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Gidron Pope will probably not get to play for Windwards...

 
voiceofreason 2016-01-31 08:37:05 

...While mediocre players like Liam Sebastien and Miles Bascombe get game after game on a perennial basis. Here is a young man who was selected by the Zouks but not selected by Windwards for the PCL. I hope he gets picked up by Leewards Hurricanes.

 
ponderiver 2016-01-31 08:50:38 

In reply to voiceofreason

The Pope has come to bless us

Pope must play !!

Justice for his Holiness !!
twisted twisted twisted

 
Raggs 2016-01-31 08:59:58 

In reply to voiceofreason

Lambert looking kind of guy...he needs to...

 
FanAttick 2016-01-31 09:08:38 

In reply to Raggs

Reminds me of Ridley Jacobs...

 
POINT 2016-01-31 09:13:40 

In reply to voiceofreason

As I have stated in this Forum before , the Windward Islands Cricket Board is absolutely the WORST CRICKET BOARD IN
THE REGION .

Currently it is run by the Dominica
Cricket Mafia , so do not expect Pope
to play for the Windwards , the Mafia
loves to wallow in Mediocrity .


So Liam Sebastien is going to be on the Windward Islands Team for a long time .
Frankly , Emmanuel Stewart ; Pope &
other promising Youngsters from the
Windward Islands talents are in Jeopardy with this current Bunch .

 
Raggs 2016-01-31 09:18:21 

In reply to FanAttick

Reminds me of Ridley Jacobs...

I see where your coming from..maybe it's puppy fat but he does have this way about him being confident about his game. Chris Gayle is his hero and with that a certain swagger should be in his game.

 
ponderiver 2016-01-31 09:24:58 

In reply to POINT


Currently it is run by the Dominica
Cricket Mafia
yuh betta run !!!! Crapaud gine smoke yuh pipe

 
voiceofreason 2016-01-31 09:36:39 

In reply to Raggs

Lambert looking?

Lol. Allyuh looking company for Fatbert.

Ridley Jacobs look alike yes. Lambert???

 
Drapsey 2016-01-31 09:55:50 

In reply to voiceofreason

I hope he gets picked up by Leewards Hurricanes.

They'll have to get rid of Samuels and or Bonner first.

 
voiceofreason 2016-01-31 10:19:05 

In reply to Drapsey

Samuels is not part of the Hurricanes, I think you are confusing the Patriots (CPL) and the Hurricanes( PCL).

We will have to keep Bonner.

 
Commie 2016-01-31 10:29:53 

Maybe you need to consider that without the same Windwards Board they wouldn't have 4 u19 players in the WI squad for the first time. Or that all of Pope, John, McCoy and Stewart have been together since u15 days.

Or that Mervyn Matthew, Delorn Johnson, Johnson Charles, Fletcher,Devon and Kenroy Peters all went into the Windwards team after youth cricket. Windwards also tried to fast track Ray Jordan right after u19 but then his action came under scrutiny and he was sent to rehab. Preston Mcsween went to the Barbados team and they haven't played him.

Liam Sebastien was the MVP of the last Windwards tournament so despite many Windwards fans wanting him gone he pulled a Houdini

Sometimes I wonder which cricket you all purport to follow. If you don't know what happening then ask first rather than expose your lack of knowledge.

I am a big advocate of Kavem Hodge who was an outstanding u19 player and played for WI u19 and has lit up the BCA but unfortunately he has stunk up the joint everytime he got a chance.

The other player who I have a lot of time for is Dalton Polius but he was injured last year.

Maybe Vor would do better tracking Leewards under 19 players than stabbing at guesses at what is going on in Windwards Cricket.

Windwards has a better record of converting u19 players into FC players. Whether they then stick is usually up to their work ethic and the coaching.

 
ponderiver 2016-01-31 10:38:57 

Over to you Point

see the full transcript of Don Commie's report !!! big grin big grin big grin

 
doosra 2016-01-31 10:42:09 

is he related to Uzzah?

 
Commie 2016-01-31 10:44:09 

In reply to ponderiver

You and Point probably live in the same compound. big grin

 
POINT 2016-01-31 11:07:55 

In reply to ponderiver

I guess that by your remarks ,You mean the Comess Man :

" TRUTH CRUSHED TO THE GROUND WILL

ALWAYS RISE AGAIN " .

All that I have stated in this Forum
are FACTS , NO ONE has factually refuted what I have ever stated in this Forum .

I would like the Windwards Cricket Board to explain why Kenroy Peters
was not in the Squad , granted he is a Medium Pace Bowler , but apart from
taking Wickets , the other main objective is being miserly regarding keeping down runs .

When I state that the Windward Islands Cricket Board is the Worst
Cricket Board in the Region , I am very , very serious .

This is why I fear for Emmanuel Stewart ; Gidron Pope et al . Currently I slowly getting to think ,
that Promising Youngsters , who have relatives outside the Windward Islands need to serious consider going outside of the Windward Islands .

Frankly , the Stewardship of WICBC is so bad , that it seems oblivious to the Stewardship of the Windwards Cricket Board , so these adages comes
to my mind :

" POT CANNOT CALL THE KETTLE BLACK "

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER "

 
voiceofreason 2016-01-31 11:08:08 

In reply to Commie

Maybe you need to consider that without the same Windwards Board they wouldn't have 4 u19 players in the WI squad for the first time. Or that all of Pope, John, McCoy and Stewart have been together since u15 days.

Or that Mervyn Matthew, Delorn Johnson, Johnson Charles, Fletcher,Devon and Kenroy Peters all went into the Windwards team after youth cricket. Windwards also tried to fast track Ray Jordan right after u19 but then his action came under scrutiny and he was sent to rehab. Preston Mcsween went to the Barbados team and they haven't played him.


Unearthing the talent at U-19 is not the issue here. It is about giving that talent the necessary exposure and playing time so they can develop. The English U-19 players are either in their 1st or 2nd string county sides and play regularly. For several years Sunil Ambris played for CCC and probably would be still playing for them had it not been for their removal from the tournament. Kavem Hodge suited up for CCC as well but now is not in any of the teams. Delorn Johnson had to wait a while to get a break as Deighton Butler, Kenroy Peter and Pascal were cemented in the team. Then we wonder why our talent fail to develop after U-19???

Liam Sebastien may have been MVP at some obsolete 2 day tournament in Dominica but the fact remains he has as much a chance of making the West Indies Senior team as I have of a menage a trois with Beyoncé and Nicki Minaj. I used to follow the tournament, even bring the results here but it is poorly promoted so I do not even know when it is held. What is our objective here? Not getting talent into the West Indies team? If that is not the objective then play Sebo, play. I know Dominicans who are perplexed at why Sebastien is in every single format for Windwards.

 
tc1 2016-01-31 11:10:52 

In reply to Commie

where is the compound, below grade?

 
ponderiver 2016-01-31 11:13:27 

In reply to tc1

yuh nuh have nuh shame !!???

yuh run from the Beckles thread faster than sudden when he spots a fridge !!

 
Commie 2016-01-31 11:23:37 

In reply to voiceofreason

Vor....please stick to Leewards. Ambris played for Windwards senior before nearly all his counterparts for their FC teams except for Pooran.

Deighton Butler played 15 - 17 years ago. What are you talking about. Maybe you are referring to Peters who has played a lot for Windwards but when he was kept out was kept out by his own countrymen !

Devon Smith played for Windwards the season after he returned from u19.

Delorn didn't have to wait. Mervyn Matthew did after he was reported for his action. You are all over the place.

The fact remains the Windward islands tournament is the same tourney that picks players at every level for representative teams. If you don't do well in it you won't be picked.

 
POINT 2016-01-31 11:24:02 

In reply to voiceofreason

I admire you , for responding to the
WICBC & WINDWARDS CRICKET BOARD
Apologist in Chief .

He has to come and defend the Indefensible on each and every time
that I am critical of the WICBC & the
Windwards Cricket Board .

I have no idea whether or not he is getting paid or not , but he has to show up on each and every time I am critical of them .

HE has to show them that he is on the job , defending them . In this Forum
as I have stated , if that is what he
wants to do that is his Right . It is also my Right to be critical of the
WICBC & the Windwards Cricket Board .

Obviously he supports those who are married to an 89 year old Structure .
I am not , I joined this Forum to support those who like me are of the
opinion that the Structure of Cricket in the Region needs to have serious Structural changes .

The major part of what is wrong with Cricket in the Region is due to the People on the WICBC clinging to the
Structure that has been in place since 1927 . THEY do not want to be brought into the 21st Century , they ALL worship the 1927 Structure .

That includes their APOLOGIST who frequents this Forum . The reason why they will all Fight Tooth & Nail to
keep the current Structure in place is that they are afraid that changing the current 89 years old Structure ,
is that they are afraid that changing the Structure , will mean a dilution
of the Power they currently enjoy .

 
Commie 2016-01-31 11:25:31 

Btw to Point.

Peters has been out injured. I actually met him on a flight from Bim and he explained that he was advised to rest until the restart of the FC season. He hopes to be available for selection then.

Form your conspiracy still though. Fertile ground awaits.

 
navindesigns 2016-01-31 11:30:20 

this has some SERIOUS talent

 
tc1 2016-01-31 11:31:03 

In reply to ponderiver

the article was trash, it attacked Hilary, Erskine and Owen.all outstanding men from the north.
Sudden from the south. lol

 
voiceofreason 2016-01-31 11:53:02 

In reply to Commie

Ambris did play for CCC first in T20 in 2013. It was not in FC. Butler kept out Peters for a while. Johnson may not be playing if Pascal was fit. Where is Kavem Hodge? What about Donwell Hector? Dawnley Grant?

It is amazing that a Poster who talks so incessantly about scouting for talent and giving them a chance that you are defending the perennial failures yet sure picks of Sebastien and Bascombe.

 
navindesigns 2016-01-31 12:06:02 

is he related to Uzzah Pope (the former WI wicketkeeper)

 
Commie 2016-01-31 12:38:21 

In reply to voiceofreason

Grant was injured for some time and lost his place in the St Vincent team. Kavem played THIS YEAR for Windwards. Donwell Hector got multiple opportunities and stunk up the joint.

You keep on talking but players like Bascombe keep on turning up for their island teams and keep on turning up at tournaments. Many of these other players literally stop playing.

This is Ambris second full season of FC cricket and he already has gone on tour. This is two years after he came from u19.

What more do you want ? Unless you follow these players you don't realize how difficult it is for you to get those guys to keep focus.

Delorn was on verge of WI team and was so woefully unfit that he had to go back to basic physical training. Nelon Pascal is another who struggles with injuries and Mervyn could not get into the team because of those two about 3 years.

Personal responsibility is key.

When Liam is gone there will be another player who will stick because they regularly turn up for practice and tournaments.

 
openning 2016-01-31 15:01:17 

In reply to voiceofreason

Bro, it is time you to think of Franchise, instead of calling the team the Windwards.
The CPL is getting it right, lets hope the PCL do the same.

 
POINT 2016-01-31 15:14:07 

Rather than babbling about what the WICBC & the Windwards Board did , Focus must be on what they did not do . It
is what they did not do why Cricket in the Region is PISS POOR .

There is ample evidence to support what
I have stated . Now the latest Public pronouncement from the WICBC is that
it is Flush with Cash . This is the
First time that I am hearing this
apart from the 2007 World Cup .

Frankly , in my opinion , this is just another of the WICBC Charades ,
designed to sway Public Opinion , on its side in its current dispute with the Regional Governments who want them fired .

It is a desperate gamble to try ensuring that it can still be married
to the archaic 89 years old Structure ; because they believe that any change to the 1927 Structure will dilute the Power they currently possess .

Cameron & Co can demonstrate that
they indeed are flush with Cash by doing the following things ;

1. ALL Promising U-19 Players will
attend the best Cricket Facilities
in the Region for 9 months .

2. Men / Women Teams representing
the Region in International
Matches must have 3 weeks Camps .

3. The Regional Pitches must be
be properly prepared for Regional
& International Matches .

4. Some of the Regional Umpires are
Substandard , Fix that problem .

Doing these things will prove to me that YOU are serious about improving Cricket in the Region . BTW , the above cannot be a One time deal ; It
must be Ongoing .

Frankly the WICBC has absolutely no credibility , because it has on several occasions commissioned
Reports and ignored the salient features of those Reports . So then
what the Hell was the purpose of
commissioning these Reports ???

I sincerely hope , although I doubt that you can provide a satisfactory
answer to the Regional Governments
regarding Your failure to implement the salient Features of the Reports
that you commissioned .

 
romanticking 2016-02-01 03:00:14 

In reply to POINT

Simple, there is no talent! POINT is not understanding the point. As much as selectors are to be blamed they can't do anything when they have to pick a team from a pack of jokers.

 
natty_forever 2016-02-01 10:26:13 

In reply to romanticking... and even if there was, does they structure and present "policies" suggest that they can develop talent?

 
POINT 2016-02-01 11:39:01 

In reply to natty_forever

lOOK the standard of Cricket in England is higher than the standard in the Region . So although our U-19 Players did not win the match vs England ,

THEY PROVED THAT THEY DO HAVE TALENT .

As you have correctly assessed , it
is those Players Talents that must be developed to their full potential . This is the point that the Apologists
for the WICBC & the Windwards Cricket
Board love to ignore .

Apparently they love to say that WE
must be satisfied with the Glass being half Full . You are in essence saying , WE want the glass to be full ; and I totally agree with what You have stated .

 
tc1 2016-02-01 12:35:30 

In reply to natty_forever

we are not as talented as in the past and cricket at the community level does not exist

The WIC was never pro-active in the players development, I call on u guys that live in the region to assist with the re development of this sport.

 
POINT 2016-02-01 16:30:45 

In reply to tc1


If n the Region there was a Pro Active
Board ; with Foresight ; Vision & Business Acumen ; the people on the Board would have realized , when
England limited the number of Overseas
Players Playing Cricket in England it
was going to impact negatively in
West Indies Cricket .

It is very true that at that juncture
our Players & Team were the very Best in the World , it would have been very easy then to get financial Sponsors to form a Pro or Semi Pro League in the Region .

The People in the WICBC sat on their Asses and did NOTHING . Many Idiots
in this Forum , love to say that is in the Past , however mistakes made in the Past , if not corrected will
always haunt US .

Obviously had they formed a Pro or Semi Pro league in the mid 1980's it
is very likely that our Players & Team would still be the best in the World .

Let me remind all & Sundry that it is
only 3 years ago that it dawned on the People in the WICBC that they should have a Pro League , at a time when Cricket in the Region is a mere shadow of what it was in the mid 1980's .

Obviously WE are in a climate now
where it is difficult to attract Financial Sponsors . This serious
mistake cannot , and must not be placed on the Players . It squarely
is the fault on those in the Administration of Cricket in the Region .

This is why I will forever insist that there needs to be very serious Structural changes in the governance of Cricket in the Region .

I therefore agree with the latest Report that had 3 members appointed by the WICBC , & 2 Members appointed
by the Regional Governments , that
concluded that all the current Members of the WICBC must be fired .

Please note the fact that the WICBC had 3 Members & the Regional Governments had 2 Members . Obviously
at least one of the 3 Members appointed by the WICBC , came around to the view that regardless of the fact that they were appointed by the
WICBC , those who appointed them must
be fired .

This in my opinion , is a very serious indictment against the WICBC . It members however , are adamantly against the idea that they demit Office . So they are fighting Tooth &
Nail to preserve the 89 year old structure that they inherited from
The Owners of Estates & Businesses in
the Region .

Interestingly , the WICBC has commissioned several Reports regarding its Structure etc , and rejected ALL of those Reports . So then it is reasonable to ask the people in the WICBC :

WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF COMMISSIONING

THESE SEVERAL REPORTS IF YOU WERE

GOING TO IGNORE THEM ????

Perhaps its Resident Apologist in this Forum can answer that Question
or He can get an answer from his Bosses .

 
openning 2016-02-01 18:34:30 

In reply to tc1

It is easy being a Monday morning quarterback, with all the answers after the race.
I for one blame the BCA and it players for not having a world class batsman, since Dessie, I blame the Windwards and Devon Smith for not being a world class opener, I blame the Windwards and the Ivisible man, for not increasing his speed, so he could be a world class bowler.