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JoeGrine 2023-11-03 12:29:11 

I know there was another thread on this but I cannot locate it so here goes:

And now there are eight:
GROUP 1
STATHS
Mona
KC
St. Catherine

GROUP 2
JC
Hydel
STGC
Tivoli


Clearly Group 1 is the proverbial "Group of Death". On form STATHS and Mona should come out of that group and JC and either Hydel or STGC should emerge from Group 2.

DaCosta Cup
I watched a bit of STETHS vs Clarendon and in rainy conditions, both teams looked impressive. I was subsequently told that Cornwall outplayed STETHS in the former's 0-1 loss playing with 10 men. Can Cornwall beat Clarendon? They will need to (plus hope for some lucky breaks) to advance.

 
Slipfeeler 2023-11-03 13:54:39 

In reply to JoeGrine

The ball is round but it would be tough for any school in Jamaica to beat Clarendon this year.

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-03 21:44:49 

In reply to Slipfeeler

I will wait until I see three schools in the Manning Cup play a tough match before I crown Clarendon. Those three teams will play in a tough match tomorrow.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-03 23:17:57 

In reply to JoeGrine

Is this a tough matchup for KC Joe?
Purples lost a lot of veterans but may just upset.

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-03 23:26:17 

In reply to RoyalDad

Royal One, since you asked me, as of today, for me KC is not a team that I would consider above StATHS, Mona or even St. Catherine. KC, however, has three things going for them (1) they are playing well at present (2) they have a good coach (3) they have a great crowd. StATHS also has all those three things in their favor, Mona has 1 & 2 and St Catherine has 1 & 2.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-04 01:59:39 

In reply to JoeGrine

Interesting. Lost their 1st match against Hydel I remember, and the death bells were sounding. Purples rebounded nicely and as you mentioned have been playing well. The crowd factor may just push them over the top,irregardless of the other two. Will be watching.

 
Slipfeeler 2023-11-05 01:00:04 

Cornwall was just minutes away from beating Clarendon today, which would have been very disastrous for Clarendon to be beaten by a team which traditionally does not believe in transferring aka buying players from other schools. Match ended 1-1. This Cornwall team this year seems underrated, they lost but virtually outplayed STETHS during their last match despite playing with 10 players from first half, showing resilience by equalizing every time the highly touted STETHS scores.

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-05 01:10:24 

In reply to Slipfeeler

Cornwall is coached by a man that I rate in my top 3 best high school coaches. What he has done with this team is exceptional. 2024....such a pity!

 
Slipfeeler 2023-11-05 13:56:35 

Cornwall has a rich football history for a school that does not participate in transfer of players from other schools. With the most DaCosta Cup and Oliver Shield Trophies among Rural schools in Jamaica.

 
Slipfeeler 2023-11-05 19:24:22 

BB Coke versus Clarendon will be a whopper of a game this week.

 
XDFIX 2023-11-05 21:18:47 

A shout out to Georges!

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-05 22:46:17 

In reply to XDFIX

ES - TEE - GEE - CEE
ES - TEE - GEE - CEE

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-05 22:48:11 

In reply to Slipfeeler

BB Coke versus Clarendon will be a whopper of a game this week.


There is a possibility the Manning Cup semifinalists will be known on Tuesday. The DaCosta Cup, not so, however, there are some interesting matches ahead especially the one you highlighted.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-08 01:24:20 

In reply to JoeGrine

Joe,KC surprising everyone it seems. High probability this year's Manning champs.

 
XDFIX 2023-11-08 01:41:08 

Tuesday’s results

Group One

Mona 1, St Catherine 1

Kingston College 1, STATHS 0

Group Two

Jamaica College 2, Tivoli High 1

St George’s College 1, Hydel High 1

Friday’s fixtures

Group One

STATHS vs Mona

Kingston College vs St Catherine

Group Two

Hydel High vs Tivoli High

Jamaica College vs St George’s College

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-08 10:51:07 

In reply to RoyalDad

Yes Sir, a massive win for KC yesterday. Such is the group, however, that the semifinalist from that group remains unknown though KC is in the driver's seat. A draw against St. Catherine will see them through.

TABLE
KC 4
STATHS 3
MONA 2
ST.CATH 1

My odds to advance:
KC 8/10
STATHS 5/10
MONA 4/10
StCATH 2/10
Fixtures:
StATHS vs Mona = a draw is all StATHS needs to advance assuming St. Catherine doesn't beat KC by 3 goals. Mona win and they are in.
KC vs St. Catherine = KC needs a draw to advance or a loss by no more than 2 goals coupled with a StATHS loss.


TABLE
HYDEL 4
STGC 4
JC 2
TG 0

From the next group:
HYDEL 9/10
STGC 6/10
JC 4/10
Fixtures:
HYDEL vs TG - only needs a draw or a loss and a STGC win.
STGC vs JC =STGC only need a draw to advance. JC has to win to get in.

So, KC has the best odds of advancing from their group and there could be a new champion crowned this year.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-09 02:41:21 

In reply to JoeGrine

Saw the highlights and Staths had some dangerous opportunities!That screecher that hit the crossbar was amazing.KC held on though.

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-09 09:04:43 

In reply to RoyalDad

1. STATHS had 65% of the possession.
2. STATHS had better scoring opportunities.
3. Football, strange game.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-09 11:27:06 

In reply to JoeGrine

Yes.The 1-0 score hid a lot of the overall ball game.

 
Chrissy 2023-11-10 20:00:03 

Leh we go Mona High! You can beat St Andrew Tech!

 
Chrissy 2023-11-10 20:22:49 

Mona Hih leading 2-0 21 minutes in

 
FanAttick 2023-11-10 21:59:06 

In reply to Chrissy

STATHS knocked out

Mona through to the semi-finals

 
Chrissy 2023-11-10 22:07:08 

In reply to FanAttick
KC 1. St Caths 1
Not sure of final score

 
FanAttick 2023-11-10 22:08:51 

In reply to Chrissy

St Catherine 2, KC 1

KC scored late to move on to the semis

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-10 23:49:24 

In reply to FanAttick

Was this a "tactical" result per KC losing so as to face a more easier opponent? Just asking.

 
XDFIX 2023-11-11 11:11:13 

In reply to RoyalDad

They were fighting to remain in the hunt!

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-11 13:17:50 

In reply to RoyalDad

Nothing tactical there. KC was down to 10 players quite early and secured a goal to advance via goal difference. I am just puzzled that (1) two games that were supposed to start simultaneously had a 15 minute start/end differential. (2) the other group did not play yesterday as well to avoid the appearance of or implementation of gaming the outcomes.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-11 16:03:43 

In reply to JoeGrine

Who is KCs next opponent?

 
FanAttick 2023-11-11 17:08:28 

In reply to RoyalDad

Was this a "tactical" result per KC losing so as to face a more easier opponent? Just asking.


Dont think so…By losing they placed 2nd in the group and are likely to face a tougher opponent in the semis…

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-11 19:57:33 

In reply to RoyalDad

KC's opponent will be the winner of the second group, one of Hydel (95% likely) - STGC or JC (5% likely).

 
FanAttick 2023-11-11 21:53:47 

In reply to JoeGrine

JC knocked out.. STGC advances

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-11 22:31:09 

In reply to FanAttick

Wow!!What a turn of events. JC out.KC will now legitimize their standing with a semifinal win over Hydel/ St.Georges.

 
FanAttick 2023-11-11 22:57:12 

In reply to RoyalDad

Mona must be licking their lips….STGC looks very weak(JC was by far the better team)…Hydel/KC is a toss up…Hydel should win…looking like a Mona vs Hydel final

 
Chrissy 2023-11-11 23:52:41 

In reply to FanAttick

Don’t rule out a North Street derby.
Dem big schools know how to win.
Still, Mona is the team to beat this season.

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-12 00:58:49 

In reply to Chrissy

I have now seen of the semifinalists Mona and STGC play. I haven't seen Hydel (much is said of their Premier League players - five I think) or much of KC. None of the teams I have seen are special, if fact I would say the standard is much lower this year than last and even some of the top players last year who are playing this year have regressed.

The two best matches I have seen this season are Clarendon - STETHS (great game) and STATHS - XLCR (STATHS then looked like an incredibly good team).

Your point about a North Street derby cannot be taken lightly. Best wishes to the 4 semifinalists.

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-12 12:22:14 

In reply to JoeGrine

North Street derby would be nice but I dont think KC want any of that.Doughie Bell would know.

 
XDFIX 2023-11-14 22:13:19 

Putting my vote on Mona to take home the trophy!

Sorry, Georges, not this year!

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-18 22:57:49 

In reply to XDFIX

Light blues could be dangerous.
KC on a roll.
Some analyst on Sportsmax picked all the rural teams to make semis.
Only one left.( Hydel ) Or are they a corporate team??
Open my big mouth now and say KC will win it all.Playing too good and surprising even themselves.

 
FanAttick 2023-11-22 00:21:54 

In reply to JoeGrine

Champions Cup

Glenmuir 1, Mona 0
Clarendon College 3, STGC 1
KC 3, Dinthill 2

Despite the defeat STGC was the better team….I have to revisit my predictions. - the Mona vs STGC Semi-Final will be a toss up

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-22 09:59:28 

In reply to FanAttick

Mona out again.Craig licking his wounds even more.
KC still surprising themselves.Brave bunch of lads I say.

 
XDFIX 2023-11-24 16:00:20 

Will Mona bounce back in their next outing?

 
XDFIX 2023-11-24 19:11:59 

Double header today!

Mona and Hydel - two non-traditional hi will take it home against the name brand sch!

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 20:41:24 

In reply to XDFIX

Mona takes the lead 1-0 (39th minute)

Georges levels the score 1-1 (42nd minute)

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 20:54:32 

Mona 1, Georges 1 (HT)

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 21:18:20 

Mona retakes the lead
2-1 (56th minute)

 
Chrissy 2023-11-24 21:53:57 

In reply to FanAttick

Almost Georges

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 22:00:47 

In reply to Chrissy

Big win Mona

Big Up Phoenix big grin

 
Chrissy 2023-11-24 22:10:13 

Big win dat Mona - a very good year to date

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 22:11:59 

In reply to Chrissy

Would love to see a Mona vs Hydel finalbig grin

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 22:38:18 

Hydel opens the scoring
1-0 3rd minute

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 22:58:05 

Hydel 2, KC 0 (23rd minute)

 
Chrissy 2023-11-24 22:58:08 

In reply to FanAttick
Henry scores - good goal
2-0

 
Chrissy 2023-11-24 23:00:45 

In reply to FanAttick
Hydel should have been disqualified for the season for that ineligible player.

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 23:22:53 

In reply to Chrissy

Hydel 2-0 (HT)

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-24 23:35:14 

In reply to Chrissy

In reply to Chrissy

And they are currently wasting chances which could come back to haunt them.

 
JoeGrine 2023-11-24 23:36:04 

A Mona - Hydel finals will be ISSA's gate receipt nightmare.

 
FanAttick 2023-11-24 23:44:22 

In reply to JoeGrine

KC pulls one back 53rd minute

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 00:03:47 

KC levels the score 2-2 (71st minute)

 
Chrissy 2023-11-25 00:04:14 

In reply to FanAttick
Waaaaah!

 
Chrissy 2023-11-25 00:07:37 

In reply to JoeGrine
Gwan KC lol

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 00:27:27 

2-2
Penalty Shootout

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 00:40:40 

In reply to Chrissy

The Brave has Yieldedbig grin
Hydel thru to the Manning Cup Final

 
Chrissy 2023-11-25 00:40:47 

Go Mona High! Dat is all.

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 00:41:45 

In reply to Chrissy

There will be a 1st Time winner of the 2023 Manning Cup!

Unfortunately I’m scheduled to be in Europe and might not have coverage

 
XDFIX 2023-11-25 00:49:13 

I said the non-traditional hi would take it, so said so done!

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 01:42:55 

In reply to JoeGrine

A Mona - Hydel finals will be ISSA's gate receipt nightmare.


A Mona vs Hydel Final is good for the game…you might be surprised to see a sellout crowd


ISSA’s new rules will shift the paradigm….traditional schools can’t just recruit their way to titles anymore…they will have to focus on developing their own talent

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 15:49:12 

In reply to Chrissy

Chrissy. - I didn’t realize that my brethren and fellow Taylorite Comrade Walton Small is the Hydel principal big grin

 
RoyalDad 2023-11-25 22:39:27 

In reply to JoeGrine

Joe,you may be right.What is the fan base here with both these schools??

 
FanAttick 2023-11-25 23:04:46 

Clarendon College vs Glenmuir in the DaCosta Cup Final

Clarendon beat Garvey Maceo on penalties
Glenmuir beat Dinthill on penalties

 
XDFIX 2023-11-26 16:39:57 

In reply to FanAttick

The biggest double header in school boy football history - I hope ISSA milking every ounce from it in terms of revenue!

 
Chrissy 2023-12-02 23:05:39 

Champions Cup Final
CC 1 Glenmuir 1
Half time

 
Chrissy 2023-12-02 23:13:59 

CC down to 10
Glenmuir score from free kick
Great goal Gordon

2-1

 
Chrissy 2023-12-02 23:24:06 

CC melting down here
One red and three yellow and they play the same team in the big final next week

 
Chrissy 2023-12-02 23:43:07 

Big mistake CC keeper. Watson makes them pay.
3-1 Glenmuir.
Dis done

 
Chrissy 2023-12-02 23:57:59 

Stupid foul keeper
Penalty scored 3-2

Whistle now - Glenmuir wins the Champions Cup.

 
JoeGrine 2023-12-03 01:12:19 

In reply to Chrissy

Deservedly so. Congrats Glenmuir.

 
CWWeekes 2023-12-03 02:19:34 

In reply to JoeGrine

"Flagrans Veritatis Studio"

 
CWWeekes 2023-12-03 22:48:25 

Yes sir it might have taken over 50 years but good to see we are in the thick of things. My generation could only take pride in the fact that we never got a cricket score from VTech ala Dinthill. Here's a piece of history. In 1965 we lost 3-0 to the much vaunted VTEch in one leg of the D'Cup ,then there were 4 zones with return games and it made headlines on the Gleaner's Sports page the next day, Sunday. They said the score was such because someone had left a pipe running the previous night and so the field was wet and muddy (never saw the game). We got beaten 8-0 in the return leg. In my time we never got a double digit beating from Vere Tech.

Vere Tech weh yuh deh??
smilesmilesmile

 
Chrissy 2023-12-03 23:36:35 

In reply to CWWeekes
Strong alumni who value academics and sports

 
carl0002 2023-12-05 14:06:43 

In reply to Chrissy

What is this Champions Cup??

 
JoeGrine 2023-12-05 23:28:18 

In reply to carl0002

Top 4 Manning Cup and Top 4 DaCosta Cup teams

 
Chrissy 2023-12-08 23:28:01 

jC wins


And now Manning Cup Final

1-0 Mona

 
XDFIX 2023-12-09 01:11:04 

Mona 1 Hydel 0

Butler takes it home - good win Mona!

 
Chrissy 2023-12-09 01:16:13 

Congrats Mona High 1-0
Great season

 
camos 2023-12-09 01:31:42 

Is there still All Dacosta v All Manning and Oliver Schield?

 
JoeGrine 2023-12-09 10:51:52 

In reply to camos

There is definitely Oliver Shield (one game). The All-Manning vs All-DaCosta game returned last year after a few years break. Not sure if it will be played this year.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-09 23:51:37 

CC murdering Glenmuir
4-0
Half Time

 
Chrissy 2023-12-10 00:52:01 

6-:2

 
mikesiva 2023-12-10 10:34:49 

In reply to Chrissy and JoeGrine

Thanks for the updates.

At least JC won the Champions Cup.
smile

 
XDFIX 2023-12-10 10:52:53 

Let's all put some respect on Butler's name

Clarendon College will next face Manning Cup champions Mona High for the Olivier Shield, at Glenmuir’s field on Wednesday.


This match should be played at the stadium - big man thing!

ISSA misses out here in terms of gate receipts!

Teacher Hyde vs maverick Butler!

 
jacksprat 2023-12-10 14:20:31 

Di Teacha vs Di Conman!

Should be interesting!

 
FanAttick 2023-12-10 18:15:52 

In reply to jacksprat

Not nice…

Craigg Butler will continue to mad uunuu….

Haters gonna, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate….Taylor Swift

 
CWWeekes 2023-12-11 15:45:54 

In reply to XDFIX

Oliver Shield doesn't carry much prestige now? A now one-off game relegated to a school ground. Years ago the Oliver Shield final was next to a Test Match in spectator appeal. Hope ISSA/Sponsor(s) helping out with security costs etc. This game belongs in the stadium with a national tv audience; no concern for continuing/maintaining a tradition.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-11 17:19:28 

In reply to CWWeekes
THIS

 
XDFIX 2023-12-11 18:20:34 

In reply to CWWeekes

To be honest, I don't understand the thinking in the ISSA camp!

It's a missed opportunity to market school boy football locally and internationally!

 
JoeGrine 2023-12-12 01:21:34 

In reply to XDFIX

There are only four schools with big crowd draw for schoolboy football. JC, KC, Clarendon and StATHS. ISSA only make money from Champs and late round football games. Stadium rental can be prohibitive and Mona does not have the legacy to draw.

It has now been confirmed that the game will be at the stadium.

On a related note, congrats to Clarendon, Mona and Glenmuir (Champions Cup).

 
FanAttick 2023-12-12 12:34:44 

In reply to XDFIX

Prendy agrees that STATHS were robbed

 
camos 2023-12-12 17:18:32 

In reply to jacksprat

Butler was a very successful youth coach in NJ before he went back to Jamaica, he was an early coach for Tevon Gray and his twin brother.

 
camos 2023-12-12 20:15:49 

There are so many trophies now in schoolboy football, each competing school has a chance to win one!big grin

 
XDFIX 2023-12-12 23:32:44 

In reply to FanAttick

Butler said the ref confessed that Mona was badly done last year on the cusp of taking home the cup!

 
JahJah 2023-12-13 19:28:10 

Butler is a con man eh. I wonder if it's because he's not black enough.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-13 20:00:34 

Rooting for CC in the Olivier Shield starting at 4.00 yard time.
Mona High students must learn to behave demselves. Their disgraceful behavior after winning last week and this week’s invasion of JC cannot be tolerated.
Whip dem CC. None of this thug behavior must be tolerated.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-13 22:39:46 

Lovely goal Dixon 35 min 1st half
1-0 CC.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-13 23:40:09 

2-0 CC
gwan CC

 
Chrissy 2023-12-13 23:44:10 

3-0 CC
Lesson time.

 
Chrissy 2023-12-13 23:47:07 

4-0

 
XDFIX 2023-12-14 00:09:17 

CC is the better team fah sure!

CC's Dixon is boss - just as good as Whisper!

 
Chrissy 2023-12-14 00:19:19 

In reply to XDFIX
A fabulous young player. A big future awaits

 
JoeGrine 2023-12-14 10:11:20 

In reply to Chrissy

The best high school football player for the 2023 season.

 
nitro 2023-12-14 13:24:34 

In reply to Chrissy

A big future is possible for him. Very talented but at 18 he should have been in a professional setup by now.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-14 14:50:50 

In reply to nitro

I understand that Arnett Gardens not letting go of the young star, Dixon - he's the golden goose!

Butler has expressed interest in him!

 
XDFIX 2023-12-15 01:34:40 

Coach John Wall - our school boyz not ready

 
JoeGrine 2023-12-15 09:36:57 

In reply to XDFIX


I hope they don't chase him out of town for his "on point" remark. In the past 5 Manning Cup season there has been about four players that I thought were potential next level if properly guided:

Richards (KC)
Satchwell (StATHS)
Douglas (Clarendon)
Dixon (Clarendon)

None of them are the finished article with Stachwell having the best technical skills.

 
XDFIX 2023-12-15 23:11:00 

In reply to JoeGrine


kINGSTON, Jamaica – The Inter-Secondary Schools Sports Association (ISSA) has admitted to a significant referee error during the Walker Cup final penalty shootout between Jamaica College and St Andrew Technical High (STATHS) at the National Stadium last Friday.

In a statement, ISSA said the decision by match official Tyrone Robinson to order a retake of a spot kick during the penalty shootout was a mistake.