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List breakdown from the english speaking caribbean

In reply to velo

any surprise in those numbers?

Is Jamaica by far the largest by land mass and population in The English speaking Caribbean and one of the closest?

Not surprising when in the US, every person of African descent is considered to be Jamaican, most popular non-Caucasian country in US.

In reply to Slipfeeler

True dat!

remember there are almost as many Jamaicans in the US as there are in Jamaica.

In reply to Slipfeeler

Correction, on earth!

In reply to Slipfeeler

It has been my experience that in order to benefit off the popularity and/or notoriety of Jamaicans..... many of our West Indian cousins pretend to be Jamaican in the USA.

Don't be surprised if the number of Jamaicans to be deported decreases when a few wanabees are discovered to be Trini, Bajan, Guyanese or even Nigerian.

In reply to Trex
I knew this guy that is from US Virgin Islands (St Thomas) said he was doing time for drugs and when the time was up, they were processing him to ship to Jamaica, said most of his time in jail he spent with Jamaicans.

In reply to camos

I guess whether good or bad we seem to be always in the majority. Same in cases of the number of minority law students and medical students, Jamaicans lead the way, so I guess the same among prison populations.

In reply to Slipfeeler

pretty much, the good, the bad and the ugly!

In reply to camos,Slipfeeler,Trex
The BIG question / Concern is what and how the Holiness government is going to
deal with these people ..5k is a huge number especially if they are returning with no
housing ,not to mention jobs for them

In reply to hubert

Expect some of them to seek opportunities in other countries. T

Did anyone read the document in the link? It’s a list of people subject to deportation, but not in custody. So it predates Trump. One thing that was really puzzling to me was that the USSR is listed as one of the countries. Seems like that list has been around forever or some of the people on the list have been there forever.

It’s so embarrassing and condescending to watch Duffy, new US Transportation Secretary and also the incoming FBI Director all pandering to Trump.

Now Trump blaming diversity in the DEI for the accident , then switched to blaming the helicopter pilot without proof.

In reply to Walco

Yes, I noticed that point, I was telling a friend just yesterday that a figure of 15000 would not surprise me, i.e. people who are here illegally but not yet ordered to leave.

In reply to Trex

Please stop it.

In reply to tc1

The truth cannot be denied nor stopped.

In reply to Trex

It's the opposite, Jamaicans have been using T&T passports for ages, so much so T&T was warned to adress the problem or face visa requirements to enter the UK. Why would a Trini or anyone with a stronger passport want a Jamaican passport, that's not how it works in real life, sorry .

In reply to Trex

That seems a sure bet Those tagged as criminals should be of
major concern and may have options reduced and could pose problems on the local scene.
Hope not.

In reply to Trex

they are a certain stigma associated with people carrying a certain passport from certain countries and in the caribbean jamaica and for the last few years trinidad that customs authorities pay special attention to .considering jamaicans need a visa to go to the uk and america that can be checked right away to tell who is from where

In reply to bravos

Jamaicans call themselves Jamaicans no matter what passport they have.

Why would a Jamaican call himself a trini and then have to explain to persons outside the Caribbean that Trinidad is not another parish in Jamaica?

In reply to Trex

I see you got that line in.

Hope it resonates with bravos.

In reply to Trex

In reply to Trex

As a Trini in Hingland I wudda pass that Jamaican/lingo test easy.I have been told on 3 ocassions that I sound like Bob Marley,once in a Bank, Jamaican bloke behind me said ,he could have sworn it was Bob Marley voice he was hearing when I was talking to the Teller.
The truth is I am not trying to "put it on",sometimes some people ask If I am Muddie.

In reply to granite

I mixed up a Trini and GT once in NY...But the Antiguan and Costa Rican are very
easy to pass for J'can at least from my experience and dealing with them.The intonation
when speaking standard English is the same.
Maybe it still is where the Antiguan is concerned.

Well yes!

In reply to hubert

The Costa Rican is quite likely a second-generation Jamaican.

In reply to hubert

The good thing is nobody doesn't have to ask me where I'm from,dem know straight away Jamaica,dem wrong but no problem.

In reply to granite

In reply to camos

Yes.More than second generation. I got relatives/descendants on Maternal side there from the late 19th century.
Encountered some Jamaican connected ones in NYC in the early 70s and it was revealing...not a hint of spanish
in their accent.
Their soccer player Campbell is of Jamaican heritage. I think he still plays and is a veteran on their team.

In reply to hubert

Campbell and Wauchope, there is another name that I can't remember right now, I have been there twice but have never gone to the town of Lemon where most of the people are of Jamaican origins.

In reply to bravos

Let me try and make this as clear and succinctly as possible to you, whether in North America or Europe, no one cares which Caribbean passport you posses, all they see is a black man and our passport is worthless as far as they are concerned. I have seen Trinidadians just like Jamaicans thrown off the the plane or even Greyhound buses when agents check buses.

One T&T family recently in New York received over 400 years imprisonment for fraudulent activities, no Judge or District Attorney recognize your “power T&T passport” and it cannot help them.

We have allowed neocolonialism to continue to divide us as Caribbean people. The only place in the world where we should consider as important for our passport is the on the Motherland, Continent of Africa, where with a Jamaican passport no visas are required for most African countries. Instead of slapping your chest proudly to enter white countries, we should we working together to ensure that all Caribbean citizens are allowed to enter the Motherland Visa-free. As you and I already know that our passports means nothing to immigration officers in Northern America or Europe .

Caribbean coast of Central/ South America( perhaps Vene excepted) has close accents to us. That includes Garafuna and Mesquite peoples. When The Brits dumped Afro-Caribs in the sea dem land all over, Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador... dem though not descended from Yardies speak the same Patois and with same accent as us. Black Mesquite peoples are possibly those who "Came befo' Come- Buss-Us" and native mix" They too sound like us. There are accounts of The British trading with them from 17th century. My Dad told me an Uncle ( my grand-uncle) went to Panama and no.one ever heard from him again. I met a Costa Rican guy- his Grandma from yard started on a Bacardi sugar estate in Cuba and finally ended up in Bluefields Nicaragua. His Grandad started in Panama and ended up in Nicaragua, they settled in Costa Rica and the fella said he grew up eating Renta Yam and Jackfruit from their backyard.
I knew Grace Kennedy's Raph Diaz who was an Hispanic native from Belize, his accent was almost 100% Yard, don't know if it was length of residency

In reply to camos

Limon could be a good experience if you ever return for a visit. Substantial Jamaican heritage there
from what I was told.
With all that's going on with Trumpy ,it is perhaps prudent that I make some plans to relocate. CR is
is a wonderful place..got everything that JA has in terms of climate,fruits etc and more of them

If ICE comes for me,I will ask to be sent there and hope they do. Can't handle JA anymore.

BTW, Wauchope (pronounced Wahh) may be related to folks in Fellowship Hall/Mango Valley, Stewart Town
area of St.Mary. Many by that strange name are in that area and when I taught school in that area, a few
kids told me the pronounciation..the 60s seem so so long ago.

In reply to hubert

My very good friend form Albert Town Trelawny has that last name, pronounced "Waup"

In reply to camos

Yup..heard it pronounced like Waugh as in the Aussies Test twins.
Uncommon name in JA