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AFTER THIS BEATDUNG?

ONE OF THE WORST EVER SA CAPTAINS WHO IS JUST THERE BECAUSE OF QUOTA. IF NOT FOR BOOVUMA SA WOULD HAVE BEEN IN FINAL.

In reply to bolls

Yes

In reply to TanteMerle

Has he? And what beatdown?

In reply to natty_forever

Not Yet.
The beat down by my Ozzies

For a team that people expects to score in the neighbourhood
of 350 to 400 when they bat first,
this is a beat-down.
At 24/4 and barely scraped 200.

I realized that Ozz struggled to make the runs,
But this was a beatdown.
Lucky for them, Ozz gifted a few wickets.
I understand if people do not think that this is a beat down.

In reply to bolls
Is he the worst captain because he is a black man? You have not grown much since leaving the motherland- we must interrogate Nicky and Vivek

Azam resigned as his team under-performed,
based on people's expectations of them.

People are looking at results instead of all circumstances.
Paks were lucky that rain intervened when they were awarded a victory via Duckworthless System in their 400 run chase.
Many games here in this WC demonstrated that it is hard to sustain an 8 runs per overs from the start,
Azam batting was negatively affected by cappo role.

Maybe he can return as cappo later in his career.

Ah doan care if ah get ban' but Bolls is a RACIST and many because they are unaware of their implicit biases even of dem owna self, blindly, unwittingly follow him dung di rabbit hole.
Yessiday a man seh Bavuma keeping out a better player Hendricks when Bavuma's ODI record is significantly better than Hendricks. Ah tell Yuh!!!

In reply to Brerzerk

I do not think that your statement necessitate a ban.
I think it necessitate schooling you, so here it come: -
Now that that is out of the way.

I think that you are myopic in your thinking.
Just because someone(people) think that Bavuma deserves dropping make he(them) racist.

Facts: -
Bavuma was cappo
He scored 145 runs in 8 innings
as an opener and average 18
His team failed to reach de finals

A further breakdown will show, (Top 20 only with over 350 runs):-
5 other RSA batmen scored over 350 runs
The closest team is Hindia wid 4
Then Ozz and Kiwisi wid 3

A further breakdown will show, again Top 20 only with limit of 13 wickets:-
Hindia had 5 bowlers
RSA and Ozz had 4 bowlers
Kiwi next wid 2

This analytics demonstrate that the top 4 teams were India, RSA, Oz and Kiwis.
They made semis and only 2 can make finals.
HOWEVER, however, however, however; (I hope you get it)
While the other teams had performing cappos,
only Bavuma failed and failed miserably

He should resign

Now how de hell that makes me a racist,

BTW: I am as black as they come.

In reply to TanteMerle

1st off I did not address anything to do with you and racism and I do not think my writing is ambiguous in any way. My mantra is do not just read but 'learn how to read'
Now that is out of the way, how the hell you spent time writing that nonsense and call it 'schooling?' Racism is when someone claims Bavuma whose ODI avg is higher than DeKock's and Miller a quota pick.
(Bavuma currently has the highest ODI avg of all Saffies playing and about a 10 run less s/r). RSA hardly ever, ever win matches when Rabada is not in form and new enforcer Nortje wasn't there to take over (his sr is 16!) Myopia is looking at Bavuma's batting only (indeed captaincy errors were made in the semi-final) rather than the horrid wicket-keeping fielding and below par Rabada as reasons for a semi-final loss. In fact apart from Lance Kluesner's fireworks decades ago this is RSA's best performance in any of their many semi-final losses.

In reply to TanteMerle

KMT. Oh I forgot, did you watch the game?

The general feeling in SA cricketing circles is that Temba should be the red ball (test Team) captain only. The issue isn't his acumen as a leader. Temba is an astute skipper. His problem (as is the case with that of other top-order batters in other teams, as shown up by this CWC) is his STRIKE RATE as an opening batsman in white-ball cricket. No longer can openers just lay a platform for the middle order to launch from. Intent has to be shown from the get-go in the opening power play ala Sharma, Gill, Warner, and Head to name 4 who come to mind. BOTH openers have to go at it. It is obvious that those top-order bats who have had success at the t20 game are the ones who have cut it at this WC. Unfortunately, Temba is not of that mould. His returns, even if he were batting at an 80+ SR affected the tempo of the team. It has been noted that EVERYONE ELSE in SA's batting lineup scored at least one 100 at beyond a run-a-ball and more tellingly DeKock scored more than 1 at up up-tempo rate opening the batting alongside him.

From an on-field perspective in CSA white ball cricket, Temba's tenure has to be reassessed post-World Cup. He has been a pretty good white ball batsman if AVERAGES are the primary metric. That is no longer the case as the influence of t20 batting gains a greater hold in the 50-over game. For Temba therein lies the rub. CSA's t20 franchises have had to make room for him because of who he is. BUT time and again his franchise fretted behind the scenes because they needed him to "get on with it or get out trying" a tough thing to ask your country captain and a leading batter to do.

Bavuma's plight for want of a better word is being mirrored in other players who are essentially good in technique and composure but who simply are time-takers as they build and construct an innings. In current-day white ball cricket, where INTENT is the latest buzz word those batsmen are at risk of being edged out by the more enterprising, risk-taking ball hitters.

In reply to cumberland

A very insightful balanced post.

In reply to Brerzerk

Wait, you are butt hurt because I pointed out Bavuma’s failure as a batsman and that makes me a racist? Take that chip of your shoulder, not everyone view the world through your lens.

As Tante points out facts are facts, deal with it.

https://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;host=6;orderby=batting_average;spanmin1=5+Oct+2023;spanval1=span;team=3;template=results;type=batting

In reply to Brerzerk

Your comment is that:-
Ah doan care if ah get ban' but Bolls is a RACIST and many because they are unaware of their implicit biases even of dem owna self, blindly, unwittingly follow him dung di rabbit hole.
Yessiday a man seh Bavuma keeping out a better player Hendricks when Bavuma's ODI record is significantly better than Hendricks. Ah tell Yuh!!!


I can read and this statements is not only implicit, but specific
to wit "and many because they are unaware of their implicit biases even of dem owna self, blindly, unwittingly follow him dung di rabbit hole".

Bolls, or anyone in agreement with him about Bavuma pending resignation
(base solely on this call for resignation) is not racist (consciously or subconsciously)

That is my thesis, my point, my response... to your accusation of racism.
My call and many others call for Bavuma's resignation is simply,
as I explained in my previous post.

While I do not disagree with Affirmative Actions methodologies,
I still think Bavuma should resign as ODI cappo.

I believe that RSA needs the affirmative actions typologies to
assist in bring some measure of equality to its cricket.
However, when someone under-performs, they should resign as cappo.

I can think of many instances of the cappo in the other 3 semifinalist
aiding their team to win a match or two or 3 or 4.
I honestly cannot think of one brilliant tactical move by Bavuma in this World Cup
I can think of 8 times his dismissal place the RSA in early crisis mode
Thanks to the brilliance of the other top order players
they recovered most of the times.

Bottom-line, back to my thesis, 'calling for Bavuma's resignation as cappo does not make one racist'
The justification is spelled out in my previous post.

It’s difficult to understand why creatures like bolls whom I met in Kamathipura and handles of the Venezuelan fatman can be so openly racist on a blog… they should bend down and do obeisance to an alien probe immediately…

In reply to TanteMerle

In reply to TanteMerle

Whether you think Bavuma should resign or not you should be ashamed of yourself for engaging and humouring the so called bolls

In reply to TanteMerle

By the way i dont think people think you are a racist because you share a view with the racist bolls.....but i suspect they consider you have the "typology" of a idiot

In reply to Logic

Tante Merle is Socafighter- he does not like people of that kind- he can’t help himself and his hate….

TanteMerle is a person who responds without knowing the fact, I wrote once on opening the batting at trials with one of his former teachers, and he quickly responded that it could not be so, my teacher was a bowler.
A few hours later after hearing about his teacher's earlier cricketing life, he apologized, I had him targeted from that time.

If they are looking at the next World Cup then maybe give Markram the captaincy.

Now QDeK has gone they can try a new openers and also another keeper, move on from va der Dussen and Miller.

Next odi squad could be:
J. Malan
T. De Zorzi
D. Brevis
A. Markram (c)
H. Klaasen
K. Verreyne (k)
A. Phehlukwayo
M. Jansen
K. Maharaj
G. Coetzee
K. Rabada
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T. Bavuma, W. Mulder, L. Ngidi, A. Nortje

In reply to KTom

Yes I am saying that.

I am also saying that he deserved the appointment.

In reply to Barry

Why don't you just go away or respond to the analytical justification for me agreeing with the resignation.
All this name-calling demonstrates that you cannot argue with the analysis.
Typical defenseless-loss-at sea lawyer's tactic,
when you cannot defend the evidence, attack the witness.

On second thought; Just go away.

In reply to TanteMerle

Yawn…

In reply to TanteMerle

Its how he defends himself

Everyone on this site is alien, socafighter, probing et al...

Now you realize he is lonely as all ignore him.

Jadee, problemjay reincarnated to be this individual and the same characteristics
attack the poster. Careful he will stalk you too.

The…MSM follows me on every thread- and I never call his name. He is thirsty for a man but I can’t swing that way… he has the cow… ah can’t go on no thread… S.A.D

In reply to TanteMerle

In reply to TanteMerle

Excellent analysis on this thread...no issues with Bavuma being in the squad...but making him a captain makes him undroppable....that makes it very difficult for the team in such a long league based tournament...Nortje injury really messed this team...

In reply to pooranian

He was a true leader….

In reply to bolls

In reply to Acid

Them going bunn down Rohit house after this final....

In reply to mikesiva

Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy

In reply to Acid



Roshit!

IPL champs
Like dem man who does be scoring 4 and 6 in nets during their self commentary

And can’t buy a run on Saturday

Bavuma had a poor tournament but the stats say he is a very good ODI batsman