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HEADLINE: Gabriel charged by ICC after Root altercation
CaribbeanCricket.com
Feb 12, 2019, 11:20:21 AM
West Indies fast-bowler Shannon Gabriel has been charged by the ICC in relation to an incident on day three of the third Test in St Lucia.
After an exchange with Gabriel while he was batting, England captain Joe Root was overheard on the stump microphone saying: "Don't use it as an insult. There's nothing wrong with being gay." The video clip has been doing the rounds on social media since although what had drawn that response from Root was not picked up by the stump microphone.
It had initially appeared that the umpires had dealt with the issue at the time - West Indies captain Kraigg Brathwaite swiftly moved Gabriel away from Root after the exchange - and match referee Jeff Crowe was thought to be satisfied that it had been dealt with.
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mitch44
Feb 12, 2019, 11:21:01 AM
I think Root won that exchange.
Banner
Feb 12, 2019, 11:24:48 AM
In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com
Big dunce homophobic skunt.
Why mention it? Root married. Weird thing to say when on the receiving end of a master class from root. Call him ugly, lucky, a skunt even. But gay?? Makes no sense. Shows a complete lack of class.
Emir
Feb 12, 2019, 11:27:01 AM
Do any of us know what Gabriel said?
In addition, there are grounds for strong appeal here and I hope CWI fight for Gabriel.
We don't want Gabriel or any of our players getting penalized for cultural differences. The LGBTQI movement in both societies are very different and West Indian jokes with its picong is different from the British.
This is going to be very interesting to see if CWI support our players or leave them at the hands of British mores.
Oilah
Feb 12, 2019, 11:28:13 AM
The gay insult has lost a lot of its sting and acceptability
Khaga
Feb 12, 2019, 11:30:40 AM
In reply to Emir
We don't want Gabriel or any of our players getting penalized for cultural differences. The LGBTQI movement in both societies are very different and West Indian jokes with its picong is different from the British.
Ahemm..cough cough!
Banner
Feb 12, 2019, 11:31:01 AM
In reply to Emir
Suppose if root came back and called Shannon a black so and so...
Larr Pullo
Feb 12, 2019, 11:31:56 AM
So Root did rat him out...
Tryangle
Feb 12, 2019, 11:33:29 AM
In reply to Banner
^This.
If you're going to be playing on the world stage you can't do the things you'd do in your backyard. Do better.
Larr Pullo
Feb 12, 2019, 11:36:48 AM
Khaga
Feb 12, 2019, 11:38:16 AM
Would be interesting to see if Gabriel pleads guilty during the hearing with the match referee..
Banner
Feb 12, 2019, 11:38:37 AM
In reply to Larr Pullo
You think hell plead guilty to the remark?
Larr Pullo
Feb 12, 2019, 11:39:43 AM
In reply to Banner
He shouldn't!! There's no evidence of him saying anything of that nature to Root.
Dukes
Feb 12, 2019, 12:55:14 PM
In reply to Larr Pullo
Although the mics did not catch Gabriel's earlier comments, it is understood the umpires spoke to him about them at the time. No action was taken initially,
NO ONE heard Gabriel say anything.
You believe that they are going to charge him with an offense based on what Root responded with?
Stop chat nonsense.You have more sense than that.
positiveg
Feb 12, 2019, 12:58:45 PM
In reply to Larr Pullo
That's what I been saying all along. What did Gabriel say. We always got these people telling us how to react.
Doubt he would of said anything if he was in say Australia.
Hell anyone call me gay wouldn't get a response from me, well maybe ask you Modda
doosra
Feb 12, 2019, 1:29:46 PM
Ewart
Feb 12, 2019, 4:35:49 PM
In reply to Larr Pullo
Whatever he said, I am sure he did not use the word "gay".
It would have been something else. Something that Root understood.
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Norm
Feb 12, 2019, 5:33:05 PM
CWI need to sign up Gabriel in Sunday School. Fella always getting into trouble on the field. Stares, elbows, insults, etc. Never a dull moment with him around!
Wally-1
Feb 12, 2019, 5:51:50 PM
In reply to Ewart
like b man?
Now the article didnt say Campbell or Thomas.
Casper
Feb 12, 2019, 9:14:40 PM
I yearn for the days, when players had a gay time having a good sledge
Chrissy
Feb 12, 2019, 11:16:42 PM
I remember when folks here had no problem with McGrath using it against Sarwan. Some (including the OZ PM) went after Ronnie for his response.
mikesiva
Feb 12, 2019, 11:35:18 PM
In reply to Wally-1
"Battyman" is a very common insult used in England these days....
When Stokes got into his brawl with two English thugs in Bristol, it was after they'd called a couple of gay guys "battyman".
It was alleged that Stokes also ridiculed the gay couple, but the prosecution were unable to prove that.
More here
'Shannon Gabriel could be banned for two Tests after allegedly using the derogatory phrase 'b**** boy' during his on-field spat with Joe Root.'
Logic
Feb 13, 2019, 1:24:12 AM
Appears that Root wanted to put the alleged intended insult on record. His response was strangely stilted and detailed. Seemed unnatural.
Tryangle
Feb 13, 2019, 3:24:56 AM
In reply to Logic
The umpires likely would have heard the initial exchange regardless of what the stump mic caught or whatever Root said to the media. Don't see how Root is in any way or form a culprit in this particular situation.
Emir
Feb 13, 2019, 3:30:50 AM
In reply to Chrissy
I remember when folks here had no problem with McGrath using it against Sarwan. Some (including the OZ PM) went after Ronnie for his response.
Come on now, it seems you didn't get the memo: They decide what is acceptable and whatever they do, it is fine.
Let us see if the venal CWI is going to fight for Gabriel.
They cannot use British mores against a WI player in the WI for an alleged crime that is not a social crime in the WI.
Colonialism is over.
They have already bossed the CWI in deciding what venues they wanted, the tour dates and all the other logistics was decided by them.
Tryangle
Feb 13, 2019, 3:44:33 AM
In reply to Emir
But this isn't about what's acceptable language in the WI, ICC has their own mandates as a global sporting body, which covers speech that's deemed sexist, homophobic, racist, etc.
If CWI is going to appeal on Gabriel's behalf, it can't be on "we say it all the time". It has to be, as the unnamed WI player suggested to DailyMail, along the lines of misinterpretation, eg "little man".
Emir
Feb 13, 2019, 4:02:35 AM
In reply to Tryangle
ICC has their own mandates as a global sporting body, which covers speech that's deemed sexist, homophobic, racist, etc.
And "their own" is Euro-centric or in this case it follows British mores (it not just cricket- at global bodies these nations have been pushing the rest of the world to adopt their standards)
In this case, it is not clear cut what was said and how it was interpreted.
If CWI is going to appeal on Gabriel's behalf, it can't be on "we say it all the time".
Nobody is making this claim.
Pacy
Feb 13, 2019, 5:10:12 AM
Gabriel suspended for 4 ODIs... is swearing at someone such a grave mistake? I had seen many verbal altercations but do not remember someone getting 4 match suspension
Banner
Feb 13, 2019, 5:11:53 AM
In reply to Pacy
Dont call him a batty man then. He one ignorant Dumb skunt.
Khaga
Feb 13, 2019, 5:22:13 AM
Gabriel, who pleaded guilty to the offence, was fined 75% of his match fee and received three demerit points, pushing him over the threshold for a ban.
Gabriel was charged with a Level Two offence under article 2.13 of the ICC's Code of Conduct, covering "personal abuse". There was no formal hearing with the match referee, Jeff Crowe, after he accepted the charge.
Pacy
Feb 13, 2019, 5:24:41 AM
In reply to Banner
So that is the word that attracts 4 match ban. Just a month back a clear racist statement recorded attracted a 2 ODI ban. Lovely
Maispwi
Feb 13, 2019, 5:36:58 AM
In the interest of transparency and to avoid all the conspiracy theories, or at least some, the ICC shud publish player demerit points in the same way dey do player rankings. In that way everyone will know how close to de edge de players are
Banner
Feb 13, 2019, 5:39:35 AM
In reply to Pacy
How about not just saying it. How about that.
Kay
Feb 13, 2019, 5:52:29 AM
In reply to Pacy
So that is the ‘word’ that attracts 4 match ban. Just a month back a clear racist statement recorded attracted a 2 ODI ban. Lovely
In arriving at just punishment a judge does not only look at the offence, they take other things like remorse, first offender or repeat offender into consideration. Maybe the racist guy who got a 2 ODI ban was a firstie ...
Tryangle
Feb 13, 2019, 7:58:45 AM
I do agree it may be interesting to see in depth the comparison with that fella with the racist remark, and Kay likely already has the explanation regarding accumulated points, etc.
Emir I don't disagree with it leaning to a Euro-centric world view. That is where the money and influence has historically been. If a global sport emerges where the base of power is that of Asia or Africa or Latin America maybe there will be player conduct policies that differ from other sports.
bobby
Feb 13, 2019, 8:04:38 AM
In reply to Pacy
Please read the Press Release. He did not get a suspension or 4 ODIs for this infraction alone. He had previous infractions.
Chrissy
Feb 13, 2019, 8:30:14 AM
In reply to Emir
That simple bro
openning
Feb 13, 2019, 8:39:36 AM
In reply to Chrissy
On Wednesday, the 30-year-old Gabriel accepted the charge brought by the International Cricket Council.
The charge means Gabriel has accrued eight demerit points -- cricket's disciplinary penalty system -- in a two-year period, leading to a four-match one-day international ban.
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