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WI Academy vs Ireland Emerging - live

anthonyp 2023-12-02 13:44:49 

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anthonyp 2023-12-02 13:52:06 

Ireland won the toss and bowling first.

Chrissy 2023-12-02 13:56:19 

In reply to anthonyp

positiveg 2023-12-02 14:00:46 

Let's go team
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velo 2023-12-02 15:40:49 

Can you imagine if nandu chanderpaul and brathwaithe were in the same sideshock

Chrissy 2023-12-02 15:47:29 

Would someone anyone tell Springer et al to stop coaching, stop di blinking talk radio and describe di blasted game

PalsofMine 2023-12-02 16:01:23 

Bishop is an idiot. He does not have the mental strength to move up. Give the chance to someone else.

anthonyp 2023-12-02 16:09:45 

In reply to PalsofMine

Steups... Didn't he score 90 in the last match? And was one of the leading runs scorers in the 50 overs series?

Not bad for an idiot...

anthonyp 2023-12-02 17:03:51 

WI Academy 62-2 (32)

Nandu 33*
Anderson 5*

Keep batting youths

seaegg99 2023-12-02 17:19:31 

In reply to PalsofMine

He has been doing really well. Looks one to work with. Free scorer and been battling for a while. Lapse in concentration but was battling..

velo 2023-12-02 17:21:30 

These guys need more work on their mental game

openning 2023-12-02 17:53:55 

In reply to Chrissy

I have been commenting on his coaching for some time.
I have another beef with the lack of sprinkler systems, these are international grounds, and should be treated as such.

anthonyp 2023-12-02 17:54:22 

WI Academy 98-3 (43)

Anderson 27*
Wickham 12*

openning 2023-12-02 18:08:08 

Kevin, Kevin, Kevin.
The youngster needs help

Chrissy 2023-12-02 18:16:32 


anthonyp 2023-12-02 19:13:56 

WI Academy 148-4 (5cool

Anderson 39*
Young 31*

Chrissy 2023-12-02 19:19:33 

In reply to anthonyp

Had to mute the commentary - it sports talk radio

Chrissy 2023-12-02 19:28:22 

50 partnership

Discourse 2023-12-02 19:30:24 

Had to mute the commentary - it sports talk radio

Chrissy 2023-12-02 19:53:25 

Fifty fi Kevlon with a four
Young 45*

Four more fi Kev

Chrissy 2023-12-02 19:55:51 


And another plus 2.

anthonyp 2023-12-02 20:03:31 

In reply to Chrissy

Got to mute Springer big grin

WI Academy 200-4 (71)

Anderson 71*
Young 49*

Hoping Anderson convert this fifty to a big one... Some classy shots so far..

Chrissy 2023-12-02 20:03:53 

200 up with a Kevlon four
Anderson 71*
Young 49*

ray 2023-12-02 20:06:04 

Nice going by Kevlon

Chrissy 2023-12-02 20:06:08 

50* fi Young

Four more fi Kevlon. This youth can bat

Chrissy 2023-12-02 20:17:52 

100 partnership

velo 2023-12-02 20:34:00 

Now this is more like it

Chrissy 2023-12-02 20:35:35 

Young 80*
Anderson 83*

anthonyp 2023-12-02 20:38:42 

Young throws it away! Gone for 80.


Chrissy 2023-12-02 20:51:20 

In reply to anthonyp


Chrissy 2023-12-02 21:04:59 

Tucket gawn

velo 2023-12-02 21:05:39 

What was that shot from tuckett

Chrissy 2023-12-02 21:09:31 

Lawks Bishop -four overs to go. Tek yuh time

openning 2023-12-02 21:14:04 

Bishop is more balanced than most of Barbados' international players.
He should replace the Roboc Warrican.

Chrissy 2023-12-02 21:20:05 

Good ton dat Kev 101* (172)

Chrissy 2023-12-02 21:21:12 

Bishop gives it away.
Saw it coming. Stewwwps

openning 2023-12-02 21:43:20 

That is mature batsmanship by Anderson, the guys are talented, and help is needed if these youngsters want to play Red Ball Cricket.

anthonyp 2023-12-02 21:48:57 

In reply to openning

Bishop and Motara are Bim best spinners... Y'all selectors will continue to pick Warrican and the others ahead of them though.

Rivaldo Clarke should also be in this WI Academy squad... He is a better talent than Julian and Tuckett.

dayne 2023-12-02 21:54:22 

In reply to anthonyp

Is Rivaldo consistent with the bat by Caribbean standards?

openning 2023-12-02 22:45:35 

In reply to anthonyp

Bishop and Motara are Bim's best spinners... Y'all selectors will continue to pick Warrican and the others ahead of them though.

I am never one that is sold on looks, I grew up seeing the best of Barbados cricketers.
It was always hard watching Warrington bowled the same way every match, will little improvement, I remember writing, that if there was an accident on his way home, he would sit in his car, until everything was clear, he would never try a different road to get home.

PalsofMine 2023-12-02 23:58:05 

In reply to seaegg99

in reply to both you and Anthonyp, I went to Antigua to see these guys bat. Bishop has talent but is a bit scratchy at the beginning and that was a huge lapse to be playing those shots on the point of lunch. I think that perhaps he should bat at #4 rather than at #3. I do not think that he shows the skill as yet for #3 with the possibility of the new ball. Anderson appears to have a better temperament to weather the storm and come through on the other end. Kudos to him on the innings today but it is a real pity that for visa reasons he could not be in South Africa. I think that he is already above Academy standard and that challenge would have been so good for him.

anthonyp 2023-12-03 14:53:12 

Pitman, Thorne and Clarke in the XI... Yet the skipper takes the new ball again.

When will this shyte stop? Nobody at CWI can't correct this? Y'all expect to develop our young fast bowlers by not giving them a chance with the new ball?

Baje 2023-12-03 17:46:31 

In reply to anthonyp

Well..who is the coach?

Chrissy 2023-12-03 20:08:47 

What’s the score?

Chrissy 2023-12-03 20:12:01 


Chrissy 2023-12-03 20:13:05 


Chrissy 2023-12-03 20:13:45 


WIForever 2023-12-03 20:16:41 

In reply to Chrissy


WIForever 2023-12-03 20:19:01 

Akeeme Auguste on 74
Teddy Bishop on 45

Ireland Emerging were bowled out for 72

anthonyp 2023-12-04 15:42:59 

Link for day three

anthonyp 2023-12-04 15:45:21 

Academy 303-7 (69)

Wickham 97*
Clarke 12*

Lead of 557 runs

anthonyp 2023-12-04 15:50:32 

Wickham bring up his 2nd first class ton.... 102*


lead of 564.

Discourse 2023-12-04 15:53:08 

Nice KW

2nd FC century...keep going

anthonyp 2023-12-04 15:57:10 

Another 5fer for Tom Mayes.... 10 wickets in this match.

WI Academy 321/8d (71.2)

Wickham 106*

Ireland need 576 to win.

seaegg99 2023-12-04 16:00:18 

In reply to anthonyp

Some people need to see 5 - years of numbers to recognize talent. Others just give them an avenue to let the talent flourish.

Baje 2023-12-04 16:22:51 

In reply to anthonyp

Please invoke the mercy rule

Baje 2023-12-04 17:37:43 

s guy Tim Tector scored 4 ducks in 5 innings. I think his other score was 2

PalsofMine 2023-12-04 18:19:46 

Did WIA just do a little bazball thing against the poor Irish? The Irish were fairly ocmpetitive in white ball cricket but in red ball they are showing their lack of experience in a big way. I hope that they go back home having learnt something and are able to bring their standard of cricket up a few notches.

Chrissy 2023-12-04 19:54:24 

Dis done.
Good win West Indies Academy

imusic 2023-12-04 20:34:49 

Good job for WI players to pad stats against what passes for a FC team in Ireland.

positiveg 2023-12-04 20:40:11 

Congrats Windies Academy
We need more series like these home and away to assist the guys in playing on different pitches and become more experience cricketers

PalsofMine 2023-12-04 23:24:54 

In reply to imusic

India routinely does that against our senior team.

tc1 2023-12-05 00:24:50 

Need to do this against a better opponent.

openning 2023-12-05 12:29:18 

In reply to seaegg99

I knew David Murray had talent, I am also aware that Warrican is a talented player, because of certain demons David could not fulfill what a number of us knew he should accomplish, as for Warrican he needed help.
Hetmyer has plenty of talent, but would most teams stick with him in the ODI format?
Even the commies were saying, he should go overseas and work with coaches, a different environment, where he could see what it takes, to improve his game.

PalsofMine 2023-12-05 12:46:36 

Big up the WIA. Very clinical. Well coached, led and played. The Academy has had a great year of cricket over all and the guys should be very proud of their performances.

Certain questions remain for me: What is next? Is there any succession planning? I think that Young, Josh Bishop, Anderson and possibly Wickham are ready for the A team level. Probably Teddy Bishop should be considered as the next leader of the Academy team and hopefully it adds some maturity to his batting. I think that Jordan Johnson was rushed too quickly into the A team. There are clear benefits to be seen from going through the Academy stucture. I hope that he and Isai Thorne can be part of this structure next with possibly Junior Sinclair joining them. I think that Hayden Walsh would have been the best replacement for Anderson whose admin isssues need to be addressed as quickly as possible as he is too precious a player to be missing important tours.

The next steps for the Academy should involve tours abroad. I think that baby steps are still needed so I would be looking for Ireland, Zimbabwe and possibly Bangla first before moving up to a South Africa, Sri Lanka and the like. I would also encourage Netherlands and Afghanistan to come here. I think also that perhaps the Academy needs to play some matches on different islands and get out of their comfort zone at Coolidge. Possibly St Lucia and Grenada, where pitches have recently had some spice (no pun intended) may be good so that they start getting accustomed to playing in "foreign" conditions. I heard recently that they will be playing as one of the teams in the FC season. I have advocated this in the past. I would only caution that the pool of players be widened as in many cases these guys have not yet reached their peak strength and we do not want to injure them by having them play so many successive 4 day games

openning 2023-12-05 12:59:44 

In reply to PalsofMine

Apart from the captain, can you name three experienced international players, on the A team?
In most countries, you will find several international players in the A teams.
One reason is that these players need to work themselves back into form.
We tend to drop players quickly, or they are too old.
I still see these players, not moving their feet, Nyeem Young can hit the ball when it is in the slot, but balls a few inches or a foot from the slot, he reaches.
Wickham put his left foot out, at times he anticipated instead of watching the ball out of the bowler's arm and used his feet to get to the pitch.
A video was given to me after my first ten golf lessons, about 30 years ago, and ever since then, I understood the importance of video.

PalsofMine 2023-12-05 14:20:46 

In reply to openning
So from your observations, neither is yet ready for promotion to the A team. What about Anderson and Josh Bishop? any comments on those two? and also did you think that Johnson was ready for hte A team?

openning 2023-12-05 18:52:27 

In reply to PalsofMine

and also did you think that Johnson was ready for hte A team?

I posted about Johnson more than a week ago, saying not playing for Jamaica benefitted him, because of the leadership and training.
Johnson is still at the U19 stage, no one seems to know where he fits in, he was not selected for any of the teams, not even the WI Academy, it was a visa problem that got him to replace Kirk, on the A team.
I believe in consistency, Jordan Johnson has an appetite for runs, I just would like to see him, far away from the present JCA program.

So from your observations, neither is yet ready for promotion to the A team. What about Anderson and Josh

Fans usually get excited when a youngster gets selected, the development of the cricketer is more important than him making a team, we have been digging a grave for almost 25 years, and it is getting wider and deeper, discarding talent at the end of every season.
Kevin Wickham represented the Royals in the last Regional 4-day tournament, he batted 7 times, finished with an average of 15, played in the Headley/Weekes tournament, scored a ton, and became the talk of the town.
Show me the money, not a dollar bill.

WICFan 2023-12-05 19:37:20 

I'd like to see those in the Academy not involved with franchises become part of an Academy/CCC side that gets added to the FC Tournament.

While they're losing three or four players to franchises they can replace them with Jordan Johnson, Chemar Holder etc.

A reciprocal tour to Ireland or an away tour to the sub.continent should be the next step.

anthonyp 2023-12-05 22:45:35 

In reply to WICFan

According to the commentators the WI Academy team will be playing in the upcoming FC season.

Some of the U-19 guys will replace the ones picked for their regional sides.

WICFan 2023-12-06 16:23:22 

In reply to anthonyp

There was 3 or 4 given franchise contracts so they will need replaced if the Academy is in the tournament proper.