Years of age
Still run out players nearly half his age while fielding at cover point?
Remarkable. Man fit like a fiddle even at nearly 40
And they still call dem prima donnas and say they doh like to train
Bravo and Russell still world class in the field.
Polly seems to have lost a step. His batting has been quite consistent in this tournament though.
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How does ole man DJ Bravo at nearly 40
2023-09-21 02:29:16
2023-09-21 02:31:00
Dem showed the young kids at GAW , how to get a beat down.
2023-09-21 02:36:31
In reply to imusic
2023-09-21 02:37:10
In reply to imusic
that 26 year is not interested in excellence...a shame
2023-09-21 02:39:09
In reply to imusic
If I’m not mistaken, he doesn’t drink alcohol and seems to keep himself very fit
2023-09-21 02:40:33
In reply to Jumpstart
Lest we forget…
It was “TKR geriatrics” after 2 matches and zero points
2023-09-21 02:41:00
In reply to Halliwell
Lol
2023-09-21 02:41:54
In reply to doosra
Honestly Doosie…..I keep seeing people making comments like Hety is infinitely talented (Jumpy said that today) and how much talent Hety has
I honestly don’t see it to the extent that almost everyone else is.
He can bat. But he’s nowhere where everyone seems to rate him. I keep waiting to see it but even when he does well in IPL, he has skills….but again….not up to the hype.
They obviously see something special in him or sleds they wouldn’t pay that kind of $$$. To me he’s special in the field. But as a batsman? Meh.
2023-09-21 02:43:08
In reply to Jumpstart
he doesn’t drink alcohol
Wasn't aware but now i like him even more.
No one should consume alcohol.
2023-09-21 02:44:59
In reply to imusic
i made a comparison with him and Clayton Lambert on this board last year.... i don't remember if i had him as a poor man Lambert or the other way round...i have to look for that thread...i feel you on that one...i can't argue against you
2023-09-21 02:56:36
In reply to imusic
You are Dissing Duksie here ..
He said on a thread he is well versed in 4 areas and he doesn't venture from such...
I am wondering if his expertise lies picking Hetty as the next Sobers in coming?
2023-09-21 03:00:23
In reply to imusic
Pointed!
That's how I've always seen him as a batsman with fair flair and attacking instincts but not this abundantly talented batsman people made him out to be. Even at youth level we use to tell him make the most of the mid range skill set he possessed.
Eventually Hetty realised that and opted for an aspect of the game he could manage and live with. But when people have their expectations and those are not met understanding and reason take leave.
Does he disappoint those of us who saw him at 11, yes. Now, NO! Especially when he is quite settled where he is at. Frankly the people who matter to Hettie are not worried about Hetmyer the WI cricketer. Can he max out an innings? Sure! Good enough for them and they pay him accordingly.
Can't revile a man for being honest with himself and making decisions accordingly. Don't tell that to most in these parts though!
2023-09-21 03:02:40
In reply to Emir
In a player TV advert/profile for WI cricketers (he was still playing at the time) he made that statement when asked to say something people may not know about him. His reply " don't drink alcohol, don't smoke, never did, never will."
2023-09-21 03:05:36
In reply to cumberland
The ones in these parts dont they view UB, Pollard , Narine , Bravo as failures, mercenaries , lick it cricket they call such, but when one of their own chooses to go down that path , its ok.
The mercenaries paved the way ..
2023-09-21 03:07:02
In reply to imusic
Bravo fielding is as much about his anticipation as it is about his athleticism. see him in slip or leg slip how he moves with the shot. He follows the game that closely. That run out with Hetty, if you see it again, Bravo was already moving to where the ball was going as the shot was played, he got to the ball faster than Hetty anticipated based on a normal fielder's movement.
2023-09-21 03:09:41
In reply to doosra
My highest standard of Guyanese batsmanship is Alvin Kallicharran, whom I rate just slightly lower than Brian Charles Lara and Isaac Vivian Alexander Richards
Guyana has also oroduced a great batsman in Rohan Kanhai. And of course the mercurial Carl Hooper and Faoud Bacchus.
I would compare Hety to Clive Lloyd, which is a great compliment to Hety….and perhaps an injustice to Lloyd.
And Lloyd was no Kanhai or Kallicharran. Not in the same class.
2023-09-21 03:12:17
In reply to imusic
I would compare Hety to Clive Lloyd
i am an ole timer with a few years to go and clearly I only saw Clive Lloyd in the scoresheets...but I don't know if i am going there , yet...
i'd say high compliments to Hetty...what was Clive Lloyd like at 26?
i can only learn from you good folks who were a minute or 2 before me
I grew up in the late 80s / 90s and I can tell you in my book he is not close to Hooper, Shiv, Sarwan...i saw those guys bat and bat and bat...i've not seen Hetty bat and bat and bat...if you know what I mean....
2023-09-21 03:17:44
In reply to doosra
Clive thought was an old man while still being young. I read his autobiography during the pandemic and apparently his father died while he was still an early teenager and he had to take on the responsibility of caring for the family at an early age. That must have matured him. I don’t think Hetmeyer ever had an experience that would have forced him to mature like that. Although de man married now so that supposed to give yuh some maturity
2023-09-21 03:19:20
In reply to doosra
I do know what you mean
Lloyd at 26 was a raw talent. Hard hitter, arguably known more for his fielding than his batting. In his case, it appeared as if with captaincy came maturity from his batting and became a great player in his own right for WI. He certainly wasn’t that at 26.
Matter of fact, when he was made captain, it was controversial as it as thought that Burnham essentially installed him in the position. Whether that’s factual or not, it turned out to be very beneficial for the region.
2023-09-21 03:22:34
In reply to sgtdjones
That is so. You won't find anywhere me subscribing to that view! T20 Cricket provided an avenue for afro Caribbean cricketers (and others) to break the generational curse of lack of money and wealth accumulation and the guys you mentioned made the most of their opportunities.
It was quite unedifying and disingenuous to see them being pilloried for the decisions they made. It still is. I understand why people said what they said and still say. I never agreed!
Which is why I can live with Shimron's decisions he has made about his cricket. Ofc there are other factors I am aware of but it is what it is!
2023-09-21 03:25:37
In reply to soloview
Bravo fielding is as much about his anticipation as it is about his athleticism.
That’s a great and valid point
I’ve also seen that anticipation get him in trouble where he anticipated and had to course correct because the chance went the other way and dropped the catch. Would have been a dolly had he stayed put.
He gets it right more often than not though…shows how much MENTALLY he’s into the game. That is a skill that is learned and practiced. Very hard to do.
I don’t believe many in the region truly appreciate what an outstanding CRICKETER Dwayne Bravo is. Another in that same mould is Jason Holder.
Still…..Bravo to this day remains an exceptional athlete.
Kudos to him.
2023-09-21 03:41:29
In reply to imusic
I fully agree man. Bravo’s anticipation is out of this world. I was in the oval with my mom in the 2015 Super 50 final, when Guyana was playingTT in the oval. Trinidad made 210 i think in 50 overs, Jason Mohammed scored a hundred. Bravo bowled a short ball to Christopher Barnwell and he pulled but it came off the splice of the bat and was heading towards the umpire. Bravo plucked the ball out of mid air. Honestly it was a stupendous catch.
2023-09-21 05:09:09
In reply to imusic
The Aussie coach rated Hetty highly.
2023-09-21 10:22:40
In reply to imusic
Thank you.
2023-09-21 11:55:07
In reply to soloview
Thanks, I eish to see him influence the youths in TT about why they should completely avoid alcohol.
2023-09-21 12:33:33
Hetty is the laziest cricketer around.
2023-09-21 14:15:17
In reply to Jumpstart
If I’m not mistaken, he doesn’t drink alcohol
Well you're mistaken because I've seen DJ Dummy at a bar sucking down booze like it's sugar water.
And all this jizz fest over a routine piece of fielding where he threw down the stumps a mere 10 yards away?
2023-09-21 14:19:11
In reply to Jumpstart
If I’m not mistaken, he doesn’t drink alcohol and seems to keep himself very fit
How does he get himself into the state of mind to make the horrid music that he makes?
2023-09-21 14:25:57
In reply to Larr Pullo
Big Dawg follows your hero Montano... 
2023-09-21 14:27:11
In reply to Larr Pullo
Aliens? 
2023-09-21 14:28:53
In reply to sgtdjones
The ones in these parts dont they view UB, Pollard , Narine , Bravo as failures, mercenaries , lick it cricket they call such, but when one of their own chooses to go down that path , its ok.
The mercenaries paved the way
The mercenaries paved the way
im glad somebody remembered this....de kinda abuse CG, Bravo, narine and especially pollard were subjected to eh
2023-09-21 14:30:11
In reply to Larr Pullo
i dunno nah.
2023-09-21 14:38:37
In reply to Jumpstart
de kinda abuse CG, Bravo, narine and especially pollard were subjected to eh
Abused by whom? No one ever stopped those fcukers from playing junk cricket.
It's their rank hypocrisy, and outright lying about "having a strong desire to play for West Indies" when they wanted to cherry pick their selections to suit themselves, that most people took issue with.
2023-09-21 14:40:55
In reply to SnoopDog
dont you pick and choose briefs?...
All lawyers do..
2023-09-21 14:43:11
In reply to SnoopDog
Abused by whom? No one ever stopped those fcukers from playing junk cricket.
It's their rank hypocrisy, and outright lying about "having a strong desire to play for West Indies" when they wanted to cherry pick their selections to suit themselves, that most people took issue with.
It's their rank hypocrisy, and outright lying about "having a strong desire to play for West Indies" when they wanted to cherry pick their selections to suit themselves, that most people took issue with.
ey bro...not allyuh...in general. especially those who were feeding at the trough during the Hillairian Hunte days and the big idiot years that followed.
I personally feel all the players in 2009 had a strong desire to play for the WI....gayle was making runs, sarwan and chanders were making a lot of runs and we actually had two or three genuinely quick and skillfull pacers in taylor, kemar roach, fidel and rampaul. the side was actually challenging very good sides as the england series win in 2009 showed and the winter tour of australia soon after
2023-09-21 14:54:22
In reply to sgtdjones
dont you pick and choose briefs?
I do.
And no one would have given a rats ass if those junk cricket stars stayed and played their junk cricket instead of trying to cherry pick when they wanted to play for West Indies to further their own self interests.
2023-09-21 16:04:13
In reply to SnoopDog
Same thing snoopy
They pick and choose..Hetty?
2023-09-21 16:09:53
In reply to sgtdjones
Nah.
This isn't the casino and they're not a the roulette table.
Go play yuh junk cricket, live with your choice, and leave the real cricket to those who genuinely want to play for the Wondies.
2023-09-21 16:24:43
In reply to SnoopDog
That’s the problem
Because they are making some money sometimes a section of the rabble think those players mustn’t participate in “our” cricket
If they better than the ones who want to play real cricket they damn well deserve the pick, when they have time! Beggar fans wanna be chooser fans
2023-09-21 16:44:48
In reply to Halliwell
when they have time!
I don't care if they're making two hundred trillion dollars playing junk cricket.
That's not the issue. The issue is that they only have time for Wondies cricket when it suits them. They don't want to play in domestic 50 over and 4 day tournaments and they don't want to play against weak teams. All of them "have a strong desire to play for West Indies" when it's against Mindia and just before marquee events like World Cups.
They're fcuking selfish and the fans rightly told them to fcuk off and go play your junk cricket.
2023-09-21 16:47:59
I agree that Hetty sold us out… he is evil
2023-09-21 16:49:39
In reply to Barry the itty bitty tittie
I agree that Narine pelts… he is evil
I wouldn't go so far as to call the man evil. But he pelts.
2023-09-21 16:51:11
Beaton is the mother of all pelters- sneaky like a true muddie
2023-09-21 16:52:42
In reply to SnoopDog
Hetty made so much?
I don't care if they're making two hundred trillion dollars playing junk cricket.
No wonder he and Keemo grow fatter
2023-09-21 17:01:41
In reply to Barry the itty bitty tittie
No wonder he and Keemo grow fatter
That's because every time they bang an easy Trini woman she gives them free doubles.
2023-09-21 17:27:32
In reply to SnoopDog
Likely Venezuelan… when they conquer you, the fat man will be first citizens…. 
2023-09-21 18:09:34
In reply to Larr Pullo
How does he get himself into the state of mind to make the horrid music that he makes?
It’s the peeps who listen and buy his music who’re drink. Not him
2023-09-21 18:17:04
In reply to imusic
He can bat. But he’s nowhere where everyone seems to rate him. I keep waiting to see it but even when he does well in IPL, he has skills….but again….not up to the hype
Dukes seh fuh remind you that Hety is the only batsman who at 23 raked up 5 ODI centuries (or some nonsense argument like that).
2023-09-21 18:19:17
In reply to doosra
made a comparison with him and Clayton Lambert on this board last year.... i don't remember if i had him as a poor man Lambert or the other way round...i have to look for that thread...i feel you on that one...i can't argue against you
What Clayton Lambert can do to a bowlers, Hety can only dream of.
2023-09-21 18:22:24
In reply to Verstehen
I don't drink and I love his music .... champion, champion ...Others here drink and they don't like it .... go figure ... me say Dwayne Bravo is a champion, Forbes Burnham is a bottom ...
2023-09-21 22:14:50
In reply to imusic
For all his career Lloyd was grossly under-rated. Batting is about picking length and movement then deciding the best position to be in and where to play the ball while in that position. After making huge test runs late/mid 60's Lloyd found himself 12th man to many lesser mortals. Another under-rated WI test batsman is Gayle. The focus on both men's hard-hitting took away from their Batting Pedigree
2023-09-21 23:25:31
What HUGE test runs Lloyd make in the 1960s
2023-09-21 23:52:05
In reply to imusic
How does ole man DJ Bravo at nearly 40
Fitness is not trying to out drink your partners, or trying to eat every item on the buffett table.
I saw Pollard running between the Wickets with Walton last evening, I was totally impress.
Fitness is the key to performance
2023-09-22 19:44:55
In reply to Barry
1st of all it is useful to know what it is you don not know you F&%$# Imp and sometimes Oaf.
After Lloyd's debut his test avg was 160 and he was topscorer for WI in both innings being not out in the 2nd.
He then scored his 1st ton in his 4th test all in the 1960's. Now run along and please to Eff Off.
2023-09-22 19:54:18
In reply to Brerzerk
Cursing does not become a female
His average from 1966 to 1970 is 38.83 compared to 46.67 from 1970 to 1985….
Career averages
Span Mat Runs HS Bat Av 100 Wkts BBI Bowl Av 5 Ct St Ave Diff
unfiltered 1966-1985 110 7515 242* 46.67 19 10 2/13 62.20 0 90 0 -15.52 Profile
filtered 1966-1969 18 1159 129 38.63 3 4 2/17 50.50 0 9 0 -11.86
2023-09-22 19:56:29
In reply to Brerzerk
In reply to Barry
1st of all it is useful to know what it is you don not know you F&%$# Imp and sometimes Oaf.
After Lloyd's debut his test avg was 160 and he was topscorer for WI in both innings being not out in the 2nd.
He then scored his 1st ton in his 4th test all in the 1960's. Now run along and please to Eff Off.
His test average was 160
2023-09-22 20:04:14
In reply to Barry
You could start by learning to count and not embarrass yourself.
After Yagga's debut his avg was 314. See if that helps then remember
what F&^% Off means
2023-09-22 20:07:19
In reply to Brerzerk
I gave you the average for the period discussed….
2023-09-22 20:09:04
In reply to Brerzerk
Average =This is the arithmetic mean, and is calculated by adding a group of numbers and then dividing by the count of those numbers.
2023-09-22 20:16:03
In reply to Brerzerk
I don’t know where you get 160 from but here is his average and highest scores to 1972
Mat Inns NO Runs HS Avg 100s 50s 0s
Year 1966
2 3 1 165 82 82.50 0 2 0
Year 1967
1 2 0 62 38 31.00 0 0 0
Year 1968
6 11 2 505 129 56.11 3 0 0
Year 1969
9 17 0 427 70 25.11 0 3 0
Year 1971
5 10 0 295 64 29.50 0 3 0
Year 1972
2 3 0 66 43 22.00 0 0
There is a school of thought that he should have been dropped 1972-1973
2023-09-22 20:54:13
In reply to Barry
Changing the subject never works...
Statement- Lloyd Made big runs in the 60's only to be 12th man to lesser mortals few yrs after
Intimation-He did not make big runs in the 60's.
Yet on debut in a team with Sobers, Kanhai, Butcher he was topscorer.
'66 Debut, next series '68
in 2 series between '68-'69 he scored 3 tons
Yet after a bad run in 69' England and '71 vs. India he was out of the WI team even though making a Rest of The World XI squad in 1970.
In '72 he was 12th man and Carew and Foster were in the team. Consider that experienced Butcher and Nurse had retired in 69 and Lloyd was fairly experienced.
On the subject that I commented on i.e. Lloyd made big runs in the 60 and got replaced by lesser mortals (Carew especially) I rest my case.
2023-09-22 21:07:26
In reply to Brerzerk
All players make runs
How much runs you make is the Archie evaluative criteria 
2023-09-22 21:11:07
In reply to Brerzerk
Joey could bowl leg spin and didn’t play after 1972
Confirming that Lloyd’s performance up to that period was spotty
2023-09-22 21:13:58
In reply to Brerzerk
He had only played 13 first-class matches in eight years when picked to tour England in 1963, and despite a moderate start to the summer, a century against Glamorgan was enough for him to be picked for the first and third Test of the series.
He did not manage a hundred between the end of that tour and the next trip to England three years later, but still made the squad and another timely hundred earned him a call-up for the second Test, but after making 0 and 2 he was immediately dropped.
Ten fifties and a hundred on the tour to Australia and New Zealand in 1968-69 helped him secure a regular place in the side, and it was against New Zealand he made his only Test hundred - 109 at Auckland.
A third tour of England followed but it was no more successful than the others. He made three hundreds, including a career-best 172 against Leicestershire in a second-wicket stand of 324 with Roy Fredericks, but his form otherwise was indifferent. Generally he struggled in English conditions and in four Tests over the three summers he made only 104 runs.
He was in and out of the side thereafter - in seven Tests between 1969 and 1972 he failed to pass fifty - and his final appearance came against New Zealand in Barbados.
He did not manage a hundred between the end of that tour and the next trip to England three years later, but still made the squad and another timely hundred earned him a call-up for the second Test, but after making 0 and 2 he was immediately dropped.
Ten fifties and a hundred on the tour to Australia and New Zealand in 1968-69 helped him secure a regular place in the side, and it was against New Zealand he made his only Test hundred - 109 at Auckland.
A third tour of England followed but it was no more successful than the others. He made three hundreds, including a career-best 172 against Leicestershire in a second-wicket stand of 324 with Roy Fredericks, but his form otherwise was indifferent. Generally he struggled in English conditions and in four Tests over the three summers he made only 104 runs.
He was in and out of the side thereafter - in seven Tests between 1969 and 1972 he failed to pass fifty - and his final appearance came against New Zealand in Barbados.
Carew was not a competitor for Lloyd’s place
2023-09-22 21:24:02
Same with the talented foster
2023-09-22 21:42:03
In reply to Barry
2023-09-22 22:01:29
In reply to Barry
You do know that 'The Talented' Foster 'retired' from Test Cricket after he the then most prominent regional FC skippy and
most prolific FC batting bully was overlooked as Skippy for the 1974 tour of India though.
The Result? Mr Walcott drafted in a raw 23yr old with the initials I.V.A. to replace Fos on that tour and the rest is history.
Nice man though, very nice man is Maurice Linton Churchill Foster
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