for the views expressed therein? I almost did not post it because of the second sentence you posted, but the article contains certain "facts" that can be problematic for Kamala with the Democratic base.
Whether it was declining to advocate for legalization of marijuana in California, in which Black people are arrested at the highest rate. Or her failure to support body cameras for the police while simultaneously opposing legislation that would require her office to independently investigate police shootings ... She even defended the 3 strikes law, in which Black people are incarcerated at a rate 12 times higher than whites.
Kamala even advocated that an innocent Black man named Kevin Cooper, who was a death row inmate and had a trial that was rooted in overt racism and corruption, be executed. She advocated for this even though Kevin had DNA evidence that proved his innocence yet Kamala Harris opposed it until the New York Times exposed the case.
For instance, she said “the idea that we incarcerate people to have indentured servitude is one of the worst possible perceptions…I feel very strongly about that. It evokes images of chain gangs.” Despite making the connection between prison labor and chain gangs —she “pushed back against a federal order to expand an early parole program, arguing that it would deplete their stock of prison labor, especially inmates who fight wildfires”. These inmates make a dollar an hour, ...
Kamala also apparently supports the death penalty--I say apparently because this claim is disputed in one of the comments at the bottom of the article. These are not traditional positions of the Democratic base that Kamala will be courting. Surely you are not suggesting that she will be allowed to skate without splaining these positions if she has in fact held and continues to hold them.
Walco
2019-01-28 05:01:10
In reply to Dukes
I am sure this chap thinks that Nelson Mandela and Barack Obama are sell outs.
People like him refuse to vote for anybody and idiots follow them and we end up with Trump in power
I am very familiar with these types who do not vote or vote for the Ralph Naders or Jill Steins of the world. I found it interesting that he invoked MLK in order to criticize Kamala because he would have probably criticized MLK as a sellout relative to Malcom X and the Black Panthers if he were alive back then.
Khaga
2019-01-28 05:09:56
In reply to Walco
Kamala also apparently supports the death penalty
She has said she is personally opposed to it,but was implementing what's in the system as AG.
Walco
2019-01-28 05:15:49
In reply to Khaga
SAN FRANCISCO -- Attorney General Kamala D. Harris today issued the following statement on the decision to appeal the U.S. Central District of California court's ruling on the state’s death penalty. The court found that California’s death penalty is unconstitutional on the grounds that it takes too long for courts to consider and rule on defendants’ challenges to their convictions and sentences.
"I am appealing the court's decision because it is not supported by the law, and it undermines important protections that our courts provide to defendants. This flawed ruling requires appellate review."
I trying to figure out which important protections that decision ruling the death penalty unconstitutional could undermine, but I guess that press release leaves some wiggle room. By the way, I am against the death penalty in all cases except where a member of my family is the victim.
Walco
2019-01-28 05:22:53
This from one of the comments:
Kamala is NOT, I repeat NOT A BLACK AMERICAN. She is Indian and Jamaican! Just STOP!!!
So a Native American-Jamaican joined a Black American sorority at Howard University?
Headley
2019-01-28 08:13:18
In reply to Walco
Indian meaning from India (note Kamala) - not native American.
Headley
2019-01-28 08:15:14
In reply to Dukes
Walco means well. He is passing on some views of his 'revolutionary' colleagues. He has done it before. 
Dukes
2019-01-28 08:43:38
In reply to Headley
I agree that Walco is good people.
I am just tired of these arm chair revolutionaries like this author who make their living spouting crap. They do not help black people and in fact retard their progress by encouraging other black folks to not vote.
problemjay
2019-01-28 09:00:31
She is just another Dem politician who used and abused her minority constituents using the race card to her advantage. There is really no difference to her political story than other Dems who did and do the same
StumpCam
2019-01-28 09:46:05
Walco
2019-01-28 10:00:07
In reply to Headley
I actually did not think i might be viewed as supporting the AfroPunk point of view until Dukes asked me to do some splaining myself. Then I remembered how brother Commie used to post articles from InfoWars and Brietbart during 2016 while being ambiguous about whether he shared the views
Truth be told, I will be with "Her" again if she runs ...
Walco
2019-01-28 10:16:12
In reply to StumpCam
The thing about having Trump as President is that that absolutely nothing is disqualifying anymore. Not that the events detailed in that story should disqualify anyone ...
Oilah
2019-01-28 11:42:56
Kamala was very clear pon tv recently that she is against the death penalty and she was very clear as to why.
Walco
2019-01-28 11:54:12
In reply to Oilah
Perhaps her position has evolved. Nothing wrong with that
nick2020
2019-01-28 12:00:03
In reply to Walco
You ever get the feeling that minorites have to show how fair they are by treating minorities unfairly?
Headley
2019-01-28 12:52:52
In reply to Dukes
I understand your unease with the corrosive impact of those hothouse warriors. It reminds me that your countryman Larr was among a group of such MB revolutionaries who in 2012 were convinced that Obama's efforts in the cause of black people were insufficient.
RemainsUnknown
2019-01-28 16:00:02
In reply to StumpCam
Meanwhile
Brown appointed Harris to the California Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board and then to the Medical Assistance Commission – positions that paid her more than $400,000 over five years, according to SF Weekly. Brown also gave Harris a BMW.
"And I certainly helped with her first race for district attorney in San Francisco," he said in his Chronicle letter Saturday..
"I have also helped the careers of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Gov. Gavin Newsom, Sen. Dianne Feinstein and a host of other politicians," he added.
Brown sounds like he was using his
Willie all over the place.....
RemainsUnknown
2019-01-28 16:01:54
In reply to Walco
The thing about having Trump as President is that that absolutely nothing is disqualifying anymore. Not that the events detailed in that story should disqualify anyone ...
Well... that's outrageous... but ok.......
Walco
2019-01-28 16:54:01
In reply to nick2020
You ever get the feeling that minorities have to show how fair they are by treating minorities unfairly?
Interesting point that I had not given much thought to previously. I have always thought that some women politicians feel they have to be tough on crime or be warmongers in order to get street cred.
Walco
2019-01-28 16:55:34
In reply to Headley
Indian meaning from India (note Kamala) - not native American.
Oh boy. Can you imagine how insufferable bravos will become if a dougla becomes President of the USA?
Headley
2019-01-28 17:19:23
In reply to Walco
Positive impact. More dougla sexcitement pics. 
nitro
2019-01-28 17:54:28
In reply to Walco
If you do the crime, you do the time. Great job Ms Harris.
Walco
2019-01-28 23:40:19
In reply to nitro
The only problem is that black people generally do more time than whites for the same crimes ...
XDFIX
2019-01-29 08:11:06
I wouldn't be pussywhipped if Harris wins the nomination but I am giving Warren my vote of confidence
Trinidave
2019-01-29 12:16:18
In reply to Dukes
You got some splaining to do as to why you think supporting this idiot helps black people
The article is correct. TriniD loves her politically, and the policies that she advocates. BUT, she was hard on BLACK people. That's a fact. People have no idea how entrenched racial injustice is in the legal system. Personally, TriniD seen many lives destroyed by prosecutors like Kamala who turn a blind eye to corrupt people under their charge. TriniD has seen did wid Black prosecutors, who use lies, false information, and who hide exculpatory evidence. That shatters lives.
There is factual information regarding Kamala's record. She did it as a prosecutor. She hurt a lot of Black people in the process. Innocent Black people.
Can Kamala get over this? Of course she can. She is brilliant and as TriniD says, he likes her political policies. But don't gloss-over that terrible record as a prosecutor and mask it as being tough on crime.
Trinidave
2019-01-29 19:41:07
birdseye
2019-01-29 20:34:04
In reply to Trinidave
Kamala as the product of a Jamaican and an Indian and knowing the disciplinarian culture of both her parents – do you think this may have played a part in her heavy handed prosecutorial bent? ---- I think that may be a plausible contributor -----I know many older generation West Indians always having issues with black Americans cultural behavior
Trinidave
2019-01-29 23:10:55
In reply to birdseye
-I know many older generation West Indians always having issues with black Americans cultural behavior
This is true. But I don't think so. It is one thing to be heavy-handed. It's another to use dirty evidence etc. That's just wrong. But it is extremely common in the US justice system. And when you think that the US Justice system is the main vehicle for disenfranchising Black folk, it's sad to think that Kamala was a cog in that wheel.
birdseye
2019-01-29 23:28:44
In reply to Trinidave
It's another to use dirty evidence etc. That's just wrong.
I haven’t followed her – she was not someone on my radar until a few years. For any prosecutor to use dirty evidence is evil – but for a black prosecutor to knowingly use dirty evidence against anyone --- that’s bordering on unforgivable for me --- i will have to see the context -------
Walco
2019-01-30 03:11:23
In reply to birdseye
To be fair, the article does not contain any allegation that Kamala knowingly used dirty evidence against anyone. I think Trinidave's statement at most is that as a prosecutor she necessarily would have turned a blind eye to the wrongdoing of people under her charge because of widespread corruption in the criminal justice system. The article's claims that Kamala opposed requiring police to wear body cameras and opposed legislation that would require her office to independently investigate police shootings would be consistent with such an argument.
Of course, her positions on those issues would be badges of honor if she were a politician not courting the black vote.
Trinidave
2019-01-30 07:52:12
In reply to Walco
I think Trinidave's statement at most is that as a prosecutor she necessarily would have turned a blind eye to the wrongdoing of people under her charge because of widespread corruption in the criminal justice system
Yup. Not her, but those under her charge. But I do know that a sitting judge warned Kamala about her office and she did nothing. There was series of cases involving bad evidence from a crime lab. Her office used illegally obtained evidence. She defended a prosecutor who lied, and who she knew lied in a criminal case. These lies disproportionately affect Black folk. She always defended the wrong side.
Right now in Baltimore, the State Attorney Marilyn Mosby announced Tuesday her office would cease prosecuting people for possessing marijuana regardless of the quantity or the person’s criminal history. She mentions how this disproportionately affects and criminalizes Black people. I believe Mosby would get serious backlash and probably reprimanded for this, but my point is, she has a job similar to what Kamala had, and it is possible to make stands for social justice. Kamala did not. She had opportunities to correct wrongdoing in her office, she did not. She had opportunity to say something, she did not.
Walco
2019-01-30 12:11:56
In reply to Trinidave
Boy TriniDave I don't know which is worse--personally using dirty evidence or defending and covering up for those who use dirty evidence. The latter certainly has a greater impact than the former ...
Trinidave
2019-01-30 14:24:36
In reply to Walco
Boy TriniDave I don't know which is worse--personally using dirty evidence or defending and covering up for those who use dirty evidence. The latter certainly has a greater impact than the former ...
Win at any cost. I'm guessing that was her mentality, even when it screws people over and they do not get a fair shot at justice.
On the other hand, there are many political advantages to the "win at any cost" mentality.
Walco
2019-01-30 16:20:39
In reply to Trinidave
Unbridled ambition is a hell of a thing. Can't hold it against her though. I would be a hypocrite if I did that after supporting Hillary. Plus lots of men have done what she did and worse and gone on to be President. The slave-owner Presidents come to mind, and of course, Individual One
