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Is Trinidad Govt as poor as it appears?

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 00:43:49 

Don't really care about party politics, but for a country with plenty income, it doesn't show well for basic necessities.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 00:50:22 

In reply to Curtis

WHAT? Hoss Trinidad have free education at all levels. Which is why most young ppl coming into the work force have masters degrees, unfortunately even for relatively menial jobs. We just built a highway from San Fernando to point fortin….which was rightfully funded through the idb instead of the treasury as it was done during the 2010-2015 period. Right now Guyana has to have a bunch of Trinidadians in their energy sector because they barely have any technical capacity. Who do you think did that? Abu Bakr. And I recently saw GR asked for 100,000 skilled workers. I can guarantee you quite a few of the engineers and technicians will be from Trinidad

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 01:18:51 

In reply to Jumpstart

Bro, what about the obvious shortcomings to quality of life?

Healthcare, crime especially

.. and that's not pointing fingers at only this gov't

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 01:22:29 

In reply to Jumpstart

The boom of oil will obviously create opportunities for oil based skills.

To reference Guyana's needs and shortcomings, an oil novice, should not be a boon in T&T cap.

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 01:24:17 

Free education is a national benefit from oil revenues. I wouldn't expect less.

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-07 01:28:53 

In reply to Curtis

Yuh go ketch plenty fish with this one Bro. lol

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 01:36:46 

In reply to SnoopDog

Plenty fish inside the sea, mussee
One of dem for me

<Sanell Dempster >

Chances

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 01:47:49 

In reply to Curtis

The central government’s fiscal accounts recorded a surplus of $88 million in the first nine months of the current 2023 fiscal year, according to the Central Bank’s July 2023 Economic Bulletin.

In the Economic Bulletin, which was published yesterday, the Central Bank said the fiscal surplus for the same period in 2022, from October 1, 2021 to June 30, 2022 was $3 billion.
According to the Economic Bulletin, the general government debt grew by $925.6 million to $140.3 billion in the period October 1, 2022 to June 30, 2023.

They had 6.4 billion in the Heritage and saving fund 8 years' ago, the latest statement by the Former Governor of the Central bank show's they still have 6.6 billion in such funds left ..What happened every 7 years such should double.He claimed the Economic problems with Covid ( such lasted 3 years') they lost money ?

Now this is from the Central bank Of T&T ...Factual

T&T government debt grew by $925.6 million to $140.3 billion
Saving 6.4 Billion...


What do you think..?

Instead, there is the darkness of T&T ranked among the most violent nations in the world and still on track to meet or exceed last year’s record-breaking murder count of 605. T&T Guardian Today in Editorial Opinion

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 01:48:00 

In reply to Curtis

Healthcare……dude we were praised internationally for our handling of Covid 19. Homie, a relative of mine had major surgery on her womb in San Fernando for free last year. Secondly, oil wealth does not automatically mean streets of gold homie. I’m sure you are old enough to realize that. There many examples of virtual failed states that are massive oil producers.

On crime……brazil, Colombia and Mexico are classified, like Trinidad and Tobago as high income countries, and all three are swamped by crime and criminality.

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 01:51:15 

In reply to Jumpstart

Jumpy cut out the crap...

debate me on the above...

its from the central Bank Economic Bulletin...

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 01:52:15 

In reply to sgtdjones

Homie if you’re going to be dishonest, at least post something that could be not easily scrutinized.

. According to the Central statistical office, at the end of June 30 last year this country’s population was estimated to be 1,365,805 people.

Despite the $2.2 billion increase in the general government debt between the two fiscal years however, the Central Bank stated that the debt as a share of the country’s gross domestic product fell from 86.1 per cent to 71.5 per cent of GDP over the same period.

You know what that means. That means our debt to GDP ratio has fallen…….significantly

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 01:53:58 

In reply to Jumpstart

It decreased owing to high Natural gas prices ...its fluctuates ..so that's BS...

When Natural gas prices drops it increases ...dont believe idiot Imbert ..he full of it.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 01:55:17 

In reply to sgtdjones

Really? Hoss you really hadda be living under de biggest boulder. The IDB stated in their country report last week that the recovery of 2022 was led by the NON ENERGY SECTOR…….manufacturing etc

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 01:56:39 

In reply to Jumpstart

The central government’s fiscal accounts recorded a surplus of $88 million in the first nine months of the current 2023 fiscal year, according to the Central Bank’s July 2023 Economic Bulletin.

In the Economic Bulletin, which was published yesterday, the Central Bank said the fiscal surplus for the same period in 2022, from October 1, 2021 to June 30, 2022 was $3 billion.

According to the Economic Bulletin, the general government debt grew by $925.6 million to $140.3 billion in the period October 1, 2022 to June 30, 2023.

The above is factual ..that an economist looks at ...

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 01:58:14 

In reply to Jumpstart

Bro, Covid was something that all Caribbean countries handled well.

Right now, no shit, a Trini is here seeking medical help for child birth as the peeps at home recommended she leave because they couldn't trust or handle her situation. True.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 02:00:13 

In reply to sgtdjones

. The IDB report however emphasised that the non-energy sector pushed the country’s overall recovery.

“The services sector grew at dynamic rates through most of 2022. The unemployment rate fell almost on par with the pre-pandemic rate and commercial banks’ lending to the private sector has recovered strongly.

Yuh fighting with the IDB now lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 02:00:50 

In reply to Curtis

Any one with an iota of understanding financial documents would look at the central bank Bulletin ...nothing else..
Its the status of a country.

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 02:03:03 

In reply to Jumpstart

Do you know what the IDB is ..it has no assets, its governed by countries that support that bank.
It gives loans based on such...
I dont not trust such financials ...

Your financials are the Central bank of T&T nothing else Jumpy.

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 02:04:41 

You are a young man with enthusiasm , and does not understand Financials thoroughly.
Central bank Bulletins are factual...
T&T doesn't have any intellect that can bring it back to the black..
its glowing red and heading down a cliff.

Back to Cricket.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 02:05:35 

In reply to Curtis

. He also described as a “very good response”, T&T’s “unique” parallel healthcare system which was established in the early days of the pandemic to treat Covid-19 patients while leaving the traditional healthcare system unaffected.

I didn’t hear or see the WHO personally praise any other Caribbean country for their response to the virus. Barbados, I think but certainly not anybody else. We must be doing something right

 
Curtis 2023-09-07 02:06:29 

In reply to Jumpstart

How can you compare yourself to Brazil, Mexico and Colombia?

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 02:12:03 

In reply to sgtdjones

Hoss……..you really fighting with the IDB?

 
Barry 2023-09-07 03:30:05 

In reply to Curtis
You living Trinidad? One ah dem donkeys pulling coconut carts? You is a jennet?

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol

 
Barry 2023-09-07 03:31:32 

In reply to Curtis

Free education is a national benefit from oil revenues. I wouldn't expect less.

Jamaica don't have bauxite and marijuana?

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 03:37:38 

In reply to Curtis

Curtis. Man you really need to pick up a book sometimes. Barbados is not an oil producer and they have had free education for decades, longer than Trinidad. Guyana has almost every resource known to man and up until four years ago was classified as a low income country with the effect being that Guyana has little technical capacity as it stands now.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 03:44:29 

In reply to sgtdjones

Hoss you doh have an idea of how the IDB works. 90% of the infrastructural works done in Latin America and the Caribbean is done by the IDB. This is done through a loaning facility where the IDB grants the loan, but also has a big say in the design and contracting. They have done lots of work in Bolivia, Ecuadorvand Paraguay, South America’s three poorest economies. Now they’re agreeing to the loan is predicated Ted on the country’s financial position. Which is why they sign MOUs with Haiti but have not done much work there. Because Haiti’s economic situation is awful and has been awful for the better part of the past 100 years.

Which is why the whole talk against the rapid rail draining the treasury and our inability to afford it was rubbish because it was clear nobody knew that the project would not have been funded out of the treasury, it was going to be financed and built by the IDB, who had the funds and technical capability to deal with that project

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 15:06:19 

In reply to Jumpstart

Jumpy
I am aware of the IDB and its purpose..this is not the gist of this thread.
Look at the facts by the Central bank of T&T Economic Bulletin.

 
Halliwell 2023-09-07 15:32:35 

In reply to sgtdjones

Hoss you dog


Aye stop floundering and address the core subject of the guy’s post!

 
doosra 2023-09-07 15:39:59 

In reply to SnoopDog

Yuh go ketch plenty fish with this one Bro. lol


Barbados leff any? big grin

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 15:43:13 

In reply to Halliwell

that was spell check homie

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 15:44:55 

In reply to sgtdjones

we discussed that already. while debt has increased, its contribution to gdp has decreased significantly.

 
Barry 2023-09-07 15:54:31 

In reply to sgtdjones
Go and google IDB now

big grin

 
Halliwell 2023-09-07 16:17:54 

In reply to Jumpstart

Spell check or AI? cool

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 16:17:57 

In reply to Jumpstart

Ok Jumpy .. razz

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 16:19:26 

In reply to Halliwell

lol lol lol lol nah s spell check. it always does that when i type doh

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-07 16:23:41 

In reply to doosra

Barbados leff any?


If the Bimsters leave any it's because the flying fish is theirs to begin with, and whatever is left for our Tittie brothers is an act of pure charity and magnanimity from the Bajans. lol

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 16:33:09 

In reply to SnoopDog

Snoopy

Dem Fishes came voluntarily to Tobago waters ...dem didn't like bajan fishermen. lol

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-07 16:34:37 

In reply to sgtdjones

Dem Fishes came voluntarily to Tobago waters ...dem didn't like bajan fishermen.


And very similarly dem Trini women come voluntarily to Guyanese men...dem don't like Tittie men. lol

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-07 16:36:54 

In reply to SnoopDog

And very similarly dem Trini women come voluntarily to Guyanese men...dem don't like Tittie men.


lol lol lol lol lol lol
these hallucinations......how long have you had them?

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 16:37:03 

In reply to SnoopDog

aww come on ..did those Trini women bring back your BMW...?

Now be careful...Currently,T&T is regarded as one of the most perilous nations globally, occupying the sixth position in terms of risk assessment.
Soon my stalker will appear about something about Canada..sigh.

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 16:37:52 

In reply to Jumpstart

Jumpy
They took his Guyanese BMW... lol lol lol

I see them driving it all around Toronto with the Guyanese decal on the windshield.
razz razz razz razz

 
SnoopDog 2023-09-07 16:41:19 

In reply to sgtdjones

Now be careful...Currently,T&T is regarded as one of the most perilous nations globally, occupying the sixth position in terms of risk assessment.
Soon my stalker will appear about something about Canada..sigh.


Listen Bro. Just chook a Venezuelan flag on the top of Abu Bakr's Red House and be done with it already. lol

 
Barry 2023-09-07 16:46:19 

In reply to SnoopDog

Just chook a Venezuelan flag on the top of Abu Bakr's Red House and be done with it already.
Isn't her dead like the wicked whore?

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-07 16:58:56 

In reply to SnoopDog

well guess who shows up?...my fcking stalker..must be a full moon.twisted
Thread is destroyed..
twisted

 
Barry 2023-09-07 19:34:42 

In reply to sgtdjones

So you mean I can’t talk to snoopdog although I know he is one of your handles. Please don’t retire him yet- I want to serve him some pipe




In reply to SnoopDog

well guess who shows up?...my fcking stalker..must be a full moon.twisted
Thread is destroyed..


cool

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-08 15:08:59 

In reply to Curtis

Right now, no shit, a Trini is here seeking medical help for child birth as the peeps at home recommended she leave because they couldn't trust or handle her situation. True.

hoss you does get your sources from the living dead or a crazy person who is hallucinating that he's living in TT
Ministry of Health (MoH) issued a statemeont on Monday noting that the country registered less than six deaths per 1,000 live births in 2021. This, as the UN Sustainable Development Goal (SDG) 2030 sets the neonatal mortality target to at least 12 deaths per 1,000 live births

All UN Member States adopted the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development in 2015 and according to the MoH, Trinidad and Tobago achieved the international benchmark from inception.

"Trinidad and Tobago’s 2021 newborn death rate is the lowest ever recorded for the country and was achieved despite the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic," the release noted.

Link Text

Curtis.....i advise you to do two things.......read a little for once, then get help

 
Curtis 2023-09-08 15:47:25 

In reply to Jumpstart

Tell that to the person here right now. You think I making this up?
Going back right after too.

I should show dem the stats.

The problem with truth it's always seen thru, maybe a political lens. Politics are irrelevant when water shut off, high murder rate and not always great medical care FOR ALL.

All that is on the government, whether PNM, UNC or other.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-08 15:55:03 

In reply to Curtis

hoss now yuh saying the WHO is an arm of the TT foreign service? lol lol lol lol lol lol
secondly, we've had a high murder rate since the early 2000s. And that has mostly to do with the fact that trinidad is a transshipment point for drugs destined for north America. It has been so since the days of prohibition. then the contraband was alchohol, now its marijuana and cocaine. secondly, crime is largely limited to a few areas, in general. There are almost no murders in places like cedros, point fortin, rio claro, fyzabad, san fernando, gasparillo etc. Why, because in general there are strong, stable families.

There is a lot of crime in the east west corridor for the exact opposite reason. Broken families, mothers having 6 and 7 children on low salaries and a history of drug lords stretching from the 80s to present. And all that could be traced to the troubles of the 1980s when unemployment skyrocketed and many people genuinely became poor. What is noteworthy is that crime did not explode in the 1980s, when trinidad was at its poorest. Which goes back to culture and how it informs the values and norms of a society. The trend is very different now that we are entrenched in foreign cultures that seem to have no problem promoting gangsterism and criminality. You couple that with a seemingly endless number of broken families without a strong male influence and you have what we have today. Many people, through hard work and education have lifted themselves from those circumstances which is why Trinidad has the best standard of living in the english speaking caribbean. A few people did not, did nothing with their lives and now are involved in crime and criminality. I do not believe the government has the responsibility to constantly foot the bill when you make bad decisions. they are already giving you free and subsidized education, nursery to tertiary already. i think that is more than enough

 
googley 2023-09-08 16:09:23 

In reply to SnoopDog

Its the BG plantain! lol lol

 
Barry 2023-09-08 17:00:29 

In reply to googley

Burro plaintains… big grin

 
Curtis 2023-09-08 17:58:52 

In reply to Jumpstart

Yes, I understand the demographics.

Ok, so I take it then that the Government is not to be blamed, and that those that fall by the wayside only have themselves to blame.

That was my question originally.

 
Barry 2023-09-08 18:25:34 

In reply to Curtis
what sh!t you talking?

confused