This thing about disrespecting Guyana because you played the reserves. So what did India do when they sent a team? People here were more concerned with evaluating patriotism among groups but said nothing about the sea of red in the matches to follow. There is nothing wrong in making strong judgments but when you can’t smell your own piss that becomes a frightening thing. Or when you pretend neutrality but are as coloured as the impure white of the KKK that becomes sad. No one disrespecting Guyana. They played the bench and tried to give the great country the top position- Guyana tried hard to lose…. 
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2023-09-17 11:03:44
2023-09-17 11:41:12
In reply to Barry
I think any home crowd of lickit fans would enjoy a beatdung
The crowd got exactly what they came expecting.
What’s the problem?
Lifetime whingers some of these? Disrespecting the good Guyanese posters around here
2023-09-17 11:52:21
In reply to Barry
Ask the Warrior fans about Keemo.
Look, the vast majority of those fans went there to party - they don’t know crap about cricket. Their side won. Nothing else matters.
2023-09-17 12:25:36
In reply to Chrissy
Exactly. Most of the people who attend CPL games are there for the alcohol, music and atmosphere. They do not know anything about the game and its nuances. When you hear them talk in interviews or read them on social media, you also quickly realise that they have no sense.
So don't get stressed.
2023-09-17 12:32:54
I get beat down… interesting comments… I think it’s entertainment AND cricket though…. Let’s see future matchups… 
2023-09-17 12:44:05
Exactly. Most of the people who attend CPL games are there for the alcohol, music and atmosphere. They do not know anything about the game and its nuances. When you hear them talk in interviews or read them on social media, you also quickly realise that they have no sense.
Amen!!!!
In reply to bobby
2023-09-17 14:57:37
There are numerous complaints about small spectator turnout to cricket games in the WI. The CPL have developed a solid business model and filling seats. Does not matter what degree of cricket knowledge spectators possess. They are showing up to the games. They are being entertained and enjoying themselves.
2023-09-17 15:38:07
In reply to Overthrow
The armchair critics and internet warriors are most definitely unhappy!!!!! 
2023-09-17 15:46:34
Then the so called cognoscenti continue to turn their noses up at those who actually pay $$ to come out and support and bawl they know nothing about cricket.while they themselves haven’t paid to go watch a game LiVE in eons 
2023-09-17 15:53:54
When peeps from around the region used to fill the party stand at Antigua Recreation Ground and enjoy Chicki’s HIFI while test matches we’re going on, there was zero question of the cricketing knowledge of those patrons.
Similarly when fans populated the Trini Posse stand for tests and ODI’s at QPO……same people who so disdainful of CPL fans now were heralding the atmosphere at jr grounds etc. Not a question about cricket knowledge than.
As another of their group recently commented…..wurl nuh level
2023-09-17 16:05:32
In reply to imusic
Good point the Trini posse peeps combine entertainment with knowledge- indeed some of them actually travel to matches outside the region…
2023-09-17 16:26:50
In reply to imusic
Not me
Since I small I question the motives of the trini ‘posey’
2023-09-17 16:28:53
In reply to Halliwell
2023-09-17 16:41:05
In reply to Halliwell
And why is that?
2023-09-17 16:46:49
In reply to Barry
It was more lime and being seen than digesting the cricket (Test and ODI back then)
It was drink and dance and watch each other then cheer for personalities
That was more like Indian style audiences, silence for an opposition hundred but cheer a Tendulkar single
Kinda came across like the lickit crowd with their posters today
That’s what I saw as a teen that’s all
2023-09-17 16:47:28
In reply to sgtdjones
I like Dr Camacho. I know those who don’t brush their teeth have baggage. Listen and comment on his views, sir
Q. Some are of the opinion that the increasing popularity and appeal of T20 cricket is having a negative effect on test cricket (e.g. players more attracted to T20 for financial reasons). What are your thoughts on this?
A. There is no doubt that the appeal and excitement of T20 has attracted more new fans to the game, and as a result the sponsors’ money has followed. Hence there are larger rewards for the players in this format of the game. Test cricket is a victim of the success of the shorter format. The result being more players are attracted to this format than the longer traditional version of the game. True cricket connoisseurs love their Test cricket. However, in most parts of the cricket world, these numbers are dwindling. Economics is shaping the future of the game, as the most talented players will follow the money. Only the Big 3––England, India and Australia––will be wealthy enough to pay their Test cricketers a base salary, to keep them playing that format for their country. Test cricket faces an uncertain future, though tradition will keep it going for now. T20 cricket will likely become the dominant format in the future.
A. There is no doubt that the appeal and excitement of T20 has attracted more new fans to the game, and as a result the sponsors’ money has followed. Hence there are larger rewards for the players in this format of the game. Test cricket is a victim of the success of the shorter format. The result being more players are attracted to this format than the longer traditional version of the game. True cricket connoisseurs love their Test cricket. However, in most parts of the cricket world, these numbers are dwindling. Economics is shaping the future of the game, as the most talented players will follow the money. Only the Big 3––England, India and Australia––will be wealthy enough to pay their Test cricketers a base salary, to keep them playing that format for their country. Test cricket faces an uncertain future, though tradition will keep it going for now. T20 cricket will likely become the dominant format in the future.
2023-09-17 16:49:02
In reply to Halliwell
Ok without blood like Camacho and friends your West Indian cricket will die. Nothing wrong having fun… 
British fans know how to party. Are you an old colonial?
Why do you judge the natives harshly? You know that fatman does go to hockey to celebrate with his Barbies…
2023-09-17 16:52:49
In reply to Barry
You’re going to attack me for having an opinion?
Look at the make up of the early ‘group’ that called themselves the trini posse
Then they charge money for others to ‘join’
If you in it you’d like it; I wasn’t going to sign up for that because I didnt want to be told HOW to watch cricket at QPO
2023-09-17 17:03:41
In reply to Halliwell
No brother, I just think it’s superficial and judgmental- you know what I mean?
2023-09-17 17:06:24
In reply to Halliwell
They are entrepreneurs and like to control things- they have human agency—-nothing wrong with privilege- I understand you are probably rural rootsy
Look at the make up of the early ‘group’ that called themselves the trini posse
Then they charge money for others to ‘join’
Then they charge money for others to ‘join’
2023-09-17 18:08:40
In reply to Halliwell
The issue is...if it can be called that is that you can't tell people what they must like.
Its like roots reggae vs dancehall or kaiso vs soca.
Hopefully there is capacity and supply for everyone's personal taste bruh.
But no point in turning up noses at the 'unwashed masses'. It doesnt work..and they are indeed the 'masses'.
2023-09-17 18:36:26
In reply to Cheeks
Good point about masses
You think CPL cares? Damn right they care
You know who else cares? Those that in charge of disbursing $$ in the form of TV rights
They NOT INTERESTED in empty or even half empty stadia
Which means, test cricket as it currently exists in the West Indies is DEAD. Outside of possibly Dominica & Barbados when Exngland plays there (filled with English holiday goers)….and by the way, nobody here questions their cricket knowledge, even though most of them just there for sun, sand, sea, and a good time with the cricket being incidental.
West Indian fans not stupid. They want to see good competitive cricket and above all….STARS.
Which makes the statement “we don’t want star players….we want a start team (sic) among the most asinine statements ever issued by a public official
In any arena.
When GAW fans turn out, they want “their team” to win…..but most of all they coming out for Hety, and Paul, and Ayub, Shepherd, and Motie. Those are their “stars”
Whenever and wherever Pollard, Bravo, Narine, Russell Pooran and Hosein play, the stadium is sold out no matter the majority of them are in the twilight of their careers.
Who the fuck leaving their home to go and watch Kraigg Brathwsite, Raymon Reifer. sharmar Brooks, Jermaine Blackwood, and company?
Our stars, our best players don’t play test cricket or don’t play it anymore for a myriad of reasons. So who
Outside of their families going to watch the test team? Certainly NOT the masses.
2023-09-17 19:23:50
In reply to imusic
Whenever and wherever Pollard, Bravo, Narine, Russell Pooran and Hosein play, the stadium is sold out no matter the majority of them are in the twilight of their careers.
Isnt that stretching it a bit?
2023-09-17 20:46:47
In reply to imusic
Which means, test cricket as it currently exists in the West Indies is DEAD. Outside of possibly Dominica & Barbados when Exngland plays there (filled with English holiday goers)….and by the way, nobody here questions their cricket knowledge, even though most of them just there for sun, sand, sea, and a good time with the cricket being incidental
Bro, the English traveller love All-inclusive, in 2008 Jan and I returned to Bim after visiting the previous year for the WC, We stayed at Almond Beach, close the Gap, one of my partners was the managing director, the night before the ODI match, we had plenty fun, what I learned, these travellers, all inclusive package included Hotel room, food and beverage, Lunch and Snacks to the game and transportation.
The days after the game, Staying at the hotel, enjoying the F&B that was included with the package.
The local vendors, taxi owners, benefit very little from the English visits to the Island.
I piad a scalper $300 us, because I was not going into any Party Stand.
My wife and I are dancers, not revellers.
Them English tourist understands the game.
2023-09-17 21:07:12
In reply to googley
That is why the musician loves t20,Pollard is a t20 star.
2023-09-18 05:47:14
In reply to openning
And how is your test cricket going since bazball? 
2023-09-18 17:13:14
In reply to tc1
tc1 limestone
Pollard is an attraction in T20 leagues around the world
He is still in demand as player or coach.
2023-09-18 17:15:49
In reply to Halliwell
You’re going to attack me for having an opinion?
The bible thumper has no opinion, its just his paranoia he focuses upon now
since he got a warning about destroying threads..
ok a moderator gave him advice to stop...
2023-09-18 18:17:17
In reply to sgtdjones
Please be careful with direct attacks…
I got no such warning. However, I noted general advice and I ignore you…feels good
The bible thumper has no opinion, its just his paranoia he focuses upon now
since he got a warning about destroying threads.. cool
2023-09-18 23:27:38
In reply to sgtdjones
Wait, you kill my thread? I hope the baggage lady see that
2023-09-19 00:14:07
In reply to Barry
And how is your test cricket going since bazball?
Test cricket will continue to be okay, I don't measure the format by the performance of our players.
As a fan, who have enjoy batsmanship and bowling ship from an early age, the weakened and backward leadership of CWI, got us to where we are.
As a Barbadian, I blame none other than Conde Riley, after more than 30 years, and 25 years without having one quality performing Barbadian that the world would want to follow.
That rock is the home of the 3 W's, Wes, Gary, Malcolm, Garner, GG. Dessie, and many more, and to have players representing that Island, as if they are from Canada, say so much of the people running the BCA.
My good brother, how do we rank in all formats, that what we should be discussing, especially the last two cycles of all formats.
2023-09-19 02:03:43
In reply to openning
Don’t you agree that the big three or five are changing and innovating the formats? Where are your think tanks- on this board? 
2023-09-19 02:04:32
In reply to openning
Innovation means not being stuck in the past… 
2023-09-19 02:19:20
In reply to Barry
After the 1976 olympic we saw the changes in Australia ministry ], separating Culture from sports and having to separate ministries.
My close West Indies partners here been talking about it from that time.
A number of former canadian Winter Olympian moved to Australia as coaches, I wore to church an Aussie cricket tie yesterday, the only gift I kept from the embarrasment I received from an Aussie, at our Christmas celebration.
My brother in law was happy to wear the Australian blazer, hat and what ever I did not want.
It was at that time I saw cricket was becoming more of a professional sport, and what we were doing to produce players, had to change.
Innovation means not being stuck in the past
Bro, this is a guy, that in order to golf, took golf lessons, in order to dance, took golf lessons.
I had no choice, I was married into a Suzuki music family
One of my closest friends move home to Antigua, apart from his work, cricket was his life, after seeing what was going on in Antigua, he stayed far away.
I glad he did, because I know him.
He came back once to represent Calgary cricket association, in a land deal, that was will for cricket.
Our East Indian fans was giving it away, being yes people, and not getting legal representation to assist them
My Antiguan brother having his own Real Estate firm, having every documentation of cricket in the province was well equip to deal with the situation.
I am a 70 year old man, surrounded by family that make me think.
2023-09-19 02:37:43
In reply to openning
Do you think West Indian societies have built the capacity to innovate? Are you satisfied with the level of institutional development? What about Government policy, culture and mindsets?
2023-09-19 02:45:40
On this message board do we embrace experimentation and risk? Do we celebrate when captains and coaches make room for innovative practices or do we deliberately tear them down because they are from the wrong country?
2023-09-19 02:49:51
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2023-09-19 03:03:07
In reply to Barry
I left Barbados in April 1970, living in Western Canada I really don't have any close West Indies friends. I usually get into trouble when I attend a cricket game in Barbados, whether it is student at Cave Hill, telling about coming to a funeral, our questioning the approach to the game by Barbados regional players.
I am not involve in politics in the region.
I've met MAM a number of times, see is the representative from my area, my mom always love her.
I am proud of what she is doing.
2023-09-19 04:31:55
In reply to Halliwell
If you in it you’d like it; I wasn’t going to sign up for that because I didnt want to be told HOW to watch cricket at QPO
concrete stand or the cycle track in the blazing sun curry chicken and roti and and a bokkle a rum watch me
2023-09-19 06:21:26
In reply to ponderiver
Then maybe we sat together!
I may have even offered you curry iguana
THAT was the way to watch cricket at QPO before wine & jam, jump & wave.
2023-09-19 16:19:20
In reply to ponderiver
What about the shade under the saman tree, my uncle said it was the best spot
and one could tap Raffie Knowles on his head when he went by, he would be pissed.
Make sure you wear a bulletproof vest...
if you are with Boris jr...
2023-09-19 16:59:22
In reply to Barry
There are a few issues I have been writing about for the last 3-5 years.
1. Captain's role
Should be similar to other sports captain role, the responsibility of all on field duty, should be at the feet of the head coach, with technology and the advancement of the sport, captains don't have the opportunity to see in real time, and make decisions.
I do think Sammy and the SLK get it, that lab top is always available to him.
In my working life, I seen so many management theories, I started out with Theory X & Y, finishing 30 years later with Six Sigma, so once an organization adapts Bazbal and is committed to it, only time will see the benefit of it.
Viv told us his last match in the region, A University President X1 vs South Africa, that our batman was becoming a group of survivors
and we can see it, in the las 25 years of our cricket.
I enjoyed the innovation of Virender Sehwag ,the batsmanship of ab de villiers and Dwayne Bravo style in the T 20 formats, Dwayne does not have the power of Gayle, Pollard or Russell, but he can Fade, Slice and draw a cricket ball.
These terms are part of golf.
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