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The Hetmeyer Situration

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 13:33:37 

What ails the young padawan? Women, fame, fortune, an adverse reaction to the effect of the preceding as happened to BCL in the early 90s? The sooner we can isolate the problem, the sooner we can rehabilitate him

 
Halliwell 2023-09-23 13:47:40 

In reply to Jumpstart

Looking in from the outside, he appears to be terribly disappointed every time he gets out. So it means something to him, and he does feel it. Maybe he just needs a guiding arm around the shoulder and help to focus .

 
Dukes 2023-09-23 13:51:20 

In reply to Halliwell

He needs to play more cricket and spend more time at the crease.His batting is instinctive and thus requires muscle memory he has become tentative due to his fear of failure and that is why his scoring rate has dropped significantlyHe has a scoring rate of over 150 in the IPL and here his scoring rate is 20 points less against inferior bowling.

 
LBW375 2023-09-23 13:55:13 

In reply to Halliwell

Everytime he gets out he throws back his head in disbelief

Simple, stop playing stupid shots

 
Barry 2023-09-23 13:57:31 

In reply to Dukes



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In reply to Halliwell

He needs to play more cricket and spend more time at the crease.His batting is instinctive and thus requires muscle memory he has become tentative due to his fear of failure


You mean the neurons not in the muscle right? shock

 
Barry 2023-09-23 13:59:27 

In reply to LBW375

Remember how you waited on Hooper and Hooper waited on hooper and the first woman simply hated on hooper? Use the neurons and remember razz

 
StumpCam 2023-09-23 13:59:52 

In reply to Jumpstart

From my vantage point, there’s two things about Hetmyer that are undeniable, he is talented and only 26 years old!
Whatever he and the people in charge of his destiny choose to do with that is out of our control!
However, I think too much of short form cricket has hindered his development.
What makes it even more pronounced is batting lower than number 4 where he just comes in and swing for the fences!
Those are the cricketing reasons anyway IMO.

 
StumpCam 2023-09-23 14:03:27 

In reply to Dukes & Halliwell
Didn’t see you all posts, but we all expressed similar sentiments!
cool

 
sgtdjones 2023-09-23 14:07:20 

In reply to Halliwell

You fergat fast food and the young generation...plus attention span.
The latter down to 47 seconds in '23

 
VIX 2023-09-23 14:16:12 

In reply to Jumpstart

Hetmeyer is'nt under-performing.
He's a talented player, but he's not going to get any better. At his age he's supposed to be near the top of his game.

He's performing exactly where his stats suggests he should be.

Averages:
Test- 28
ODI- 33
T20i- 21
FC- 30
T20- 28

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 14:21:04 

In reply to VIX

Don’t say that. Adam Voges was 36 when he made his test debut. In the 20 tests he was able to play, he averaged 60+

 
Emir 2023-09-23 14:24:55 

[b]In reply to Halliwell

he appears to be terribly disappointed every time he gets out.


I want to badly believe that- he is way too valuable for our future to let him sink and become a hitter in IPL towards the end of the innings.

Look, the other night in the 1st qualifier, a poster mentioned how he had a big grin in his face when his team had loss. His facial expressions and body language is rare and strange- like last year in the finals when his team was going down.

I wish he can solve whatever ails him .

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 14:38:28 

In reply to Emir

Remember lance gibbs said he’d need a belt for hetmeyer? But you’re right

 
Speed100 2023-09-23 20:35:32 

West indies management, pollard ,Simmons and Co to be blame. They killed his confidence when they choose so call fitter player over him and always bouncing him around. So he now choose to be a t20 slugger at the end of an innings around the world.

 
Barry 2023-09-23 20:41:54 

His wife is all that? shock

 
Barry 2023-09-23 20:43:02 

Sammy and swallow ain’t pick him yet big grin

 
anthonyp 2023-09-23 20:50:49 

So the President invited the team to a brunch today... The only player that didn't turn up is Hety, ah guess momanger did not give him permission... Everybody else turned up with their families.

Machel and Kes were also there... Here are the pics..

Link

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 21:09:55 

In reply to anthonyp

Machel and Kes is not the enemy? Yuh swear the way some of the GAW fans are behaving is serious country to country rivalry going on here

 
tops 2023-09-23 21:14:29 

In reply to anthonyp
What, Presi send taxi for all a dem and forgot he?
That's Y he gon mek duck tmr?
Spite dem blue hair!

 
anthonyp 2023-09-23 21:22:03 

In reply to Jumpstart

Only de stupid ones from both countries believe that... Machel and Guyana president extra close.. Don't be surprise if the two of them turn up at Providence together for the final.

Since that Rowley comment about Guyana things start getting worse.. People from both sides going at it so you shouldn't be throwing the blame on GAW fans alone... Got plenty stupid ones for TKR too.

 
anthonyp 2023-09-23 21:23:54 

In reply to tops

Man need permission from momanger... She didn't give him in time and de taxi couldn't wait longer lol

 
Barry 2023-09-23 21:42:02 

In reply to anthonyp

Thanks bro… big grin

 
Barry 2023-09-23 21:43:26 

It’s just business folks cool

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 21:45:21 

In reply to anthonyp

So you’re using that as a justification for violence and the generally poor behavior of GAW fans at the games involving TKR? Hoss GAW fans was jumping on TT flags in 2018, long before Rowley ever made that statement

 
anthonyp 2023-09-23 22:06:50 

In reply to Jumpstart

Man give it ah rest... you honestly feel TKR fans are saints in this? They are just as stupid as the few GAW fans. Ah bunch of degrading shyte they got to say about Guyanese daily on social media... De idiots who taking the bait retaliating and as usual TKR fans can't tek it... Is ah Trini thing... Love to talk shyte but can't take it back.

You keep bringing up that flag story but always leaving out de one where your Country men... TKR fans burnt the Guyana flag.

Cut the crap and stop trying to shift all de blame on AW fans... A few TKR ones just as stupid.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 22:15:04 

In reply to anthonyp

I could tell yuh….with as much killing, kidnapping and the like that are plaguing the country these days, not one foreigner would have worried about an irate TKR fan getting pissed his side lost and trying to fight. Probably getting robbed outside the oval but not getting into a fight with a TKR fan

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-23 22:23:15 

In reply to anthonyp

Yeah. But that was 2019. In reaction to the flag hog pile in 2018. Although the team had fixed that already in the final. Face it patnas. The Guyanese crowd is volatile. They’ve been volatile since the 70s with the WSC cricket riots. You see anybody in the history of the CPL behaving like this. And we have an enormous cricket rivalry with Barbados. But as I told somebody else on this thread. The TT GAW rivalry has more off the pitch that it has on. Only a blind man wouldn’t admit that.

 
Emir 2023-09-24 03:24:14 

In reply to Jumpstart

True, and it is unhealthy and I would like it to stop. When the behind the curtain President of Guyana, Jagdeo is himself setting fires, it is damn serious. While we can call it out we must also turn down the temperature.

 
Jumpstart 2023-09-24 18:05:30 

In reply to Emir

Yeah. I hope the TKR fans in providence just hold it down, don’t get easily agitated, and conduct themselves in the manner in which we have become accustomed and famed for, win lose or draw. Is only a game. The other side doesn’t seem to think so but it is only a game