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HEADLINE: Brian Lara calls for major changes in the way West Indies cricket is run

 
CaribbeanCricket.com 2014-09-23 08:02:29 

The former West Indies batsman has major concerns about the team and wants to see better organisation, especially before they face England in a three-Test series in the Caribbean next spring.

"For me, West Indies' problems don't lie with the players," Lara said. "It's far deeper than that, with the organisation, what they are doing to enhance our cricket from a very low level.


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natty_forever 2014-09-23 08:23:31 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

"What you see on the surface, it's what our cricket is all about, which is not a lot of fabric in it. Until we start doing that -then you can look at the players and make them responsible for their performances.
... long time natty a tell them BCL.

 
sudden 2014-09-23 09:03:16 

In reply to natty_forever

There is nothing to that story. With just that bit how can anyone agree or disagree.

 
laynew 2014-09-23 11:13:36 

In reply to sudden


The question is - Will Chrissy agree with everything Lara said - OR simply die because he backed Cook (an ENGLISH MAN!!!!) big grin big grin

 
smuggler 2014-09-23 12:17:07 

What a nothing story.

 
POINT 2014-09-23 12:37:25 

Well it seems that Brian Lara , a man with much more knowledge about Cricket
agrees with what I have continuously
stated in this Forum for years .

The fact is our Players are setup to fail , so that they can be severely criticized ; while those who are really responsible escape criticism .

Once again let me cite Stanford's Cricket Board , whose performances regarding their stewardship of the
Twenty / 20 Tournament . This Board laid the groundwork for our Players &
Team winning the World Cup in this format of the game .

It must be stated Worst International Cricket Board , aka the WICB cannot claim that it played a role in making that happen .

However many of those in the Region who masquerade as Sports Journalists , and those brainwashed by the WICB
have yet to acknowledge this fact .

What Stanford's Cricket Board proved is that it unlike the Emperors in the WICB recognized what needed to be done to make their Players fully competitive in International Cricket .
Unfortunately the WICB is still floundering in the dark .Currently they are talking a good game , however talk is cheap .

Unless the Issues I have stated in this Forum are seriously addressed , they are simply going to attempt spinning top in mud .

WE have talented Players , but their talents need to be harnessed , honed & enhanced . Talking about the Regional Tournament without addressing what I have stated in other Posts & Threads in this Forum will never improve Cricket in the Region or make our Players as competitive as they can be in the International Cricket Arena .

" PROPER PREPARATION PREVENTS

PISS POOR PERFORMANCES "

 
carl0002 2014-09-23 12:46:23 

I think POINT is the ToldUso of the rum shop.

lol lol lol

 
sudden 2014-09-23 12:50:56 

In reply to carl0002

And the thing is, Point is like a broken pencil- pointless

 
jacksprat 2014-09-23 13:10:26 

In reply to sudden & carl0002

And for you having the temerity to disagree with Pointeless' belaboring of the point, he will probably accuse yo of suffering from "la turrette" !!big grin big grin

 
WestDem 2014-09-23 13:26:42 

In reply to POINT



Tell dem rass again....Point taken!!! lol lol

 
carl0002 2014-09-23 13:30:31 

In reply to sudden

ToldUso at a minimum is usually entertaining.

Can't say the same for pointless POINT


lol lol lol

 
natty_forever 2014-09-23 13:51:39 

In reply to sudden... caan speak for you bro ... not surprised still at your answer. Guess you have no idea what's wrong with West Indies cricket.

 
natty_forever 2014-09-23 13:53:13 

In reply to POINT... the delusional brigade will criticize you ... see a few of them here, a front.

 
sudden 2014-09-23 13:55:53 

In reply to natty_forever

I don't know definitively but I know that just like the article you know for sure and you are willing to tell us point by point and equally offer point by point solutions. Go ahead, you have the floor

 
natty_forever 2014-09-23 13:57:25 

In reply to sudden...See POINT.

 
sudden 2014-09-23 13:58:49 

In reply to natty_forever

You have the floor. Let's see yours point by point

 
Cleg 2014-09-23 14:17:04 

In reply to natty_forever

I like your `posts`....most of them anyway!

What I would like to know though is...how did you ever support Ganga? lol

 
carl0002 2014-09-23 14:37:42 

In reply to sudden & natty_forever
Never mind Natty, he don't need a point by point analysis. He go tell u we are 1 sports psychologist away from being world beaters.

lol lol lol

 
natty_forever 2014-09-23 14:40:08 

In reply to Cleg... let me clarify, I supported keeping the 'seasoned' players ... while we established a development process to replace these fellows. Ganga and Devon Smith I would have stuck with, until the 'Paints' developed.

Xman would probably now be playing if I had my way.

 
natty_forever 2014-09-23 14:40:56 

In reply to carl0002... if Otis and all the other coaches did listen ... his record would be much better than how it ended. so gwaan laaf.

big grin

 
natty_forever 2014-09-23 14:43:34 

Otis is just the casualty of the weak organization called the WICB.

 
Cleg 2014-09-23 14:53:59 

In reply to natty_forever

I supported keeping the 'seasoned' players


Fair enough!

 
jballer84 2014-09-23 15:08:30 

In reply to POINT

I agree with you 100 percent. The only problem is the people in charge will not make these radical changes as it will expose how inept they have been. Sadly, they are not motivated to have a world beating team as it does not necessarily enhance their selfish agendas.

 
TheTrail 2014-09-23 16:08:27 

In reply to natty_forever

In reply to carl0002... if Otis and all the other coaches did listen ... his record would be much better than how it ended. so gwaan laaf.


Did XMan played or even consider playing when Otis was the coach?

 
Baje 2014-09-23 16:35:54 

In reply to natty_forever

So what do you think of the Pybus plan?

 
Fivestar 2014-09-24 01:32:45 

In reply to CaribbeanCricket.com

I would agree with Lara our cricket has to be better organised and it seems to be moving in that direction. However, I would disagree the players are not to be blamed. Some of our players, not all mind you, just don't use their heads.

There have been matches were we had fast bowlers trying to be hostile on a docile pitch only to be flogged mercilessly. Meanwhile, the fast bowlers on the other team bowled a proper line and length and their team won the match by an innings.

Over the years we've had some veteran fast bowlers who couldn't figure out each pitch is different and thus requires a particular length which suits that pitch.

 
POINT 2014-09-24 14:25:11 

In reply to natty_forever

The Jackasses in this Forum will always Bray . By now you would have noticed that none of them can refute what I have continuously stated in this Forum .

I find it comforting that Brian Lara can restate what I have stated many times in this Forum ; is not considered
as being pointless , but I am .

The funny thing is that among the Rabble is a Lawyer .That profession apparently has sunk to a new low .

 
POINT 2014-09-24 14:44:11 

In reply to Fivestar

I invite you to check the number of matches our Players have played Regionally and Internationally , and compare those stats to those of Players on Teams ranked above our Team . The disparity is exceedingly stark .

Please also give consideration to the
preparation of our Players versus the preparation of Players on Teams ranked
above our Team .

If you are honest you will come to the realization that our Players play
less Cricket than their counterparts on Teams ranked above our team .

This aint no trifling matter , because it impacts on Stamina Mental & Physical ; the ability to concentrate for long periods ; and the ability to pace an innings .

Together these are key components that separate winners from losers . My belief is that these skills can only harnessed ; honed & enhanced
by playing a lot of Cricket . layers are not born or endowed with these skills .

THEY HAVE TO BE LEARNED ; AND THERE AINT NO SHORTCUT . The only method that I am aware of that Players can get these skills is by playing a lot of Cricket . If by chance you know of another method please let me know what it is .

 
openning 2014-09-24 15:24:21 

Anyone who think just playing more matches or having more camps will improve players, has not been following regional cricket for sometime.
Playing three rounds against Leewards or and some other teams will not improve cricketers.
Playing ten test, twenty ODI in a year against Bangladesh, Canada, Scotland or Kenya will not make or batsman or bowlers better.
It is the individual preparation, marlon Samuel prepared for two years, his return to the team, he orgot after scoring over 800 runs on his return.
Viv and other after County did not return to the Rumshops when they were at home, they worked on the game.
It is the players who has to do the work and prepare themselves for International cricket

 
POINT 2014-09-24 15:26:34 

In reply to natty_forever

The Jackasses in this Forum will always Bray . By now you would have noticed that none of them can refute what I have continuously stated in this Forum .

I find it comforting that Brian Lara can restate what I have stated many times in this Forum ; is not considered
as being pointless , but I am . The funny thing is that among the Rabble is a Lawyer .

 
openning 2014-09-24 15:33:50 

In reply to POINT

Point, did you hear Jacobs speaking of Lara, why you think a player would want to run-out the best player?
I would only listen to Lara, if he is talking about batting, he has failed to unite his fellow players, and did everything to undermined the Richie, when he was captain
I peter hearing from Wes, llyod and Viv, these guys were leaders of men.

 
POINT 2014-09-24 15:51:44 

The Genesis of the downward slide of Cricket in this Region started in the mid 1980's when England decided to an ALL Overseas Players from playing Cricket in England .

It is true that the downward spiral was not fast or sudden . Many in this Forum & in the Region have failed to take into account the fact that when the ban was imposed . It instantaneously made most of our Players who were playing Cricket Full time into Part time Cricketers .

In essence , our Players when not engaged in the Regional Tournaments or representing the Region Internationally ; were essentially idle .

Obviously this had & has a tremendous negative impact on the state of Cricket in the Region ; and also the competitiveness of our Players in the International Cricket Arena , particularly in the longer versions of the game .

One of the benefits in playing Cricket n England , is that batsmen quickly learned that it is essential to middle the ball or perish .

This is due to the fact that balls move about in the air & off the Pitches ; this doesn't happen much in the Region with perhaps the exception of Trinidad , where due to the Oil Refineries , the atmosphere is heavier than in other Countries in the Region .

By being able to ply their trade in England , all of our Players who played professional Cricket in England learned what is entailed in being a Professional Cricketer .

The other Countries whose Players were banned were luckier . They could Play County ; League or State Cricket . It must also be noted that because of these various avenues that their Players can harness ; hone & enhance their skills ; their standard of Cricket is higher than the standard in the Region .

 
POINT 2014-09-24 16:00:59 

I would like my critics to give an opinion on what methods did Stanford's Cricket Board employ to transform their Players to be very competitive in the format of the game ; Twenty / 20 ,that
they were in the governance Regionally . Yet the Regional Boards & the WICB ,
have not been as successful in making our Players fully competitive in the longer versions of the game .

The success of our Players in the shortest version of the game is due to the Stewardship of Stanford's Cricket Board . NOT the Regional Boards or the WICB .

 
tc1 2014-09-24 16:02:43 

In reply to POINT

One of the benefits in playing Cricket n England , is that batsmen quickly learned that it is essential to middle the ball or perish
.


you have to do this all the time or you perish, whether you in st. Vincent or england

 
openning 2014-09-24 16:06:38 

In reply to tc1

The guy is a historian, he will in the next 40 years, writing about the reason Sammy won the T20 WC.

lol lol

 
openning 2014-09-24 16:09:10 

In reply to POINT
How many matches do you think a team should win, before you comment on team, management or anything related to that organization.

 
POINT 2014-09-24 16:36:56 

In reply to tc1

That is obvious , the point I am making , is that because the ball moves about a lot in England conditions . Players eventually learn to enhance their abilities of playing Cricket with the ball coming off the middle of the bat .

I really didn't think that you would have to be spoon fed ; but apparently I was wrong .

 
tc1 2014-09-24 16:48:21 

In reply to POINT named me ONE good batsman from the 60,70 or 80 than made runs in the Caribbean and did not make the same or more in ENGLAND.

 
openning 2014-09-24 17:29:08 

In reply to tc1

Anyone, including Point can have a theory or a belief.
The West Indies had great players before county cricket, Lance Gibbs is one of the greatest to play cricket, which county did he played for and how long?
It is true that some of our guys improve by playing professional cricket in England, many others were passengers.
Cricket was a full time job to most of this group, Chanderpaul maybe the only player, that has that kind of mentality in his DNA

 
Larr Pullo 2014-09-24 17:36:09 

In reply to openning

Gibbs had a few seasons for Warwickshire....when he got there he had already played 34 tests and had 151 test wickets.

 
Dan_De_Lyan 2014-09-24 17:58:17 

Lara wants to be relevant because Shiv mashing up his untouchable record

 
Pacy 2014-09-25 03:33:14 

In reply to Dan_De_Lyan

big grin big grin big grin

That is Funny.

 
POINT 2014-09-25 17:42:31 

In reply to jballer84

I agree with everything that you have stated .Especially when you stated that the reason why they refuse to divert from their modus operandi , is that doing that would forever expose their incompetence , ineptness and crass stupidity .

They have decided that the best course of action , is to arrange & rearrange the Managers , the Coaches , Captains & Players , with the hope and expectation that they will get lucky one day . ALL these changes are Machiavellian tactics to divert attention from their poor stewardship .
The problem however is that aint ever going to raise the standard of Cricket in the Region or make our Players as competitive as they can be
in the International Cricket Arena .

Sadly most of those in the Region who claim to be Sports Journalists are willingly participants in this shameful charade .